Nate's Thoughts on Art Monk in the HOF

[JohnnyHopkins]

Funny quote I just heard from listening to the Michael Irvin show. When asked about his thoughts on Monk getting into the HOF, Nate Newton sounded less than impressed. His quote;

"Art Monk is Art Monk, man. We never gameplanned for him."

Just thought that was pretty funny and sums up why Monk was left out all these years.

 

[BigD]

I was listening too and lol'd. :laugh2:

 

[speedkilz88]

Monk was never "the guy" on his team, it was always someone else. It bothers me that he got in and Drew Pearson and Bob Hayes get jipped.

 

[JackMagist]

Monk was never "the guy" on his team, it was always someone else. It bothers me that he got in and Drew Pearson and Bob Hayes get jipped.

I don't begrudge Monk his place in the HoF but for him to go in over Pearson and Hayes is just ridiculous.

 

[AbeBeta]

Dr. Z, who conspiracy theorists on this board hail as a hero, said this about voting for Monk "I figured, just put him the f--- in already, I'm tired of being the a--hole."

Rousing support.

 

[cowboys2233]

Dr. Z, who conspiracy theorists on this board hail as a hero, said this about voting for Monk "I figured, just put him the f--- in already, I'm tired of being the a--hole."

Rousing support.

Yeah, and then we have to hear all the so-called "experts" whine about the fact that the public gets to vote for which players make the Pro Bowl because we're all ignorant. Funny how these "experts" tend to **** things up as much as anybody.

 

[Chief]

Baseball is a numbers game, especially when it comes to hall of fame inductions. There are all these benchmarks for players to be considered for the hall -- 300 wins as a pitcher, etc.

Art Monk would have been a slam dunk hall of famer in baseball. He was a numbers guy.

But the NFL is all about game-changers. Monk was not, but Drew Pearson and Bob Hayes were.

 

[theebs]

What would nate know about the hall of fame. He could never sniff the place.

I think monk was a great player and deserved to be in.

 

[Yeagermeister]

What would nate know about the hall of fame. He could never sniff the place.

I think monk was a great player and deserved to be in.

Only if there were donuts inside

 

[theebs]

Only if there were donuts inside

or other substances.

Nate is very outspoken on the radio about people. I am not sure why. I find him to be annoying. I appreciate how much he knows and he had a great career, but I just tire of hearing him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Nate is exactly right. To be in the HOF, you should at least be one of the best players of your time... Monk usually wasn't even the most feared WR on his own team.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Monk was never "the guy" on his team, it was always someone else. It bothers me that he got in and Drew Pearson and Bob Hayes get jipped.

Monk wasn't "the guy" when he caught 104 balls in 1984? That might not sound a lot today, but Monk played almost his whole career before the new rules on DB contact (which is one of the reasons it's so silly to say that his statistics are because of a move towards a more aerial game - that happened after him). He was the only receiver to break 100 receptions in the 80's - even Jerry Rice couldn't do it in five seasons. It wasn't until the new stricter rules on what kind of contact DBs could have with wide receivers that 100 reception seasons became the norm. He far exceeded the output of any other receiver of his generation. People like to say that he wasn't feared, that's fine - people are more scared of looking stupid than losing it seems.

 

[Chief]

Monk wasn't "the guy" when he caught 104 balls in 1984? That might not sound a lot today, but Monk played almost his whole career before the new rules on DB contact (which is one of the reasons it's so silly to say that his statistics are because of a move towards a more aerial game - that happened after him). He was the only receiver to break 100 receptions in the 80's - even Jerry Rice couldn't do it in five seasons. It wasn't until the new stricter rules on what kind of contact DBs could have with wide receivers that 100 reception seasons became the norm. He far exceeded the output of any other receiver of his generation. People like to say that he wasn't feared, that's fine - people are more scared of looking stupid than losing it seems.

Nobody is saying he wasn't productive.

 

[Haley94]

Monk wasn't "the guy" when he caught 104 balls in 1984? That might not sound a lot today, but Monk played almost his whole career before the new rules on DB contact (which is one of the reasons it's so silly to say that his statistics are because of a move towards a more aerial game - that happened after him). He was the only receiver to break 100 receptions in the 80's - even Jerry Rice couldn't do it in five seasons. It wasn't until the new stricter rules on what kind of contact DBs could have with wide receivers that 100 reception seasons became the norm. He far exceeded the output of any other receiver of his generation. People like to say that he wasn't feared, that's fine - people are more scared of looking stupid than losing it seems.

Weak! Bob Hayes change the way the game was played! Go crawl back in your hole.

 

[Doomsday101]

1st WR to ever have over 100 receptions in a season, 12,721 Receiving Yards #9 all time, eight years after retirement), 940 Receptions was #1, is now #5 eight years after retiring. Monk in my opinion belongs in the HOF. Having said that others are also deserving including some of our Cowboys but Monk belongs.

 

[speedkilz88]

Monk wasn't "the guy" when he caught 104 balls in 1984? That might not sound a lot today, but Monk played almost his whole career before the new rules on DB contact (which is one of the reasons it's so silly to say that his statistics are because of a move towards a more aerial game - that happened after him). He was the only receiver to break 100 receptions in the 80's - even Jerry Rice couldn't do it in five seasons. It wasn't until the new stricter rules on what kind of contact DBs could have with wide receivers that 100 reception seasons became the norm. He far exceeded the output of any other receiver of his generation. People like to say that he wasn't feared, that's fine - people are more scared of looking stupid than losing it seems.

When teams faced the skins they weren't trying to take away Monk, he wasn't the #1 receiver. The skins also ran a 3 wr set so they were one of the teams that did implement a more wide open attack.

 

[Doomsday101]

Weak! Bob Hayes change the way the game was played! Go crawl back in your hole.

And Hayes belongs in the HOF, but because Hayes is getting screwed does not mean Monk should as well?

 

[Skinsmaniac]

When teams faced the skins they weren't trying to take away Monk, he wasn't the #1 receiver. The skins also ran a 3 wr set so they were one of the teams that did implement a more wide open attack.

I'm sorry, teams were letting Monk get 104 receptions? Monk was the go-to guy for the Skins. You can say teams were more "scared" of the deep threats like Clark, but Monk was the QB's first option almost all the time.

 

[Haley94]

And Hayes belongs in the HOF, but because Hayes is getting screwed does not mean Monk should as well?

Monk was consistent and had a long career, I'll give him that, but I can't think of one epic catch he made. I just think all the Commander whining finally got him in the hall.

 

[AdamJT13]

Monk wasn't "the guy" when he caught 104 balls in 1984? That might not sound a lot today, but Monk played almost his whole career before the new rules on DB contact (which is one of the reasons it's so silly to say that his statistics are because of a move towards a more aerial game - that happened after him). He was the only receiver to break 100 receptions in the 80's - even Jerry Rice couldn't do it in five seasons. It wasn't until the new stricter rules on what kind of contact DBs could have with wide receivers that 100 reception seasons became the norm. He far exceeded the output of any other receiver of his generation. People like to say that he wasn't feared, that's fine - people are more scared of looking stupid than losing it seems.

The rules on contact against wide receivers haven't changed since 1978. Monk was a rookie in 1980.

Other than 1984 and 1985, Monk was just a good receiver -- not one of the best in the league. If not for his longevity, he wouldn't sniff the Hall of Fame.