My Take on Dez

[WillieBeamen]

Nah just noticed a lot of morons reside in NY. nothing personal just an observation

What an ignorant take.

So when someone doesnt share your opinion, it makes them a "moron"?

 

[noshame]

I would like to know what kind of relationship Linehan and Dez have.

Somehow I get the feeling if it wasn't for Jerry, Dez wouldn't even be a major part of this offense

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[blumayne38]

This is a serious post?

 

[blumayne38]

Dak dosent have the same accuracy and touch Romo does, only real thing that's different..imo

 

[blumayne38]

Dez is really good. Only Romo knows how to make him look truly elite.

You have to pinpoint accurate with back-shoulder and high-point throws to utilize Dez' ability to catch balls in traffic. Otherwise, he's a pretty easy cover for cornerbacks.

He's too slow, and his routes are too poor, to use like a typical top receiver.

Lol no way you are serious

 

[blumayne38]

Dez an easy cover? LOL that is just...wow...

 

[zrinkill]

I have a feeling this is a poorly disguised Romo over Dak thread.

 

[blumayne38]

I have a feeling this is a poorly disguised Romo over Dak thread.

As long as zeke is the RB, who cares who's throwing?

 

[Verdict]

I read somewhere that Dez and Williams are 2 of the top 3 wr that run the most "go" routes, these are clear out routes for the underneath passing game, they also will tire your wrs making them less effective.

I still don't understand why they don't run more crossing routes against the man/over coverage. Running Dez on crossing routes against this coverage would make it ineffective. Against the man/over coverage the stop routes, go routes, double moves get jumped by the cb because he has no fear of getting beat deep because of the safety help over the top. When you see Norman sticking close to Dez this is why.

I was at the game last week and Dez drew man/over coverage 75% of the time (you can't really see this on tv), if the coaching staff know this in advance then they should have something to counter that.

I think the coaching staff understands that if 2 defenders are on Dez then that means that someone else has man coverage and they are satisfied with that but Brown, Green, and Jones must see the same coverage but their OC find ways to get them involved.

You want to see your coaches put their players in a position to succeed, and that includes Dez. I agree that go routes are lower percentage routes (usually, unless the receiver is wide open) but the player actually has to properly run the route, in the right place, at the right time, and properly adjust their route tree according to leverage, etc. I really have my doubts whether Dez can consistently do any of that.

All three of the guys you have referred to in your post are much better route runners than Dez, far more elusive, get better separation and have more short area quickness and speed than Dez. One could argue that we aren't doing enough to help Dez gain separation, and that might actually be accurate, but maybe Dez isn't consistent enough running his routes to enable the coaches to get him the looks you are referring to.

Our coaches do not seem to be idiots, contrary to popular opinion of some posters. I agree that their play calling can be suspect at times, but I doubt they have failed to consider options to get Dez the ball since they are paying him 70 million smokes.

 

[erod]

Dez an easy cover? LOL that is just...wow...

He gets zero separation. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

 

[zrinkill]

As long as zeke is the RB, who cares who's throwing?

I do ........ I want the guy who is careful with the ball and does not average 2 or 3 turnovers a game.

Thats the differance in 12 -2 compared to the 8-6 or 9-5 that we usually are this time of year.

 

[Verdict]

Don't stop there. You can make cases for:

Amari Cooper
DeAndre Hopkins
Jordy Nelson
Julian Edelman
TY Hilton
Steve Smith (still)
Demarius Thomas
Jarvis Landry
Larry Fitzgerald

Very good list. I think you could add several more to that list including Steve Smith, Sammy Watkins, Golden Tate, and you might add a couple of Commanders receivers to that list as well.

Dez can come up big at times and disappear at others. If you are objective about it there are a lot of great receivers these days in the NFL. Dez is falling down that list at an increasing rate. If he doesn't become dominant, and I mean dominant, I would make him take a pay cut or ship him off to another team for draft picks.

 

[blumayne38]

You want to see your coaches put their players in a position to succeed, and that includes Dez. I agree that go routes are lower percentage routes (usually, unless the receiver is wide open) but the player actually has to properly run the route, in the right place, at the right time, and properly adjust their route tree according to leverage, etc. I really have my doubts whether Dez can consistently do any of that.

All three of the guys you have referred to in your post are much better route runners than Dez, far more elusive, get better separation and have more short area quickness and speed than Dez. One could argue that we aren't doing enough to help Dez gain separation, and that might actually be accurate, but maybe Dez isn't consistent enough running his routes to enable the coaches to get him the looks you are referring to.

Our coaches do not seem to be idiots, contrary to popular opinion of some posters. I agree that their play calling can be suspect at times, but I doubt they have failed to consider options to get Dez the ball since they are paying him 70 million smokes.

I just think dallas is utilizing the whOle offense not just dez...dosent mean he is slipping or he should be called out as a WR. Other players respect him as one of the best in the NFL because he is. We as in dallas just have alot of weapons and a QB that takes what's given...nothing broKen here I agree with you

 

[blumayne38]

I do ........ I want the guy who is careful with the ball and does not average 2 or 3 turnovers a game.

Thats the differance in 12 -2 compared to the 8-6 or 9-5 that we usually are this time of year.

I dont sanchez could be in there long as #21 running the rock we good

 

[dallasdave]

 

[Proof]

What an ignorant take.

So when someone doesnt share your opinion, it makes them a "moron"?

You know I hadn't really thought of it, but now that you mention it there's a pretty high correlation.

 

[Proof]

But no, seriously shouldn't have said that and I apologize. If you believe Mike Evans is so much better than Dez that it's not even close, I blanked out on how to respond.

 

[blumayne38]

He gets zero separation. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

I would believe you, if I hadn't been there when we beat the Eagles in OT this year and saw with my own eyes Dez running rampid in the secondary while dak continued to look him off and dump it down...basically looking dez down till he took a safety or linebacker with him and then immediately dump it off the beastly or Witten...I know what I saw and nolan Caroll should send his check that week to dak for not embarrassing him...so when you say that stuff I have no idea what you are talking about..btw I'm not trashing dak just saying what I saw

 

[birdwells1]

You want to see your coaches put their players in a position to succeed, and that includes Dez. I agree that go routes are lower percentage routes (usually, unless the receiver is wide open) but the player actually has to properly run the route, in the right place, at the right time, and properly adjust their route tree according to leverage, etc. I really have my doubts whether Dez can consistently do any of that.

All three of the guys you have referred to in your post are much better route runners than Dez, far more elusive, get better separation and have more short area quickness and speed than Dez. One could argue that we aren't doing enough to help Dez gain separation, and that might actually be accurate, but maybe Dez isn't consistent enough running his routes to enable the coaches to get him the looks you are referring to.

Our coaches do not seem to be idiots, contrary to popular opinion of some posters. I agree that their play calling can be suspect at times, but I doubt they have failed to consider options to get Dez the ball since they are paying him 70 million smokes.

Garrett's offense is predicated on 1 wr getting doubled almost every play so they don't mind using Dez as a decoy to run off 2 defenders. The problem with that is that a decoys numbers is never as good as the other wrs in the league that coaches scheme to get the ball to them.

I went to last weeks game and I also went to the Colts game in 2014, in that Colts game I was able to tell my son when Dez was going to get the ball it was when the safety was not over the top but that was when Romo was qbing. It got to where my son, who was 10yo would tell me when he was going to get targeted just by looking at the safety.

In this last game Dez was singled and the ball still didn't come his way, look this is not to point fingers at Prescott because he's still just a rookie but it's just certain things that Romo knows that it will take Dak time to learn.