Mythbusting Tony Romo....Yeah another stupid Romo thread

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Not what I've heard. I've heard that it was set up akin to school grades. 70 was a C performance, 80 a B, 90 a A and 100 on up about as good as you could expect.
I looked up the average team passer rating for the1972 season at pro-football-reference.com, and it was 63.5, so omitting negative sack yardage to get the QB's average rating, you'll probably get something close to 66.7 as the average.

Not that what you said is too far off anyway, because I can remember that a C was considered average in school at that time.
 

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They need to redo it now anyway. Increase the importance of yards per attempt and decrease the importance of percentage of completions.
 

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I certainly get tired of certain subjects rehashed in thread after thread after thread. But typically because the rationale used by posters within them is based pretty much on their emotions. Emotional threads are useless to me.

But add data and sound reasoning to a compelling topic and I'll probably read the thread(s) even if its an oft discussed topic.

Do I think it changes minds? Pretty rare. Shoot, when was the last time you heard two folks on this board engage in disagreement who acknowledged the other even made a good point that gave them pause? Or that there is even the slightest possibility that their opinion might be only 90% correct, or 80% correct.
 

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Do I think it changes minds? Pretty rare.

Yeah, it didn't change mine at all. I have seen the statistics twisted a million different ways to make Romo look good and the end of the
Luck was bailed by his team a good deal and the reason I point this out is just how important RZ play is. The Colts played very well in the RZ both D and O. Of course some of that is due to Luck (who I really like BTW). Romo on the other hand was on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Well, keep in mind that team was terrible the year before. What changed them from a 2-14 to an 11-5 team? I bet a lot of those players rallied behind Luck and stepped their games up. A good QB can motivate those around him to improve on their game and play at a higher level. Luck certainly did that in 2012.
 

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Yeah, it didn't change mine at all. I have seen the statistics twisted a million different ways to make Romo look good and the end of the


Well, keep in mind that team was terrible the year before. What changed them from a 2-14 to an 11-5 team? I bet a lot of those players rallied behind Luck and stepped their games up. A good QB can motivate those around him to improve on their game and play at a higher level. Luck certainly did that in 2012.

you are so full of it. Really. But it takes all kinds
 

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Yeah, it didn't change mine at all. I have seen the statistics twisted a million different ways to make Romo look good and the end of the...

It won't change your mind of course...

But the statistics on Romo aren't remotely being twisted by those that are pro-Romo. They simply leave you unconvinced. But they aren't twisted in the least. That's like saying that Adrian Peterson won the rushing title because they twisted the statistics. They are what they are.

Statements like yours are what illustrates why discussions with some are a complete waste of time.
 

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Yeah, it didn't change mine at all. I have seen the statistics twisted a million different ways to make Romo look good and the end of the


Well, keep in mind that team was terrible the year before. What changed them from a 2-14 to an 11-5 team? I bet a lot of those players rallied behind Luck and stepped their games up. A good QB can motivate those around him to improve on their game and play at a higher level. Luck certainly did that in 2012.


I think the Colts also turned over a much highr number of players from 2011 to 2012 than most teams do. Something like right around 20 players were there in both years.
 

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Well, keep in mind that team was terrible the year before. What changed them from a 2-14 to an 11-5 team? I bet a lot of those players rallied behind Luck and stepped their games up. A good QB can motivate those around him to improve on their game and play at a higher level. Luck certainly did that in 2012.
Give him credit for bringing his 76.5 rating up to 92.3 in the 4th quarter of close games. That's a pretty powerful motivator.

Apart from that, Luck played on a level that will usually get you beat. Switch the two teams' schedules, and the Cowboys might have gone to the playoffs instead of the Colts.
 

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Forget that I asked.

I will not get the answer I was seeking and this is just as inane as the endless stats.

Sorry.

Why are you so miserable all the time over something that you don't even have to read!!

smh
 

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It won't change your mind of course...

But the statistics on Romo aren't remotely being twisted by those that are pro-Romo. They simply leave you unconvinced. But they aren't twisted in the least. That's like saying that Adrian Peterson won the rushing title because they twisted the statistics. They are what they are.

Statements like yours are what illustrates why discussions with some are a complete waste of time.

I'm making the point that pro Romo fans look for any possible reason they can to prop Tony up and prove he is this wonderful QB and is right up there with the elites and he simply isn't. People play the statistics game all the time in all kinds of things in life to try and prove their point. They want to act like all of our problems are the rest of the players on the team and never Romo. In the end unless Romo drastically changes his game and attitude as a leader of the team, he will always be known as a good regular season QB who choked when it came to elimination/playoff games.
 

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I'm making the point that pro Romo fans look for any possible reason they can to prop Tony up and prove he is this wonderful QB and is right up there with the elites and he simply isn't. People play the statistics game all the time in all kinds of things in life to try and prove their point. They want to act like all of our problems are the rest of the players on the team and never Romo. In the end unless Romo drastically changes his game and attitude as a leader of the team, he will always be known as a good regular season QB who choked when it came to elimination/playoff games.

You know, if Romo ever does win a playoff game or a SB, you are going to get riddled and all your hate is going to come back to bite you in the butt! And that goes for all the others that have that same opinion.

Dog him all you want, but don't come celebrate with the ones that believe in him.

smh...!
 

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You know, if Romo ever does win a playoff game or a SB, you are going to get riddled and all your hate is going to come back to bite you in the butt! And that goes for all the others that have that same opinion.

Dog him all you want, but don't come celebrate with the ones that believe in him.

smh...!

If Romo ever does will a SB, I will gladly eat all the crow anyone wants to throw my way.
 

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Give him credit for bringing his 76.5 rating up to 92.3 in the 4th quarter of close games. That's a pretty powerful motivator.

Apart from that, Luck played on a level that will usually get you beat. Switch the two teams' schedules, and the Cowboys might have gone to the playoffs instead of the Colts.

I'm sorry but simply saying they had an easy schedule and that being the reason they went from 2-14 to 11-5 is just off. Not to mention they had a horrible running game as well. Luck was why that team went 11-5.
 

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If Romo ever does will a SB, I will gladly eat all the crow anyone wants to throw my way.

Of course you will eat all the crow, that's what most people do. You and others won't put out some positive energy towards Romo and the team, but when the team does win? You and the others are sitting at the table eating all the glory like the posters that actually root for success, including Romo.

It's a win, win situation for you kind of fans.
 

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Of course you will eat all the crow, that's what most people do. You and others won't put out some positive energy towards Romo and the team, but when the team does win? You and the others are sitting at the table eating all the glory like the posters that actually root for success, including Romo.

It's a win, win situation for you kind of fans.

I look at the Cowboys like I do my stock portfolio. At the end of the day, I've invested a ton of money in them (and continue to every year), I have a vested interest in them doing well, and when they don't, my investment isn't really paying off. Romo isn't THE problem, but he's certainly not THE solution. He's both the most overrated, and most underrated player in sports, there isn't much in between.
 

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I would too. I just wish Romo would show me one of these years.

Another fan that does not understand that Romo is not only reason that the team has not won.

But, if or when he does, you want to come to the parade. smh
 

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I would too. I just wish Romo would show me one of these years.

I do too, and it wouldn't even take a Super Bowl to do it, I'd just like to be able to go into a big game and feel confident that he's going to get the job done. What sucks for him is that his bad game seem to happen at the worst times, take the Commanders game for example. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the only play everyone is going to remember is that horrible INT he threw with the division on the line.
 

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Another fan that does not understand that Romo is not only reason that the team has not won.

But, if or when he does, you want to come to the parade. smh

It sounds like you're only interested in getting into a pissing match of sorts with the whole "Romo-hater" talk. It's unfortunate that people don't respect varying opinions.
 
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