My take on Drew Henson. Why the hell not, right?

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Back to Rack - when does Henson start to "get it" and can he surpass Bledsoe? Or is that gap something he can never close?

Can he surpass Romo when Romo is getting the precious playing time? My money is on Henson going to NFLE like Chad and getting reps. That might pay off in 2007/2008? Can't see him majically winning staarting job next year.
 

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Nors said:
My money is on Henson going to NFLE like Chad and getting reps. That might pay off in 2007/2008? Can't see him majically winning staarting job next year.
So what is wrong with that? You say that like it is a bad thing. Just wondering.
 

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Its a good thing. If we can get him ready to start in the NFL by 2007/2008 We are golden.

Hopefully we have another Lombardi by then!
 

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Nors said:
Back to Rack - when does Henson start to "get it" and can he surpass Bledsoe? Or is that gap something he can never close?

Can he surpass Romo when Romo is getting the precious playing time? My money is on Henson going to NFLE like Chad and getting reps. That might pay off in 2007/2008? Can't see him majically winning staarting job next year.

Well obviously we can give Henson THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME we gave Romo? Right? :rolleyes:

And Romo is not even starting, much less starting a regular season game. :D
 

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Fletch said:
Well obviously we can give Henson THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME we gave Romo? Right? :rolleyes:

And Romo is not even starting, much less starting a regular season game. :D



Exactly.


How much time can we give Henson? He's signed for 8 years. Since he was off for 3 years I'd give him at least 4 seasons. This will be his second. He looks about the same as Romo looked last year, so it's not far fetched to believe he can make the same kind of improvement Romo has made this year. Why is it ok to give Romo the extra time, but not Henson? Shouldn't they get an equal amount of time?

Oh, unless you have an agenda of course.
 

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At some point Henson needs to surpass Romo/Bledsoe. The gap widened year two, he's losing ground.

BP doing the right thing bringing him on slow. He may be ready in 07/08.
 

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Nors said:
At some point Henson needs to surpass Romo/Bledsoe. The gap widened year two, he's losing ground.

BP doing the right thing bringing him on slow. He may be ready in 07/08.

How is Henson losing ground? He has time. It is a luxury to have Bledsoe as the starter with a 3 year backup in Romo.
 

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Quincy Carter had just as much, if not more, physical talent. He had a great arm and was probably faster than Henson. Just thought I'd point that out.

Hutch is a #3 and Quincy is not even working.



It never ends. Henson can't even go through his read progressions. But he's going to win a Super Bowl, right?

:jerk:



It's not about interceptions with Drew Henson, it's about him being absolutely lost at the QB position. He's lost.



Akili Smith had the "talent of a first rounder" too. This has been the thing people site all the time. He sure doesn't look like a first round talent.

And if he really does have first round talent, how come he can't close the gap just a little bit on an UDFA with only a year more experience in the NFL?

Ever think of that?

I'd think if you were a 'first round talent' you could easily gain some ground on an UDFA.

If he's got first round talent, he's hiding it somewhere. Because you sure can't see it.
Who can't see it? Obviously some here DO see potential and possible first round talent in Henson. Stop and think for a bit, do you think if you would put down the Romo banner for a second and take off you blinders that you just might see somthing in Henson. Romo is currently doing better than Henson and just about everyone here is agreeing with that. Anytime somthing good or encouraging is said of Henson, you take it as a personal slam against Romo. Try enjoying the fact that your player is doing well, and realize that it's a good thing we might have a future threat on the team. Your posts might not be so annoying then.
 

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Rack said:
That proves you aren't getting what I'm talking about. The plays called has NOTHING to do with it.





YOu didn't start a flame war, but you DID start a Henson/Romo war. Eventhough this thread had not a single thing to do with Romo or the QB depth chart.


Thanks for ruining yet another thread, Banned. Welcome to my ever growing Ignore list as well. I suggest others put banned there too since all he does is instigate arguments and never had anything constructive to say.

I really hate to do that.... but I did it anyway as his opinions are totally worthless
 

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How soon they forget that last year at this time they tinkered with Romo's mechanics and Parcells fielded a question at every PC up to the last preseason game about when are we cutting the struggling Romo to bring in a vet.

1-800-dial-a QB ring a bell?

What's the definition of hypocrite, again?:D
 

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Rack said:
I'll make this short and simple.


IMO, regardless of what has been reported and how he has actually looked, Drew Henson has improved.


I've been believing this for quite some time, but couldn't think of a way to explain it.


But here's the best I could come up with...

Drew Henson last year was at a stage comparable to taking basic math. He had a decent understanding of what he was being asked to do.


This year he's moved up to College Algebra. A lot of people struggle when they first start taking College ALgebra, but after doing a few hundred equations, they start to get it, and it gets much easier.

For another words, Drew is struggling cuz he's moved up a lvl in his development. He's actually TRYING to do the more difficult things now (such as fine tuning his throwing motion and reading defenses). Once he gets a good grip on "College Algebra" he'll move up to calculus (or whatever, you get the point) and he'll struggle again, and so on and so forth.


It's kind of like being a QB and going from highschool to college. The playbook is bigger and the defense more complicated. But with Henson it's more advanced cuz he sat out 3+ years. He's getting it, it's just taking a bit longer due to the layoff. But we signed him long term for a reason.


Hope that made sense.

Doesn't make any difference whether he improves or not. If he did improve, it would be still too little. All of the other second year qb's probably improved too, so would the college sophmores,juniors and seniors. But because they were playing regularly with no layoffs, their improvement would exponentially better than his. You see, his layoff put him significantly behind them and so he might be improving at a snails pace, they might be improving by leaps and bounds. Think about it, he and Romo are about the same age, yet he played significantly less than Romo, but at a bigger school. Is he gaining on Romo or is Romo pulling farther ahead him. Answer. Romo is pulling farther ahead. And Romo will be further ahead next year, because he will probably play some. Romo has been playing football for 6+ consecutive years. He has been steadily building on his skill set, whereas Henson suspended his own progress by playing baseball for 3 years, thus retarding his own growth. Why Kyle Orton and Charlie Frye and Alex Smith,Jason Campbell and Aaron Rodgers are all ahead of him in rediness to play. For that matter, Matt Leinhart,Omar Jacobs and Reggie McNeal are all three ahead of Henson in rediness.
 

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Fletch said:
Hate to be rather blunt. But that is the very reason why you are posting in here rather than coaching or scouting. :cool:


And who do coach or scout for.
 

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JDSmith said:
Sounds like a QB who's developing to me. But I'm not of the school that figures the guy has to be a pro bowl player his first few weeks or he's a bust.

It's funny how certain people had no problem with Romo developing over the past 3 years, but don't seem to want to give Henson even 2 seasons to grow. Even though Romo hasn't developed into a starter yet.

Romo didn't have to have his mechanics overhauled either. He's building on what he's learned over the last 6+ consecutive years of playing football, not relearning football.
 

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kartr said:
Romo didn't have to have his mechanics overhauled either. He's building on what he's learned over the last 6+ consecutive years of playing football, not relearning football.

Romo did have his mechanics changed and it was reported on the team website. It is also not uncommon for college QB's to have certain aspect of their passing mechanics changed even David Carr here in Houston that was the 1st thing they did because he had to much of a sidearm delivery. Your other post about these college QB being ahead of Henson is a complete Joke
 

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kartr said:
Romo didn't have to have his mechanics overhauled either. He's building on what he's learned over the last 6+ consecutive years of playing football, not relearning football.

Not true, but then again when has the truth ever been your strong suit?

QBs coach Lee was quoted this week that they changed Romo's mechanics last year, just like they did to Henson's this year.

Romo was displaying so much growth in camp and preseason that Parcells was asked at every PC right up to the last preseason game last year when Romo was going to get cut and a vet brought in.
 

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Romo did have his mechanics changed and it was reported on the team website. It is also not uncommon for college QB's to have certain aspect of their passing mechanics changed even David Carr here in Houston that was the 1st thing they did because he had to much of a sidearm delivery. Your other post about these college QB being ahead of Henson is a complete Joke

But Carr is at least able to get in a game. Your manlove for Henson is a joke. The other college qbs I mentioned will get drafted higher than a 3rd, which is what we gave for him and they will start before he does too.
 

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blindzebra said:
Not true, but then again when has the truth ever been your strong suit?

QBs coach Lee was quoted this week that they changed Romo's mechanics last year, just like they did to Henson's this year.

Romo was displaying so much growth in camp and preseason that Parcells was asked at every PC right up to the last preseason game last year when Romo was going to get cut and a vet brought in.

I guess you don't understand that there is a difference between changed and overhauled.
 

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I guess you don't understand that there is a difference between changed and overhauled.

Lee's exact words were we ADJUSTED Romo's motion last year just like we did with Henson's this year.

Like I said, there is truth and then there is your posts.
 

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"HENSON IS JUST NOT READY"

Lets get on with getting Bledsoe and Romo ready for season.
 
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