Need some advice about Guns

jobberone

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a_minimalist;4642327 said:
have three reputable people knowing the person for at least three years and have a “justifiable need to carry a handgun.”

I'm not sure how to interpret 'justifiable need'

I fear someone entering my home and killing me is always a good one. That reads like I carry money from my business to the bank every night and I want to carry. It also reads like it depends on where you live and how the Chief feels about it unless you have connections. Call the jurisdiction where you live and ask them what to do. Before you do go to a gun shop and talk guns. Then go somewhere and fire some. You may find you hate guns or don't really care much anymore. Or you could fall in love and become the next 007. If you are going to own a gun then you must get proficient with it. Good luck.
 

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jobberone;4642339 said:
I fear someone entering my home and killing me is always a good one. That reads like I carry money from my business to the bank every night and I want to carry. It also reads like it depends on where you live and how the Chief feels about it unless you have connections. Call the jurisdiction where you live and ask them what to do. Before you do go to a gun shop and talk guns. Then go somewhere and fire some. You may find you hate guns or don't really care much anymore. Or you could fall in love and become the next 007. If you are going to own a gun then you must get proficient with it. Good luck.

The next 007? I like the way you think.

But yeah, there's no doubt that I need to learn about guns and shoot them before anything. I should have been more specific and made it clear from the start that I was interested in guns to try at the range first.
 

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A Glock is a good first gun. Reliable, very easy to take apart and put back together, and it won't cost you an arm and a leg.
 

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Get a .22 single action for the range. Both Ruger and Colt still make single actions. There's also more affordable brands like Herritage and Cimarron. 22s are cheap to shoot, great for learning, and can be handled easily by kids and wives. They've got the cool old western look too that I love.

If you don't come from a gun background and your looking for home defense I wouldn't even mess with a pistol. Get a 12 gauge double barrel or pump shotgun. They're way more affective per round, way more intimidating visually, and can be picked up cheap.

If you don't come from a gun background and your insistent on a pistol for home defense, get a Taurus Judge Public Defender. It shoots both .410 shot shells and .45 long Colt. I bought my wife one as a carry piece and have fallen in love with it. It's a wicked little gun that throws a trash can lid pattern of pellets at about 10-12 yards. They hold 5 rounds and I keep my wife's loaded with 3 .410 and 2 .45 long Colt. If the first 3 shots don't do the trick, the second 2 sure as hell will!
 

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I started with a .22 rifle and I started my kids with the same. If you want a gun that is great for training and inexpensive, start out with a .22 cal. I was raised with a gun in my hand, as many kids are in the South. Since this your first time using a gun, I would think that starting small and working your way up would be the best. Choose a .22 cal in either a rifle or pistol and the recoil will be less. To be honest, they are just fun to shoot. You will have a small investment until you learn how to handle the firearm safely and by that time , you will know enough to pick out something larger. A rifle is a better first gun IMO. I have 63 different guns and I use and enjoy my Ruger .22 auto rifle more than all the others combined.
 

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If you are concerned with home defense the best weapon is a double barrelled 12 gauge Shotgun loaded with 00 Buckshot.

Aiming is not critical and it will stop anything short of a elephant.
Easy to use.

There are those that like to say pump action shotguns are better because people are afraid of the sound of pumping a round in.

I say they are full of crap since many do not know what sounds like; you might forget to pump in a round due to stress and fear; and if you have a druggie coming at you he will not care anyway.

If you just want to plink then get a 22 since that is the cheapest weapon and ammunition.

Hand guns require constant practice to stay competent. Takes lots of ammo and that gets expensive.
 

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This is my new baby. You should get one. :D Kel Tec KSG shotgun.

(14) Zombie killin shots. ;)



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JIMMYBUFFETT;4642456 said:
Get a .22 single action for the range. Both Ruger and Colt still make single actions. There's also more affordable brands like Herritage and Cimarron. 22s are cheap to shoot, great for learning, and can be handled easily by kids and wives. They've got the cool old western look too that I love.

If you don't come from a gun background and your looking for home defense I wouldn't even mess with a pistol. Get a 12 gauge double barrel or pump shotgun. They're way more affective per round, way more intimidating visually, and can be picked up cheap.

If you don't come from a gun background and your insistent on a pistol for home defense, get a Taurus Judge Public Defender. It shoots both .410 shot shells and .45 long Colt. I bought my wife one as a carry piece and have fallen in love with it. It's a wicked little gun that throws a trash can lid pattern of pellets at about 10-12 yards. They hold 5 rounds and I keep my wife's loaded with 3 .410 and 2 .45 long Colt. If the first 3 shots don't do the trick, the second 2 sure as hell will!
The Judge is a fine defense weapon. I keep 1 in my truck and 1 by my nightstand. They are great close range snake guns . The options are close to endless with ammo combinations. They are just fun to shoot.
 

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I like my 9mm 15 in the clip. Fun gun to shoot.

Friend of mine let me shoot his .44 mag revolver, talk about a powerful hand gun with some kick but I was highly accurate with it.
 

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Doomsday101;4642602 said:
I like my 9mm 15 in the clip. Fun gun to shoot.

Friend of mine let me shoot his .44 mag revolver, talk about a powerful hand gun with some kick but I was highly accurate with it.

I've got a Ruger .44 single action. It's my sidearm that I carry when hunting or fishing in bear country. I've never fired it at anything but paper, but it feels real good next to you in the tent at night.
 

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I was thinking .22 myself as I was reading through this. I would go with a semi-auto myself. This will get you familiar with handling a semi-auto for when you step up to a self defense caliber. Browning and Ruger make some real nice semi-auto .22 handguns. Bigger calibers get real expensive to practice with and you will need to practice.

If you go with a self defense caliber you should definitely try it out first if you can. Glocks have a relatively unique grip angle and some people just can't shoot them. They also have the Glock trigger which can be a bear for the newb to get the hang of. They are a great combat weapon but if you will be shooting for bullseyes you might get frustrated with the heavy trigger pull (i'm not a Glock hater, a G17 is my go to handgun.) If I'm going to be with my buddies shooting for bragging rights I'll grab the Kimber 1911.

Home defense = 12 gauge pump with one in the chamber.

For the same money as you would spend on a new big caliber handgun you could get the 12g pump for home and a semi-auto .22 for plinking.
 

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JIMMYBUFFETT;4642633 said:
I've got a Ruger .44 single action. It's my sidearm that I carry when hunting or fishing in bear country. I've never fired it at anything but paper, but it feels real good next to you in the tent at night.

My buddy has the Smith & Wesson Model 29 with the 203mm/8in barrel.

Same gun from the old Clint Eastwood "Dirty Harry" movies. It is a mean looking gun with that long barrel
 

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Vtwin;4642636 said:
I was thinking .22 myself as I was reading through this. I would go with a semi-auto myself. This will get you familiar with handling a semi-auto for when you step up to a self defense caliber. Browning and Ruger make some real nice semi-auto .22 handguns. Bigger calibers get real expensive to practice with and you will need to practice.

If you go with a self defense caliber you should definitely try it out first if you can. Glocks have a relatively unique grip angle and some people just can't shoot them. They also have the Glock trigger which can be a bear for the newb to get the hang of. They are a great combat weapon but if you will be shooting for bullseyes you might get frustrated with the heavy trigger pull (i'm not a Glock hater, a G17 is my go to handgun.) If I'm going to be with my buddies shooting for bragging rights I'll grab the Kimber 1911.

Home defense = 12 gauge pump with one in the chamber.

For the same money as you would spend on a new big caliber handgun you could get the 12g pump for home and a semi-auto .22 for plinking.

As of right now, I'm going to take a class and just rent guns. I'll stick with .22 to start. After that if I'm still interested, that's when I'll buy something that I like the look and feel of. I'd want something with more power though. I'm very much into design/aesthetics too, but that should never trump functionality.
 

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a_minimalist;4642660 said:
As of right now, I'm going to take a class and just rent guns. I'll stick with .22 to start. After that if I'm still interested, that's when I'll buy something for that I like the look and feel of. I'm very much into design/aesthetics but that should never trump functionality.

That is a good way to go.
 

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The first hand gun I ever fired was a 44.

What a thrill.

I had to have one.

Everything else I tried after buying my 44 was like a toy. Not real practical to carry for self defense tho. But fun to fire.

Best advice is try out different ones and see what you like. Do some research and find out what is good for you usage.
 
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