MySa Blog: Choice wouldn't mind trade

psychowr2;3291351 said:
So whose getting traded on draft day? Marion Barber or Tashard Choice?

Sadly, I think you're right. Something very interesting will happen on draft day. Brace yourselves. I hope it's not Choice.
 
Chocolate Lab;3290931 said:
I like Choice well enough, but who is he to be talking this much about needing the ball more? Or that the Razorback doesn't have enough formations?

Exactly how I feel. Choice is a good player and we know he wants to win, but he does NOT need to be spewing this crap to the media. Between this and Jerry's stupid Roy Williams comments, I'm started to feel a little deflated. Who would have thought that Wade's comments would be more promising than those of Choice?
 
Running backs tend to have the shortest lifespan in the NFL, if he doesn't start pretty soon, he's basically throwing his career away.

The guy can play, he's a number 1 back and if we don't want to give him a starting or dual role with Felix, let the guy have his chance else where. You can't stockpile talent, especially great talent.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3290953 said:
Ya, he is saying nothing wrong at all.

Tashard is as i have said in the past the best back on this team, he is a prototypical workhouse back, if we let Tashard walk we will regret it. I wouldn't move him for any less than a top 20 pick in the 2010 draft.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

hey I got a bridge in brooklyn I wanna sell you. its a great deal I tell ya
 
I think barber is not tradable at his salary, so he is going to be on the roster. most teams in the NFL employ two back now anyways, so IMO, we keep all three. we cut barber next year and it will be choice and felix. and then everyone will scream they want John Doe our #3 RB who was drafted in the 4th should have been probably a top 20 pick and we got a steal and Choice should be traded.

but if someone is stupid enough to come along and gives us a 2nd for CHoice. I make that trade in a heart beat.
 
Stupid enough?? I'm positive there's teams out there who would give a second rounder for xhoice
 
As has been pointed out and guys has really been underlined just how short a RB career is- look at LT and otheres getting dumped now. TC knows he needs to be in a position to start in the next couple of years or he will never make it. remember he is a low rd pick and his rookie contract ain't all that. If he wants a real payday he is going to need to show something soon and right now he will not because of where he is at.

Also remember how reluctant this staff is to play backups unless the starter is just about dead?
 
Chocolate Lab;3290931 said:
I like Choice well enough, but who is he to be talking this much about needing the ball more? Or that the Razorback doesn't have enough formations?

did you not watch the games? they ran that same silly a** dive play out of the razorback formation EVERY time
 
UnoDallas;3291350 said:
Why would SF want Choice when they have one of the best already

well why is it in almost every mock they SF picking CJ Spiller
Because Gore is basically a more productive Barber. He's wearing down and the 49ers have publicly acknowledged that and the fact they are not comfortable with Glen Coffee in an enhanced role.
 
The thing that would get us more compensation for Choice is that he can block, catch, and run very well.

Hes an all around player. Very Curtis Martin like imo.

Unless someone offers us a lot i'd keep him. To valuable to give up imo.
 
iGor Olpiffsky;3291426 said:
did you not watch the games? they ran that same silly a** dive play out of the razorback formation EVERY time

No, I didn't watch the games last year. How did we do?
 
Chocolate Lab;3291457 said:
No, I didn't watch the games last year. How did we do?

so you're gonna act like Tashard isnt right? so Dallas didnt run that dive out of the razorback formation 99% of the time?
 
I didn't read the entire thread but I will say this: The Cowboys are doing this thing right.

I believe that this is Barber's last season in Dallas. I think, barring a phenomenal season, that Barber will be shown the door after the 2010 season. If they trade Choice, now, then they let a solid RB jump to another team after they put all the work in to make him a solid player. It's no secret that RBs can be had into the middle rounds of the draft, so it's not as if his production couldn't be replaced. But, the idea of turning the kid loose after putting all the work into him makes no sense.

Barber has little to no trade value, right now. No one wants his contract. Choice has trade value, but some fantastic upside. I hope the Cowboys play this thing out for the season and make changes in the backfield next year (namely, sending Barber down the road and going with Felix, Choice, and a draft pick).
 
CATCH17;3291455 said:
The thing that would get us more compensation for Choice is that he can block, catch, and run very well.

Hes an all around player. Very Curtis Martin like imo.

Unless someone offers us a lot i'd keep him. To valuable to give up imo.

Also factor in that Barber has a higher salary and more tread on his tires. MBIII also hasn't been healthy the last few years and the rest of the league is aware of that. He really doesn't have a high trade value unless a huge sucker comes along.

The options are either putting Choice on the block and seeing if he could fetch a quality pick, cutting Barber or telling Choice to stuff it for another season.
 
I don't get it.

Barber is becoming -- year over year -- less productive and more prone to injury. Felix is a No. 1-type back but runs very upright and hits the ground like a sack of potatoes. He's also not exactly Lou Gehrig material.

And this year's draft class is light in quality RBs. So is trading Choice even a viable option for the Cowboys? You might not think you get a lot from paying insurance premiums, but the right policy can provide some important protection nevertheless. Choice is the Cowboys insurance policy at RB.
 
Joe Rod;3291465 said:
Also factor in that Barber has a higher salary and more tread on his tires. MBIII also hasn't been healthy the last few years and the rest of the league is aware of that. He really doesn't have a high trade value unless a huge sucker comes along.

The options are either putting Choice on the block and seeing if he could fetch a quality pick, cutting Barber or telling Choice to stuff it for another season.

Yeah if anything Choice did us a favor with these comments because teams will start knocking with trade offers even more than before.



We are in a great situation. Personally I would keep Choice just for insurance reasons but if someone offers a high 2nd & 5th than we should listen.
 
Randy White;3291313 said:
Because apparently you weren't paying attention the year before last when he rushed for 472 yards on merely 92 attempts, including a couple of starts at the most.

Or apparently you were getting some refreshments when, during his 349 yards on 64 carries, in mostly bread crum duties, he scored one of the most important TDs of the season against KC.



You mean the same coaches who kept Miles Austin on the bench until they had no other choice but to start him and would have NEVER found out what he could do if RW hadn't gotten injured ?

Instead of this pointless rant you could have just answered yes. Yes i am basing my assessment and over evaluation on just 60 carries last year and 90 from the previous year.

Dont act like your evaluation of choice is based on production. If so then you should have very similar things to say about Darren Sproles and Chris Brown. Both have stat lines that look like choices. In fact sproles can even return kicks and punts.

You act like based on his very very limited contributions he should be cherished and starting. Seriously? You probably also are one of the "Ogletree should be starting" fans....... please humor me on your ogletree stance. I know its hard to swallow but Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett and the position coaches that have been around pro football for many years all know a little more than you and can evaluate talent better than we can. Otherwise you would be them and they would be arguing with someone on a message board.
 
superonyx;3291474 said:
Instead of this pointless rant you could have just answered yes. Yes i am basing my assessment and over evaluation on just 60 carries last year and 90 from the previous year.

Dont act like your evaluation of choice is based on production. If so then you should have very similar things to say about Darren Sproles and Chris Brown. Both have stat lines that look like choices. In fact sproles can even return kicks and punts.

You act like based on his very very limited contributions he should be cherished and starting. Seriously? You probably also are one of the "Ogletree should be starting" fans....... please humor me on your ogletree stance. I know its hard to swallow but Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett and the position coaches that have been around pro football for many years all know a little more than you and can evaluate talent better than we can. Otherwise you would be them and they would be arguing with someone on a message board.

This point would have more merit if we saw several instances of players on this roster who, while not seeming to deserve it, received extended playing time and wowed with their performance. That hasn't been the case.

The more recent debates - Jenkins/Scandrick for example, had fans split. On the other hand, do you honestly believe Miles' playing time and opportunities would have significantly increased - in other words, been worked in by the staff - had Williams not been hurt?

As to your comparison of Choice against other backs with similar carries/production - did they generate the same numbers against the caliber of defense he did to end 2008? Were their offensive lines in almost total disrepair as ours was at the end of 2008 when he generated said production against those defenses?

Comparatively speaking as to the other options in our backfield, a very strong case can easily be made that he should be starting. Personally, with Barber injured almost the entire last season, I feel it was ridiculous he was not utilized more. And that's just a simple deal of playing a healthy productive back vs. an unhealthy and limited (due to injury) back.
 
Choice is saying nothing wrong?

Hmm....okay. If you enjoy seeing the beginnings of TO junior, fine. Personally, though, I'd prefer he keep his ****ing mouth shut and deal with his status.

Maybe he is a better back than Barber, but this isn't the way you handle the situation. If he is, his time will come, probably sooner than later, but acting like a little baby does nothing to help his cause. It only pisses people off, specifically management, the people who matter.
 
The Dodger;3291532 said:
Hmm....okay. If you enjoy seeing the beginnings of TO junior, fine. Personally, though, I'd prefer he keep his ****ing mouth shut and deal with his status.

Choice is "T.O. Junior" now?

:laugh2:

When he starts doing situps in his driveway in protest, I'll understand the angst.

I find nothing wrong with him wanting an opportunity. I want more Choices on this roster (no pun intended). I want more young, eager, hungry players who are ambitious and want a shot at starting. I want the Barbers of the roster motivated by the nipping at their heels. More please.
 

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