MySa Blog: Choice wouldn't mind trade

[5Stars]

Choice > Buehler

Step back.

:laugh2: :laugh1:


(STUPID...STUPID...Cowboy fans)!!

 

[5Stars]

He will also throw Bob out of the temple.

I doubt they would let Bobby Boy in a temple!

You posted his picture. The Great Spirit In the Sky could not fix that mug up.

 

[Angus]

He IS the best all around back in terms of offense. He can run, he can catch, and he can break the big plays. Felix is an explosive cat who can get you 60 yards on any given play, but he's not a workhorse. In order to get those 60 yards plays, he cannot carry the ball 25-30 times a game.

Choice won't get you the 60 yards play on any play, but he'll get you 60 yards on 10 tough carries and he gets stronger as the game goes on ( which is one of the barometers for a good running back )

About the only thing that I can think of that's holding Choice back in his pass protection.

He is the best pass protector. That's why he plays on third down more than either of the other two.

 

[masomenos]

He will also inspire the lame to walk and the blind to see.

Oh please, everyone knows that's Tebow's gig.

 

[masomenos]

Broken tackle rates (BT/Carries)

RB #1 - 12.9%
RB #2 - 4.7%
RB #3 - 9.4%

Yards After Contact, per attempt

RB #1 - 3.3
RB #2 - 1.9
RB #3 - 2.8

Any guesses who is who?

 

[Hostile]

Broken tackle rates (BT/Carries)

RB #1 - 12.9%
RB #2 - 4.7%
RB #3 - 9.4%

Yards After Contact, per attempt

RB #1 - 3.3
RB #2 - 1.9
RB #3 - 2.8

Any guesses who is who?

1...Barber
2...Choice
3...Jones

 

[dallasfaniac]

#1) Jones
#2) Choice
#3) Barber

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Choice
Jones
Barber

 

[Angus]

Can you give me some examples where doing this has improved team chemistry and personal treatment? I'm sure I have couple instances where it has been counter-productive.

Sure. Just look at Romo's remarks at the end of last year and the positive results produced.

 

[masomenos]

#1) Jones
#2) Choice
#3) Barber

There we go, that's the correct order.





Now, for everyone, let's play another game.

Of these players, how many would you want to have as a feature back?

Kevin Faulk, Reggie Bush, Arian Foster, Fred Taylor, Mike Tolbert, Garrett Wolfe, Kenneth Darby.

Anyone?

Doubtful. Those seven players all performed at the same level as Choice, or better, on limited carries, according to Football Outsiders.

How many would you even lobby for, to get more carries?

 

[dallasfaniac]

Sure. Just look at Romo's remarks at the end of last year and the positive results produced.

Did his soundbytes make Miles Austin a better player?

 

[isawoj]

There we go, that's the correct order.





Now, for everyone, let's play another game.

Of these players, how many would you want to have as a feature back?

Kevin Faulk, Reggie Bush, Arian Foster, Fred Taylor, Mike Tolbert, Garrett Wolfe, Kenneth Darby.

Anyone?

Doubtful. Those seven players all performed at the same level as Choice, or better, on limited carries, according to Football Outsiders.

How many would you even lobby for, to get more carries?

Those are horrible stats to compare between these three.

The majority of Choice's carries last year were out of the vanilla wildcat taking it up the middle. We can start comparing his productivity with your list of players when you find one running similar limited plays.

What do the numbers look like for 2008?

 

[Rampage]

There we go, that's the correct order.





Now, for everyone, let's play another game.

Of these players, how many would you want to have as a feature back?

Kevin Faulk, Reggie Bush, Arian Foster, Fred Taylor, Mike Tolbert, Garrett Wolfe, Kenneth Darby.

Anyone?

Doubtful. Those seven players all performed at the same level as Choice, or better, on limited carries, according to Football Outsiders.

How many would you even lobby for, to get more carries?

I saw Tashard choice play very well against top 5 defenses at the end of 2008 when he was the featured back. he also played well last year at KC as the featured back. so you go by your stats and i'll go by what i've seen him do.

 

[dallasfaniac]

There we go, that's the correct order.

Justin Forsett was very high in both those categories too, but I wouldn't want him over Choice.

 

[masomenos]

Those are horrible stats to compare between these three.

The majority of Choice's carries last year were out of the vanilla wildcat taking it up the middle. We can start comparing his productivity with your list of players when you find one running similar limited plays.

What do the numbers look like for 2008?

In 2008 these are the players who were comparable to, or better, than Choice:

Kevin Faulk, Peyton Hillis, Felix Jones, Jerome Harrison, Tatum Bell, Brandon Jackson, J.J. Arrington, Ryan Moats,

Those are some pretty scary names.

As far as the Wildcat, do you want to compare Choice's production to Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams?

Brown - 19.1% Broken Tackle Rate, 3.0 AVG Yards After Contact
Williams - 6.2% Broken Tackle Rate, 2.7 AVG Yards After Contact

 

[masomenos]

I saw Tashard choice play very well against top 5 defenses at the end of 2008 when he was the featured back. he also played well last year at KC as the featured back. so you go by your stats and i'll go by what i've seen him do.

Oh, right, you mean at the end of 2008 when he was completely fresh and he averaged 3.8 YPC against a Pittsburgh team that was allowing 3.3 YPC? That's the only time he's topped 20 carries in his carrier, yet he gets this "workhorse" label. Choice had 8 carries against KC. Do feature backs get 8 carries in a game now? Maybe you meant the Carolina game, where he averaged 4.6 YPC on 18 carries against a team that allowed 4.4 YPC on the season.

Earth shattering.

 

[Rampage]

Oh, right, you mean at the end of 2008 when he was completely fresh and he averaged 3.8 YPC against a Pittsburgh team that was allowing 3.3 YPC? That's the only time he's topped 20 carries in his carrier, yet he gets this "workhorse" label. Choice had 8 carries against KC. Do feature backs get 8 carries in a game now? Maybe you meant the Carolina game, where he averaged 4.6 YPC against a team that allowed 4.4 YPC on the season.

Earth shattering.

i'm not saying make him the featured back. but I bet if you give Choice the amount of carries Barber gets he will have better production. Barber has got to be one of the slowest backs in the league who apparently can't stay healthy anymore either. but boy does Barber sure know how to celebrate a 3 yard run.....

 

[Coakleys Dad]

I saw Tashard choice play very well against top 5 defenses at the end of 2008 when he was the featured back. he also played well last year at KC as the featured back. so you go by your stats and i'll go by what i've seen him do.

This.....

 

[superonyx]

Oh, right, you mean at the end of 2008 when he was completely fresh and he averaged 3.8 YPC against a Pittsburgh team that was allowing 3.3 YPC? That's the only time he's topped 20 carries in his carrier, yet he gets this "workhorse" label. Choice had 8 carries against KC. Do feature backs get 8 carries in a game now? Maybe you meant the Carolina game, where he averaged 4.6 YPC on 18 carries against a team that allowed 4.4 YPC on the season.

Earth shattering.

Wow. I guess all these people who were comparing Choice to Emmitt and speaking like he was the best back on the team wont want to read this.



This breakout game i keep hearing about was just 3.8 ypc?
Interesting....

 

[masomenos]

i'm not saying make him the featured back. but I bet if you give Choice the amount of carries Barber gets he will have better production. Barber has got to be one of the slowest backs in the league who apparently can't stay healthy anymore either. but boy does Barber sure know how to celebrate a 3 yard run.....

How long ago was it that people loved his energy in situations like that? How quickly the tables turn.

Barber had the 10th highest success rate in the league this year, in 2008 he was 42nd. That's a massive improvement and was a return to form for him. Barber finished the year with a high success rate and a high performance over average, that's the mark of a RB who gets the yards needed and extra. Barber's inability to convert on a few goal line and 4th down plays this year really stick out and are the root of a lot of the criticism, but the simple fact is that he's not a bad player. There's no reason to replace Barber with Choice in short yardage, Choice isn't as good of a short yardage runner. There's no reason to take carries away from Felix and give them to Choice, because Felix is just plain better. Choice is the third back for a reason, he's the least notable of the three.