My take on Drew Henson. Why the hell not, right?

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Banned_n_austin said:
I crave respect. I crave acceptence among the board. :lmao2: [/sarcasm]

But regardless of your level of respect for me, I think you bring up a very good point here.

Hi Banned. I didn't mean to come off sounding as if I don't have respect for you and your posts. Actually, that's why I asked you to chime in because I don't totally disagree with everything you are saying in this particular thread.
 

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blindzebra said:
Funny, for someone who just ignores his posts you replied to him FIVE TIMES in this thread.

:lmao2: Now that's some accurate posting.:lmao:

Generally speaking. In all honesty, I've got nothing against anyone on this board. Not even you Blind.

But if I did, I wouldn't give them the time of day. Typically, I don't respond much to Fletch. His avatar is too big for my taste ... :)

My point was that if you don't likes someone's posts, don't respond. I know these adult concepts are hard for you to understand, but I suspect most know what I'm trying to get at.

And I'll ask you again ... Do you have anything to say about football ...

Oh nevermind ... that's a stupid question.

You're too busy with the winkies and what not ...

Carry on.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
Well to get back on topic. In what ways do you think that the coaching staff has heightened Henson's learning curve.

The throwing mechanics are obvious and you can tell they are not second nature quite yet.

That old throwing motion that he had been using is the same that he had been using in baseball and perhaps even before so youre taking 4+ years of conditioning and attempting to retrain it in 8 months. I think its quite fair to expect at least a years time for him to become fully comfortable. This is all obvious tho.

The mental aspect is quite different. Im usre last year they were dumbing down the offense similar to how they handled Carter insomuch only having him read half the field or the outside.

I really cannot say that I would know how the coaches are having Henson go through his progressions or how they have been expanding on it.

I have heard several reports saying that Henson does do very well in 7 on 7's. So that he means his brain is at the point where it can process the mechanics and reads but then when you add a pass rush he does seem to have informational overload as he has to concern with the blitz and adjustments to reads that entails as well as having to concern with pocket prescence.

I still see the work ethic, mental toughness and professionalism he has had all along so there is still a light at the end of the tunnel its just to the point if he can put his mechanics and reads together while facing a pass rush.

None of this is an excuse its just a reasonable observation IMO. Commenting on his thumb injury is an excuse. But I am very firm in my belief that Henson's development is independent of any other QBs on the roster but it appears some people dont get that.

You're alright in my book, Fuzzy.

I think you were able to say what Rack was unable to. I don't agree about his mechanics. They look baseball-like to me. But I get what you're saying about 7-7 drills etc.

(must be an Austin thing)
 

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Rack, good point. I think Henson is a little lost now for some of the reasons you mentioned. There may be others. I hope he can develop like the coaches would like. Hopefully he'll get it between now and then.
 

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What a surprise. Another QB thread. :eek:



My take on Henson.

A QB with alota talent. Athletic big and very strong. Mobile a rocket arm and is very smart. That is all good but he aint got the mental part of the game yet. He is a hard worker that is for sure.

He has the talent to be a top QB in the NFL but he aint ready to start yet. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will but not now.
 

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I agree Rack. If and when Henson gets used to the "speed of the game", watch out. It will just click.
 

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SultanOfSix said:
I agree Rack. If and when Henson gets used to the "speed of the game", watch out. It will just click.


I agree with you. Tom Brady also had alota good things to say about Henson and him being a good player in the NFL.


Once he gets things and also after he had time to rest from those 5000+ throws he will be a very good QB and will learn very fast. THere have been a few times in the preseason games where he looked like things were clicking. But then other times he looked awful.

I like how Romo has come along but when things come together for Henson then Henson will be the man here.
 

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Rack - nice analogy

He's rusty and struggling with the speed of the game. I think behind the Confident front he shows. I s a very insecure, shattered person who lacks confidence. Nothing but a lot of failure on his resume. Will it start clicking year #3? We shall see!
 

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Rack said:
Thanks for ruining yet another thread, Banned. Welcome to my ever growing Ignore list as well. I suggest others put banned there too since all he does is instigate arguments and never had anything constructive to say.

He is arguing with 5 or 6 different people at the same time. He completely hijacked what should of been a well thought out discussion about Henson and added nothing to the argument worth reading. I can't believe I just read through 8 pages of this crap. I really liked the original topic but 90% of the responses were Banned's bantering with other members. I think I will join you in ignoring Banned and thank you for trying to start a very worthwhile discussion. :)
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
Do me a favor. Put me on your ignore list and keep me there. Anyone else who has a problem with me, do the same.

We could never do that. We want you on that wall.....we need you on that wall.

The ignore list is the EASY way out.
 

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cml750 said:
He is arguing with 5 or 6 different people at the same time. He completely hijacked what should of been a well thought out discussion about Henson and added nothing to the argument worth reading. I can't believe I just read through 8 pages of this crap. I really liked the original topic but 90% of the responses were Banned's bantering with other members. I think I will join you in ignoring Banned and thank you for trying to start a very worthwhile discussion. :)


Thank you. It's really that easy. Ignore me. And anyone else who has a problem with it.

If I'm not mistaken, the ignore option is right under "User CP".

Have a nice day fellas .... and jock sniffers alike. :)
 

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Oddly enough, Jerry put it best with respect to Henson:

“It is not a disappointment. It’s more of a reality,” Jones said. “Quarterbacks are developed and it can take some time.”
 

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Nors said:
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18830&page=2&pp=15&highlight=drew+henson

Some interesting Henson thoughts by BZ last winter. He missed option B. Henson is NOT close to ready. At some point he has to make progress. Or...........

Gee, I seemed to be saying Henson needed all the reps he could get, what was I wrong about again?

FYI, Nors you catch this Q&A from today's PC?

Does the 3-4 scheme produce more turnovers?

No. I wouldn’t say that. If you got good players in the scheme, that’s what produces turnovers.

Now who was saying those words for 18 months, me or you?:lmao2:
 

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Rack said:
I'll make this short and simple.


IMO, regardless of what has been reported and how he has actually looked, Drew Henson has improved.


I've been believing this for quite some time, but couldn't think of a way to explain it.


But here's the best I could come up with...

Drew Henson last year was at a stage comparable to taking basic math. He had a decent understanding of what he was being asked to do.


This year he's moved up to College Algebra. A lot of people struggle when they first start taking College ALgebra, but after doing a few hundred equations, they start to get it, and it gets much easier.

For another words, Drew is struggling cuz he's moved up a lvl in his development. He's actually TRYING to do the more difficult things now (such as fine tuning his throwing motion and reading defenses). Once he gets a good grip on "College Algebra" he'll move up to calculus (or whatever, you get the point) and he'll struggle again, and so on and so forth.


It's kind of like being a QB and going from highschool to college. The playbook is bigger and the defense more complicated. But with Henson it's more advanced cuz he sat out 3+ years. He's getting it, it's just taking a bit longer due to the layoff. But we signed him long term for a reason.


Hope that made sense.
Rack, I want to begin by commending you on a well thought out interesting topic. Had I not been at work and had the thread not been hijacked I think this very well might have been one of the more enjoyable football discussions about QBs we've had in a long time.

There are a couple of people on this forum who simply cannot stand anything positive being said about Drew Henson, even if it makes sense. What you've said here makes good sense.

I personally want to apologize to you for the turn this thread took from this original post. I feel some of it is most definitely my fault. I look back to my report from the AZ game and ever since that thread it has been very ugly in here. My apologies. I never meant for it to go this far.

Great post. I really enjoyed it because it is about football as opposed to petty jealousy.
 

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Funny - he did change the scheme.....

Coaching, Players, Scheming/gameplanning. This isn't like pickup basketball game.....

It all matters! Take Roy - we are now putting him in a better scheme to use his talents. We have better talent on D. Agree there. Wait till Fergi and Spears kick in. Burnett and Ware edge LB's. Canty and Rat in rotation!

Life is good!
 
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