National Guard, FBI on scene following gunfire in Boston suburb of Watertown

[daschoo]

You are correct. It was just my opinion. Heard they went to school here. Where is the Chechen connection?

BBC interviewing their Russian correspondent at the moment who is saying that Moscow have contacted the school in Dagestan where they were educated who said they don't know a great deal about them as the family moved to America in 2001.

 

[ologan]

BBC interviewing their Russian correspondent at the moment who is saying that Moscow have contacted the school in Dagestan where they were educated who said they don't know a great deal about them as the family moved to America in 2001.

Thanks, Daschoo. wonder when in 2001 they moved here......pre 9-11, or after.

(BTW, when are you coming to the US again, namely California?)

 

[speedkilz88]

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Dead Bombing Suspect: "I Don't Have a Single American Friend"
By David Weigel | Posted Friday, April 19, 2013, at 8:03 AM

Police have identified Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, as the "black hat" bombing suspect, killed during the manhunt that followed. Readers have pointed out that Johannes Hirn made Tsarnaev the subject of a photo essay, "Will Box for Passport," taken before the boxer competed at National Golden Gloves competition in Salt Lake City. The captions give us a micro-profile of the suspect.

Tamerlan, who studies at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and wants to become an engineer, took the semester off from school to train for the competition.
Tamerlan fled Chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early 90s, and lived for years in Kazakhstan before getting to the United States as a refugee.
Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."
If he wins enough fights... Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia.
Tamerlan says he doesn't drink or smoke anymore: "God said no alcohol." A muslim, he says: "There are no values anymore," and worries that "people can't control themselves."
This YouTube account may be Tsarnaev's.
UPDATE: Justin Hart located Tamerlan's Amazon wishlist. Among the hits:

- How to Make Driver's Licenses and Other ID on Your Home Computer
- The I.D. Forger: Homemade Birth Certificates & ​Other Documents Explained
- Secrets Of A Back Alley ID Man: Fake Id Construction Techniques Of The Underground
- The Lone Wolf And the Bear: Three Centuries of Chechen Defiance of Russian Rule
- Organized Crime: AN INSIDE GUIDE TO THE WORLD'S MOST SUCCESSFUL INDUSTRY
And, of course...

- How to Win Friends & Influ​ence People
Read more on Slate about the Boston Marathon bombing.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...ct_i_don_t_have_a_single_american_friend.html

 

[Miller]

On another website I'm following people are saying that police scanners are indicating they may have the 2nd one holed up in a house. I'm not CNN so don't hurt me if wrong. Just reporting info on here.

 

[WoodysGirl]

On another website I'm following people are saying that police scanners are indicating they may have the 2nd one holed up in a house. I'm not CNN so don't hurt me if wrong. Just reporting info on here.

No that's pretty much the only reports that are out now.

I'm watching the local Fox news and tracking twitter and that's all that's being reported.

SWAT is on the scene and they have a house surrounded.

 

[Future]

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/21...in-Niagara-Falls?odyssey=tab|topnews|bc|large

This thing is getting bigger if there's any validity to that.

These guys knew they were going to die immediately when their pictures were released. I would think that their only goal after that was inflicting as much death and damage as they could.

 

[visionary]

i think it is important to know why they did this

the profile of the older brother seems to suggest he had no US friends and was isolated

that goes against how i think of our society

i think one of our biggest strengths is that we have an open, strong, and adaptable society that can easily assimilate several cultures and is a reason why these attacks are less likely IMO

because people dont feel like 'outsiders' and become 'one of us'

so, it is important to know why this case was an exception

of course this is just my opinion

 

[Future]

i think it is important to know why they did this

the profile of the older brother seems to suggest he had no US friends and was isolated

that goes against how i think of our society

i think one of our biggest strengths is that we have an open, strong, and adaptable society that can easily assimilate several cultures and is a reason why these attacks are less likely IMO

because people dont feel like 'outsiders' and become 'one of us'

so, it is important to know why this case was an exception

of course this is just my opinion

I don't think its that much of an exception. I worked with lots of ESL (english as a second language) students at grad school, and they only hung out with each other. Lots seem to have difficulty assimilating into American culture. I don't know why or claim to think that its right, but I think we live in a "show me" culture. Of course there are some bigots and racists out there, but for the most part, you have to earn friendships. It's hard to do that, regardless of where you are from.

 

[muck4doo]

Anyone watching this right now? It's surreal.

 

[Lodeus]

Anonymous twitter feed say they got him in handcuffs.

Anonymous ‏@YourAnonNews 5s
#Watertown: There was some indication that the suspect police are currently dealing with is not "suspect #2".

 

[muck4doo]

Anonymous twitter feed say they got him in handcuffs.

Heard it wasn't him. Fox is showing live right now, and cops were moving in and someone took a shot at them. They all moved to different locations.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

i think it is important to know why they did this

the profile of the older brother seems to suggest he had no US friends and was isolated

that goes against how i think of our society

i think one of our biggest strengths is that we have an open, strong, and adaptable society that can easily assimilate several cultures and is a reason why these attacks are less likely IMO

because people dont feel like 'outsiders' and become 'one of us'

so, it is important to know why this case was an exception

of course this is just my opinion

I agree. I don't know if it's because they are isolated, but I can see that. Either way, it was an extreme thing to do. Personally, I have several foreigner friends from various places. Having attended the university here at a later age was a big part of that. I find different cultures to be more interesting than American culture anyway, which I think is often shallow and boring.

I don't think its that much of an exception. I worked with lots of ESL (english as a second language) students at grad school, and they only hung out with each other. Lots seem to have difficulty assimilating into American culture. I don't know why or claim to think that its right, but I think we live in a "show me" culture. Of course there are some bigots and racists out there, but for the most part, you have to earn friendships. It's hard to do that, regardless of where you are from.

I agree. I have dated two PhD students here, one from Iran and one from Egypt on a fulbright scholarship. They both still have difficulty assimilating into our culture altogether, but somehow, they found me to be accepting and likable. I have gotten to the point where I really don't like dating American women for various reasons. That's not a rule, but it's something I haven't done in quite a while.

Having dated them, though, I've found that men from these places are even more isolated. One reason is because the women here often assimilate with our culture and adapt to our norms while the men adhere to their beliefs more stubbornly. This causes them to resent Americans, the women from their own countries and become bitter towards Americans in general.

 

[muck4doo]

I find different cultures to be more interesting than American culture anyway, which I think is often shallow and boring.

Those growing in different cultures often think the same thing of themselves. Why do you think people keep coming to the Americas?

 

[Nation]

This is pretty crazy. I live in South Boston and we are being told to Shelter-in-Home and so are all the towns that surround Watertown, and that town is completely shut down.

 

[muck4doo]

This is pretty crazy. I live in South Boston and we are being told to Shelter-in-Home and so are all the towns that surround Watertown, and that town is completely shut down.

I can understand shutting down a neighborhood, but the whole city?

 

[Denim Chicken]

I can understand shutting down a neighborhood, but the whole city?

Perfect time for marshal law rehearsal.

 

[Miller]

They interviewed their Uncle. The Uncle said that the older one was a "loser" who was illiterate and who got what he deserved. No joke.

 

[Denim Chicken]

They interviewed their Uncle. The Uncle said that the older one was a "loser" who was illiterate and who got what he deserved. No joke.

From what I've read its seems they will make this about bullying rather than any kind of political vendetta.

 

[jobberone]

*Please, do not politicize this thread, throw out inflammatory remarks or make accusations or comments attributed to others without a source.*

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Those growing in different cultures often think the same thing of themselves. Why do you think people keep coming to the Americas?

Yeah, in a way, you're right. But they always hold on to the identities from their own cultures. What I find is that they're not completely comfortable in either culture. One person, who is still my good friend, writes about that in her work.