My thoughts on the draft so far

[Stash]

It seems rather obvious that you failed to understand the teams position on running back salary. Is it such a reach to believe that maybe, just maybe the team feels Zeke Elliott is more valuable and less risky than paying Lamar Miller or Demarco Murray...I wanted both Murray and Miller but even I can understand how a 20 year old Elliott is more valuable than 27 year old Murray who was injured every year of his career or Lamar Miller who is less physical in style and for some reason was never viewed by the Dolphins as a guy who could carry a heavy load.

It seems rather obvious that you simply assume that anything the team does is the right decision.

To be worth the draft and salary costs, Elliott will have to run for 2,000 yards regularly. What will the new spin be when that doesn't happen?

Looking at how they passed on a guy like Spence and closed the door on Hardy shows the team has put extra emphasis on character. Also they don't want to carry a guy and his issues for 4 years to attempt to fix a 4 week problem.

This year maybe. Last year, 'the plan' included signing every questionable character around that they thought could give them pass rush. Now that it's blown up in their face? Yeah, somehow character matters again.

No team is 100% void of weakness. It's the nature of the NFL. But fans focus on any weakness that exist in the roster and freak out over them.

Nobody ever claimed otherwise, so it's a moot point. Some fans focus on weaknesses, while others blind themselves and pretend they don't exist. Two way street.

 

[Silver N Blue]

I'm ok with the offseason. My only real issue is they are short one starting caliber DE and I think they should've done more in FA to address.

They're putting a lot of pressure on Marinelli to mix-and-match and get by with smoke and mirrors at DE until Lawrence returns.

Jason jones is still out there.

 

[superonyx]

It seems rather obvious that you simply assume that anything the team does is the right decision.

To be worth the draft and salary costs, Elliott will have to run for 2,000 yards regularly. What will the new spin be when that doesn't happen?



This year maybe. Last year, 'the plan' included signing every questionable character around that they thought could give them pass rush. Now that it's blown up in their face? Yeah, somehow character matters again.



Nobody ever claimed otherwise, so it's a moot point. Some fans focus on weaknesses, while others blind themselves and pretend they don't exist. Two way street.

I don't assume every thing the team does is the right decision. In fact I never even said I was in favor of the pick...however I do prefer to let the season happen before dooming it just because the team do follow my advice. There isn't a code to crack for success in the league. Too many variables.

So you put some goofy number on how many yards Elliott needs to run for in order to make the selection worth it and then act like other fans need to justify the pick if he doesn't achieve your stat. Why 2k yards?
Most NFL games are won or lost by less than a TD. We have a group of RB's who have 4 collective TD's last year..if Elliott can score 6 more TD's than those guys then hypothetically that could account for 6 additional wins...again this is a bit of a silly assumption but makes 1000 times more sense than pretending he needs 2000 yards to make you feel warm and fuzzy.

So you have a problem with the team adjusting their strategy towards divisive character players? You prefer a team that refuses to adjust because it makes fans uncomfortable...this isn't Madden. Character and team can make a huge difference.

Finding reasons to be optimistic isn't about being blind... This sport is designed to have most games very close and most teams close enough to making the playoffs each year...the league wants it this way. So every team has weaknesses and every year you will have teams go from first to worst and worst to first.

 

[Ken]

I'm ok with the offseason. My only real issue is they are short one starting caliber DE and I think they should've done more in FA to address.

They're putting a lot of pressure on Marinelli to mix-and-match and get by with smoke and mirrors at DE until Lawrence returns.

I wouldn't worry much about it. They will bring someone in if they have to. Most likely, bring back Mincey...assuming he is out there.

 

[visionary]

We seemed to stick with McClay's board and not take for need so much.

Lol
You have seen McClays draft board? Please do share and not keep it all to yourself

 

[BulletBob]

I'm not seeing some grand 'Master Plan' like some people are trying to convince me of, but rather inconsistancy across the board.

I don't want to hear about any 'plan' when it's obvious they don't have one.

Maybe the plan was simply to draft the best player on their board regardless of any other noise.

That seems to be a pretty sound strategy to me.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Jason jones is still out there.

That's a good point.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Not a huge fan of selecting a RB at #4.

BUT one thing he has going for him is youth. I mean 20 years-old. There's something to be said for that. And he didn't have a lot of mileage on his body in college.

That's not to say I'd run him into the ground. If anything I'd be careful about the number of carries he did receive.

Tony D. didn't even start his first four games.

Emmitt averaged 15 carries a game his rookie season.

Career wise I'd like to see Elliott kept between 250-300 carries a season. He could be a consistent 1,100-1,400 yard back. Add in 40 receptions and 10 TD's a season and it's a solid return on the investment.

Give him the ball 350+ times a season and he'll wear out quickly. No duplication of wear & tear Murray had in 2014. You could tell by the end of the season he was gassed. And I think it carried over to his lousy 2015.

Having Elliott could extend McFadden's and Morris' careers also.

 

[Chuck 54]

I see the Romo statement more related to when and if we would select a QB than about maximizing the immediate future in the draft. What I love about the draft is Dallas finally seems to be maximizing the idea of acquiring the best talent early in the draft, regardless of position, while addressing more immediate needs in free agency and the latter parts of the draft.

That's how you build teams that compete over the long haul, not constantly up and down.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I see the Romo statement more related to when and if we would select a QB than about maximizing the immediate future in the draft. What I love about the draft is Dallas finally seems to be maximizing the idea of acquiring the best talent early in the draft, regardless of position, while addressing more immediate needs in free agency and the latter parts of the draft.

That's how you build teams that compete over the long haul, not constantly up and down.

Post of the day (so far!).

 

[percyhoward]

I see the Romo statement more related to when and if we would select a QB than about maximizing the immediate future in the draft.

We were a minute away from a trade to select a QB until Denver came in with a better offer.

 

[Stash]

I don't assume every thing the team does is the right decision. In fact I never even said I was in favor of the pick...however I do prefer to let the season happen before dooming it just because the team do follow my advice. There isn't a code to crack for success in the league. Too many variables.

So you put some goofy number on how many yards Elliott needs to run for in order to make the selection worth it and then act like other fans need to justify the pick if he doesn't achieve your stat. Why 2k yards?
Most NFL games are won or lost by less than a TD. We have a group of RB's who have 4 collective TD's last year..if Elliott can score 6 more TD's than those guys then hypothetically that could account for 6 additional wins...again this is a bit of a silly assumption but makes 1000 times more sense than pretending he needs 2000 yards to make you feel warm and fuzzy.

So you have a problem with the team adjusting their strategy towards divisive character players? You prefer a team that refuses to adjust because it makes fans uncomfortable...this isn't Madden. Character and team can make a huge difference.

Finding reasons to be optimistic isn't about being blind... This sport is designed to have most games very close and most teams close enough to making the playoffs each year...the league wants it this way. So every team has weaknesses and every year you will have teams go from first to worst and worst to first.

No, you don't assume everything the team does is right.

Then go on for multiple paragraphs trying to justify everything they've done.

 

[Stash]

Maybe the plan was simply to draft the best player on their board regardless of any other noise.

That seems to be a pretty sound strategy to me.

Sound being able to play is "other noise" now?

Oh the spin!

 

[Dundalis]

Some people don't seem to understand that the 'plan' might have little to do with win now or win later, and might simply be heavily based around simply BPA. Which it should be. Taking an inferior player because it fits some short term/long term idea of a 'plan' is how you end up with dud drafts. You can end up with dud drafts anyway, but as far as I'm concerned you give yourself the best shot at a good draft going BPA.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Stash keeps saying that Elliott has to run for 2000 yds every year to justify the pick. Have heard people say he has to be a generational back like Peterson to be worthy.

Compare college careers, and it's not even close, and remember Peterson was on some really talented Oklahoma teams. Elliott had two seasons better than Peterson's best. Elliott's all around game is on par with just about anyone that has ever played college football.

Dallas' greatest successes have come via a great running game. No reason to think they can't do it again.

 

[superonyx]

No, you don't assume everything the team does is right.

Then go on for multiple paragraphs trying to justify everything they've done.

Way to bring your point home.

I don't need to justify being happy negative nancy.

 

[RS12]

Let's first start with what message the team put out there early in the offseason, which was that the draft would be organized around the idea that Romo will be playing for the next 4-5 years, whether that turns out to be the case or not, that is how the organization is moving forward.

If thats the case why did they try and trade for Paxton Lynch? Swing and a miss.

 

[Stash]

Way to bring your point home.

I don't need to justify being happy negative nancy.

The contradiction is as hilarious as it is hypocritical. I criticize something and I'm 'Mr. Negative' but you're 'fair and unbiased' while you make excuses for everything...

 

[superonyx]

The contradiction is as hilarious as it is hypocritical. I criticize something and I'm 'Mr. Negative' but you're 'fair and unbiased' while you make excuses for everything...

Again no excuses needed.
What is to excuse? Should I or any fan have to make excuses because you were not as dialed in to the Cowboys draft strategy as you thought you were.


And I am fair and unbiased. I'm not the one who says Zeke needs to rush for 2k yards per season to justify being drafted at 4. That's just goofy beyond reason.

 

[Stash]

Again no excuses needed.
What is to excuse? Should I or any fan have to make excuses because you were not as dialed in to the Cowboys draft strategy as you thought you were.

No, you're the guy who'll prize them no matter what they do. Whatever it is will be great!

And I am fair and unbiased.

You keep lying and telling yourself that when the fact is that you can't take any criticisms of 'your Cowboys'.

I'm not the one who says Zeke needs to rush for 2k yards per season to justify being drafted at 4. That's just goofy beyond reason.

No, you're the guy who'll praise it no matter what happens. That's well established. That's 'goofier beyond reason'.

Check your brain at the door. Go Cowboys!