My Meaningless Thoughts on the Game...

SultanOfSix;1112364 said:
All I can say to this is so what - no offense intended. Even if we're not running well, you still do it. And induced "perception of a threat" is better than no threat at all. Just putting an inexperienced QB back there and firing away is not the answer. It's not even the answer with a veteran QB with a team down by 11 with over 11 minutes left, with the momentum, and moving the football. On the drive where Romo threw that pick on the screen pass to JJ (where he was held), I said a few plays prior, we need to still run the ball. That was bad coaching.

I just felt something bad was going to happen, and it did.

They were playing run force like crazy. If you could survive the rush, the pass was there all night. Too bad the rush was so fierce we didn't realize that until about the middle of the second quarter.
 
Hostile;1112625 said:
I never give anyone "leeway." When a guy plays well, I give him some praise. When a guy plays badly, I criticize him. Once you reach the Pros, leeway goes out the door.

You might want to direct some of that "judgement" towards the coaching staff and the peronnel department-- If the guys on the field aren't up to playing at this level it may not be the players or they might not be the right players to begin with.
 
Hostile;1112299 said:
That is irrelevant in my book. We can't re-write the facts so that we feel better about the outcome. The fact is we were down by 5, got the ball to start the 2nd half, and had a whole 30 minutes of clock left to win, and we went in reverse. let's not sugarcoat it. Let's tell it like it really went down. That isn't too much to ask I think.

From what I've read today it appears to be asking way too much. The Bledsoe hatred has gotten to a point where there's a ton of posters that would rather have lost that game with Romo than won it with Bledsoe, although few would be candid enough to admit that. The INT at the end of the half was bone head, plain and simple. But at 5 down, there was no need to panic, which is what the move to Romo was, period. We saw 3 bone head picks in the 2nd half. Get ready for more. First year QB's usually struggle. The season is probably over.
 
DLCassidy;1112947 said:
From what I've read today it appears to be asking way too much. The Bledsoe hatred has gotten to a point where there's a ton of posters that would rather have lost that game with Romo than won it with Bledsoe, although few would be candid enough to admit that. The INT at the end of the half was bone head, plain and simple. But at 5 down, there was no need to panic, which is what the move to Romo was, period. We saw 3 bone head picks in the 2nd half. Get ready for more. First year QB's usually struggle. The season is probably over.

I agree.

I got the feeling the last couple of week that there are some that would like to see us lose with Bledsoe just so that they can be proven right or they just hate the guy so much.

And to be fair, I would be willing to put up next week's pay that some people wanted Romo to fail as well last night.

I really dont care at this point either way.

Let's get Brian Brohm in the Draft or some other strong QB candidate in the 1st Round in the draft and move on.

- Mike G.
 
MichaelWinicki;1112943 said:
You might want to direct some of that "judgement" towards the coaching staff and the peronnel department-- If the guys on the field aren't up to playing at this level it may not be the players or they might not be the right players to begin with.
I've been doing that for 2 years. Where have you been?
 
Hostile;1112968 said:
I've been doing that for 2 years. Where have you been?

Good question. :)


The fact is Hos this season is over with, like it or not. So the next best thing is to see if Romo can be a long term solution or not. The second next best thing is to start working some of the young o-lineman into the lineup to see if they can play.

It's just another "rebuilding season". No use getting angry about it-- it won't change anything.
 
DLCassidy;1112947 said:
From what I've read today it appears to be asking way too much. The Bledsoe hatred has gotten to a point where there's a ton of posters that would rather have lost that game with Romo than won it with Bledsoe, although few would be candid enough to admit that. The INT at the end of the half was bone head, plain and simple. But at 5 down, there was no need to panic, which is what the move to Romo was, period. We saw 3 bone head picks in the 2nd half. Get ready for more. First year QB's usually struggle. The season is probably over.
Thank you DL. The most honest post I've seen.
 
MichaelWinicki;1112986 said:
Good question. :)


The fact is Hos this season is over with, like it or not. So the next best thing is to see if Romo can be a long term solution or not. The second next best thing is to start working some of the young o-lineman into the lineup to see if they can play.

It's just another "rebuilding season". No use getting angry about it-- it won't change anything.

I dont know if I am ready to concede the season is over just yet. The Gints have a really tough schedule as well as us.

If we can get more out of our running game and play better defense we may be able to scratch out some wins.

- Mike G.
 
Duane;1112161 said:
I really like what I see out of Ware but the rest of our front seven looks pretty pedestrian. Ellis has his moments, James is steady but unspectacular but has Akin done anything all year?

Rich is right, Ayodel was horrible last night. I watched him run right by the rusher on several plays, the most notable was near the end of the game when Jacobs was rushing and they showed it from the on-the-field-cam. He didn't even try to make the tackle as he ran right by Jacobs, completely untouched.
 
MichaelWinicki;1112986 said:
Good question. :)


The fact is Hos this season is over with, like it or not. So the next best thing is to see if Romo can be a long term solution or not. The second next best thing is to start working some of the young o-lineman into the lineup to see if they can play.

It's just another "rebuilding season". No use getting angry about it-- it won't change anything.

I personally would like to give it that 3 game road stretch before I do wholesale changes...changing out QB's may be enough for the next 3 games
 
MichaelWinicki;1112986 said:
Good question. :)


The fact is Hos this season is over with, like it or not. So the next best thing is to see if Romo can be a long term solution or not. The second next best thing is to start working some of the young o-lineman into the lineup to see if they can play.

It's just another "rebuilding season". No use getting angry about it-- it won't change anything.
I'm not angry. I'm bewildered at how 2 sacks and 3 INTs is a reason for "hope."

Have our expectations really sunk that low? Mine haven't.
 
Hostile;1113024 said:
I'm not angry. I'm bewildered at how 2 sacks and 3 INTs is a reason for "hope."

Have our expectations really sunk that low? Mine haven't.


I guess I'm just more patient at this point.


I thought it was a brutal point of the season/game/opponent to insert a new QB.

And then we start out with a pass? Like you said Hos we were only down 5. Where the hell was the running game to help out a new QB? How many rushing attempts did we have in the 2nd half? 4? Come'on Hos. That's not in my opinion the way to ease a guy into the lineup that has only attempted 2 passes in his career. That's just shatty coaching Hos. If you want to hang Romo for that-- so be it. I'm not ready to.
 
MichaelWinicki;1113064 said:
I guess I'm just more patient at this point.


I thought it was a brutal point of the season/game/opponent to insert a new QB.

And then we start out with a pass? Like you said Hos we were only down 5. Where the hell was the running game to help out a new QB? How many rushing attempts did we have in the 2nd half? 4? Come'on Hos. That's not in my opinion the way to ease a guy into the lineup that has only attempted 2 passes in his career. That's just shatty coaching Hos. If you want to hang Romo for that-- so be it. I'm not ready to.
Who's hanging him? I'm just saying don't whitewash it. It wouldn't have mattered any more to me if that pass was the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 99th play of that drive. It was horrid. I can't blame Parcells for the throw. The timing of the play call, sure. But the throw itself? How is that on Parcells?

Now, on to the timing of giving him his shot. I've never seen a QB more set up to be a hero. Not in my life. I'm not joking. Never seen it.

A whole half of football, the ball first, and down by less than a TD is "gold Jerry, gold." Forget that nonsense about the opponent. You couldn't sell me that if I was doing Nyquil shooters.

Just being honest.
 
Hostile;1113003 said:
Thank you DL. The most honest post I've seen.

sorry but I don't think there was anything "honest" about that post... nor do I think it is "hatred" of Bledsoe... I think it is realization that Bledsoe is not the answer and that moving away from Bledsoe and onto Romo should be the logical and rational choice for those that wish to see us get eventually back into the superbowl... this had nothing to do with panic per say as much as it was Bledsoe finally playing himself out of the starting position and deservedly so...Bill was more than patient enough...

the only one's to truly blame in this matter are both Bill and Bledsoe...certainly not those mean ole fans that couldn't stand to see Bledsoe being...well Bledsoe anymore....

I think the fans needed hope and Romo provided that...I also think the team needed it and Romo did it for them also...

Romo made bad decisions/throws but Bledsoe has done the same...

like it or not there is gonna be a learning curve coming off the bench especially after F O U R years there...mistakes are to be expected...repeat mistakes however are not.... but the only real whitewashing that has been going on with most fans is hope not "hate"

jmho
 
Capt.Gut;1112314 said:
He made that bad throw. My point was, that he had to play catch up the whole time and due to that he changed his approach to the game. He took some chances he eventually would have not taken, if we were playing with the lead.

I don't agree, 5 points down to start the second half is not "playing catch up time", you methodically march down the field, taking what the defense gives you, I didn't like the playcall, let Romo at least hand off once, but that does not excuse the fact that he constantly tries to thread the needle, he got picked 3 times and there were at least 3 other throws that could/should have been, I think this will be a long season, we'll be on the edge of our seats, but end up on the losing end more often than naught because Romo's arm isn't as strong as he thinks. Pray to God I'm wrong.
 
Zaxor;1113096 said:
sorry but I don't think there was anything "honest" about that post... nor do I think it is "hatred" of Bledsoe... I think it is realization that Bledsoe is not the answer and that moving away from Bledsoe and onto Romo should be the logical and rational choice for those that wish to see us get eventually back into the superbowl... this had nothing to do with panic per say as much as it was Bledsoe finally playing himself out of the starting position and deservedly so...Bill was more than patient enough...

the only one's to truly blame in this matter are both Bill and Bledsoe...certainly not those mean ole fans that couldn't stand to see Bledsoe being...well Bledsoe anymore....

I think the fans needed hope and Romo provided that...I also think the team needed it and Romo did it for them also...

Romo made bad decisions/throws but Bledsoe has done the same...

like it or not there is gonna be a learning curve coming off the bench especially after F O U R years there...mistakes are to be expected...repeat mistakes however are not.... but the only real whitewashing that has been going on with most fans is hope not "hate"

jmho
We can agree to disagree. I think he was dead on with every word.
 
Hostile;1113089 said:
Now, on to the timing of giving him his shot. I've never seen a QB more set up to be a hero. Not in my life. I'm not joking. Never seen it.
If your job were to write a novel, sure, you write it just that way. It would make a great story. Maybe even a movie. Romo the hero.

But if the job is to prepare an inexperienced QB to take over, another moment makes more sense (e.g., Titans or Texans). Taking the 1st string snaps during practice would be a good idea too. Less dramatic, more pragmatic.
 
Hostile;1113089 said:
Who's hanging him? I'm just saying don't whitewash it. It wouldn't have mattered any more to me if that pass was the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 99th play of that drive. It was horrid. I can't blame Parcells for the throw. The timing of the play call, sure. But the throw itself? How is that on Parcells?

Now, on to the timing of giving him his shot. I've never seen a QB more set up to be a hero. Not in my life. I'm not joking. Never seen it.

A whole half of football, the ball first, and down by less than a TD is "gold Jerry, gold." Forget that nonsense about the opponent. You couldn't sell me that if I was doing Nyquil shooters.

Just being honest.


Set up to be a "hero"?

I look at it the total opposite... I thought it was a horrible position to put a new QB in-- simply horrid.

And then it was compounded by having him attempt about 6 passes for every rushing attempt-- again simply horrid.

Did Romo make some stupid throws? You bet. But I'm willing to give him the rest of the season to straighten things out. I guess you aren't. That's OK too. Maybe you can slap in a movie during the Cowboy games so you can keep your blood pressure in check. ;)
 
ZeroClub;1113119 said:
If your job were to write a novel, sure, you write it just that way. It would make a great story. Maybe even a movie. Romo the hero.

But if the job is to prepare an inexperienced QB to take over, another moment makes more sense (e.g., Titans or Texans). Taking the 1st string snaps during practice would be a good idea too. Less dramatic, more pragmatic.
You know what? In that scenario start him this game. I'm not even talking about that.

Chance to be the hero is about bringing your team back, not taking over with a clean slate.
 
MichaelWinicki;1113122 said:
Set up to be a "hero"?

I look at it the total opposite... I thought it was a horrible position to put a new QB in-- simply horrid.

And then it was compounded by having him attempt about 6 passes for every rushing attempt-- again simply horrid.

Did Romo make some stupid throws? You bet. But I'm willing to give him the rest of the season to straighten things out. I guess you aren't. That's OK too. Maybe you can slap in a movie during the Cowboy games so you can keep your blood pressure in check. ;)
If I was a backup QB wanting my shot, that was the best it will ever get.

Again, who is not giving Romo the rest of the season? I'm simply saying don't whitewash it. Maybe it would help to explain what whitewash is? I don't know any other way to make it any clearer, but perhaps explaining that would help.
 

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