My take on Henson's game today

[Qwickdraw]

So I guess that means that you feel the "project" of developing a QB has failed with Drew Henson, even though he hasnt had his fair share of snaps in the NFL?

Just curious what you base that on?

That is exactly what I believe.
At least for us... someone else will give it a try.

It's just my opinion but I don't see IT. Gotta say I agree with Parcells on this one.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Bwahahaha you are such a nut

Yeah, I get that from my wife too

 

[RCowboyFan]

That is exactly what I believe.
At least for us... someone else will give it a try.

It's just my opinion but I don't see IT. Gotta say I agree with Parcells on this one.

And what was that? What is IT that Parcells didn't see in Henson? Or you just pulling stuff out of air now?

 

[Qwickdraw]

And what was that? What is IT that Parcells didn't see in Henson? Or you just pulling stuff out of air now?

Gee let me see...

"He's not ready."

or the fact that he's been here 2 years and only started 1 game.
A game in which he got yanked at halftime.

Or the fact that Romo was the #2 QB on the depth chart for the majority of last season.

Or the fact that BP wouldn't even play him during garbage time.


"IT" being the ability to play football on the pro level successfully.

 

[rcaldw]

Gee let me see...

"He's not ready."

or the fact that he's been here 2 years and only started 1 game.
A game in which he got yanked at halftime.

Or the fact that Romo was the #2 QB on the depth chart for the majority of last season.

Or the fact that BP wouldn't even play him during garbage time.


"IT" being the ability to play football on the pro level successfully.

This stuff is so regular, so predictable and so empty.

LETS SEE:

Romo has been here even longer and has started ZERO GAMES. He didn't even have the opportunity to be yanked.
Romo was 2nd team, which meant what? He held for kicks. Big woopy.
Romo was the one in line to play in the garbage time. Did he? Has he even ATTEMPTED one pass in a real NFL game? No.

Every argument you make against Henson can also be made against Romo, but I'm guessing you are a Romo supporter.

Henson is getting better, you just don't WANT to see it, therefore you won't. Will it finally amount to anything? I have no idea. He may NEVER be a starter in the NFL. But to say he isn't showing some improvement is just to be stubborn or blind.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Gee let me see...

"He's not ready."

or the fact that he's been here 2 years and only started 1 game.
A game in which he got yanked at halftime.

Or the fact that Romo was the #2 QB on the depth chart for the majority of last season.

Or the fact that BP wouldn't even play him during garbage time.


"IT" being the ability to play football on the pro level successfully.

Ok, so Romo has seen playing time, now counting four years? And that is being ready, especially since he was beat by a guy who came from baseball, while Romo was in his second year? Oh yeah, that proves he has IT!

Romo was the backup and he didn't get garbage time, so where does that put him? This is really a lame argument.

Lots of QBs play years in NFL and still aren't proven players. How the heck do you make a claim you already know that, when Henson hasn't played one Full season? So you know for sure say Phillip Rivers will be a success or the heck Eli Manning will have successful career in NFL?

Lastly Parcells said he wasn't ready last year. This is year is totally different. in 2004 that was Tony Romo for most part in Henson's position. 2006 will show how far Henson is or Romo is, since both should be close enough in play book wise etc.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I didn't get a chance to watch all the replay last night, so I watched the video link this morning.

To me there are positives and negatives as there are in any player's performance.

Negatives:

As I've stated before, I'm an unabashed Henson supporter, but there are parts of his game that concern me. One of the main areas is his ability to be consistently accurate in his throws. The reason is he now consistently resorts to an almost sidearm throwing motion on many throws. The ball has a tendency to sail on him as a result of his delivery. The first throw he made you see the ball rising as it reaches the WR. The WR made a good catch but it was a high throw.
But the play that bothered me was a throw he made very early in the game at 9:47 of the first quarter. He's got a defender in his line of sight and instead of throwing the ball over the defender into the open area where the receiver can make an easy catch in the flat, Henson instinctively decides to try and sidearm the ball around the defender, thus making it a very difficult angle for the throw and the pass was incomplete. That is an area of his game I wish could be worked out, but unfortunately I believe it's engrained in him.

Positives:

He continues to look much more comfortable playing the position.
I'm starting to see the athleticism and the strong zip on his throws that he must have shown when he was at Michigan.
I really like his ability to move in the pocket and make plays. His style of play is the closest I've seen to the style Elway used to play with. I'm not saying he's Elway, I'm just comparing styles of play.

He also had several throws that were lasers and were big-time throws. The pass to Zuriel Smith was as good a throw as a pro QB can make.
From reading some of the comments about his "rainbow" long throws, I thought I would be disappointed in those throws. Frankly, those throws weren't near as bad as some posters made them sound. In fact, the long throw he completed down-field to Starling was a very good, accurate long throw he made after rolling out to his right and then setting his feet. You can criticize that throw all you want but I see those EXACT same type of throws every Sunday. For those who think that throw was a "duck", go back and look at the 2 long throws Brady made down the field on us a couple of years ago in that Sunday night game that drew pass interference calls and you will see the exact same throw.



All in all, Henson had some bad and some good. If I'm guessing, (and I take into account how desperately Jerry wants Henson to succeed), I say that if Henson continues this pace, Jerry will believe that with Bledsoe being able to play 2-3 more years, Henson is showing enough progress and he will not pull the plug on him.
Don't forget, there was a report last year from one of the Dallas beat writers that said due to his time in baseball, our scouts viewed Henson as they would a player JUST finishing his college career.

So far, in my view, the NFLE time is a positive for Henson.

 

[burmafrd]

rainbows are too dangerous in the NFL due to the speed of the backs.
I went back and looked at those two passes again and they very nearly had punt like hang time. Just because you can get away with it now and then means nothing. Neither of those two passes are a credit to Henson.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

rainbows are too dangerous in the NFL due to the speed of the backs.
I went back and looked at those two passes again and they very nearly had punt like hang time. Just because you can get away with it now and then means nothing. Neither of those two passes are a credit to Henson.

That long, come back throw where the WR slows down and makes the long catch happens every week in the NFL.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

I gotta tell ya... I haven't been one of the biggest Henson backers, but I was happy with the results of this game. He might not have thrown for more yards, but I did like that he threw down the field and he threw a TD. I wasn't happy about the two turnovers. More games like this and I can tolerate beinga little more patient.

 

[Funxva]

Question,

I saw that chang was injured. How bad is it?

 

[RCowboyFan]

But the play that bothered me was a throw he made very early in the game at 9:47 of the first quarter. He's got a defender in his line of sight and instead of throwing the ball over the defender into the open area where the receiver can make an easy catch in the flat, Henson instinctively decides to try and sidearm the ball around the defender, thus making it a very difficult angle for the throw and the pass was incomplete. That is an area of his game I wish could be worked out, but unfortunately I believe it's engrained in him.

Personally, I think that throw was made the way it should have been made, since if you go back and see it, I think Defender was on him and ready to jump if he tried to throw over him, if it is the same pass I thinking about when he rolled to his right. But I do agree, he has the 3/4 delivery most of the time except when he goes deep seems like.

Positives:


I really like his ability to move in the pocket and make plays. His style of play is the closest I've seen to the style Elway used to play with. I'm not saying he's Elway, I'm just comparing styles of play.

.

And thats who he was always being compared to in Michigan, but somehow I never felt that way. I always thought, in college anyway, that he kind of reminded me of Aikman, not because of his play really, but his demeanor etc.

But last game and this game, he made same moves to escape pressure that Elway was famous for. The Dip of his shoulder and then spin away move, that Elway just so damn good at.

Having said that he has to progress still on his long throws. Thats where I am not seeing the Henson of the old yet. Rest of the throws, short and Intermidiate variety, I think he is getting pretty close to it, with more play time, I think he will be pretty darn good. I think with the new players there etc I doubt he will be instinctive, as he would be or should be here back in Dallas. I doubt any QB going to NFLE is going to be that way anyway, with so much turnover over there, even if a QB went to same team two consecutive years.

 

[Doomsday101]

Like any QB Henson is going to have his good days and bad days and how he rebounds from them and learns from mistakes is part of the process. After all I would think most learn more from their mistakes than their successes.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Like any QB Henson is going to have his good days and bad days and how he rebounds from them and learns from mistakes is part of the process. After all I would think most learn more from their mistakes than their successes.

 

[acheman]

"My take on Henson, who cares, he sucks!"

My take on CactusCowboy's take, who cares what your take is, your a jackass!

 

[Qwickdraw]

This stuff is so regular, so predictable and so empty.

LETS SEE:

Romo has been here even longer and has started ZERO GAMES. He didn't even have the opportunity to be yanked.
Romo was 2nd team, which meant what? He held for kicks. Big woopy.
Romo was the one in line to play in the garbage time. Did he? Has he even ATTEMPTED one pass in a real NFL game? No.

Every argument you make against Henson can also be made against Romo, but I'm guessing you are a Romo supporter.

Henson is getting better, you just don't WANT to see it, therefore you won't. Will it finally amount to anything? I have no idea. He may NEVER be a starter in the NFL. But to say he isn't showing some improvement is just to be stubborn or blind.

Wow.

First of all, this thread was about Henson, not Romo.
Second of all, Henson cost us a 3rd round pick, Romo cost us nothing.
Third of all, Henson was touted as a 1st rounder (possibly 1st pick in the draft).
Fourth of all, why would I want to see Henson fail when Im a Cowboys fan?
Thats just stupid.
I'm simply stating the obvious.

Finally, I'm not a "Romo guy" either.
I dont care for either of them.
But I havent really seen Romo much yet. Im sure when I do, Ill feel the same about him that I feel about Henson.

Our franchise QB is NOT on the roster yet.
Accept it.

And Whitehurst isnt the anwer, either.

 

[Qwickdraw]

Ok, so Romo has seen playing time, now counting four years? And that is being ready, especially since he was beat by a guy who came from baseball, while Romo was in his second year? Oh yeah, that proves he has IT!

Romo was the backup and he didn't get garbage time, so where does that put him? This is really a lame argument.

Lots of QBs play years in NFL and still aren't proven players. How the heck do you make a claim you already know that, when Henson hasn't played one Full season? So you know for sure say Phillip Rivers will be a success or the heck Eli Manning will have successful career in NFL?

Lastly Parcells said he wasn't ready last year. This is year is totally different. in 2004 that was Tony Romo for most part in Henson's position. 2006 will show how far Henson is or Romo is, since both should be close enough in play book wise etc.

Who the hell said anything about supporting Romo?

I dont think Romo OR Henson have IT.

(By the way, Eli Manning sucks terribly and Rivers will never be anything but average.)

 

[acheman]

"Our franchise QB is NOT on the roster yet.
Accept it.

And Whitehurst isnt the anwer, either."


Just out of curiosity, in your opinion WHO is the answer and has IT?

 

[RCowboyFan]

Who the hell said anything about supporting Romo?

I dont think Romo OR Henson have IT.

(By the way, Eli Manning sucks terribly and Rivers will never be anything but average.)

You did, read your own damn post, which said Romo won #2 job, which would be interpreted by anyone was saying Romo is currently better than Henson.

Well, its fine if you think Romo/Henson don't have IT. But don't go about saying that you agree with Bill Parcells opinion, when he has nothing of that sort.

Because just like you don't care about mine or anyone who thinks Henson might work out or can play in NFL, none of us care about yours either. When its proven that you are right in future, then maybe you crow about your opinion.

And lastly my point about Eli and Rivers was that you cannot tell right now whether they will succeed eventually or not. And you already judging them to be failure or not going to be good, just again says, you are an instant evaluator. Which in my dictionary means, can change opinions pretty quickly, IMO. I guess the kind that thought that Drew Brees was utter failure couple of years ago ( not saying you did, but plenty of who did that, now will never admit that though). Not that Drew Brees is a great QB, but just not a failure.

 

[RCowboyFan]

"Our franchise QB is NOT on the roster yet.
Accept it.

And Whitehurst isnt the anwer, either."


Just out of curiosity, in your opinion WHO is the answer and has IT?

Himself? :