Need some advice about Guns

[a_minimalist]

Good choice.

Entry fee isn't as steep as bigger cal guns.

Seems like you are getting the Signess... Love my Sigs. I have the P226.

Forgot to add one more company: FNH USA. I have the 5.7. Would love to get the P90 in the future. They use the same ammo. Nice to have when the zombies come.

Ever shoot the P229? There doesn't seem to be much difference between the two except for size, right?

As for FNH, the F2000 looks real nice. I think the Kriss Vector is pretty cool looking too. If you watch the show Sons of Guns, or ever heard of it, they feature the gun on one episode and do pretty cool mods to it.

 

[Dodger]

I've heard people rave about the Smith and Wesson’s M&P .22. Definitely a lot better looking than the MarkIII.

I was thinking about getting one, but I may be moving to Manhattan soon. I'm not sure I can even legally own in the city. NYC has one of the most strict gun laws in the country.

All of the Smith M&Ps are getting great reviews. People hated the Sigma that came before it, so Smith, to their credit, listened to all of the feedback and created the M&P. Not only are they excellent firearms, they're relatively inexpensive compared to others. You can get the .40, which will be the next weapon I buy, for about $500 on gunbroker.

 

[rkell87]

starting with a .22 at the range is solid advice but I just wanted to suggest that you convince a friend or 2 to go to the range with you and you both rent a different caliber. First time I went with my cousin and two uncles and I was able to try out a .22, 9mm, .357 revolver, .40, and .44 which I felt was a great way to start.

the .22 is a great intro gun but imo is not that fun to shoot because it feels like you aren't even firing a real gun, I've had more kick back on a pump pellet gun. It also sounds like a pop cap gun going off and with other people at the range firing bigger calibers it will seem like you don't even need the ear muffs if it weren't for the other people.

If you can get somebody to go with you I suggest getting the .22 and a 9mm or .22 and whatever gun/caliber you really really want to try and trade back and forth. Just call ahead for pricing because the bigger calibers have more expensive ammo, I suggested the 9mm because the ammo is still cheap but still feels like what you expect a gun to feel like when you fire it.

I have wanted to get a gun for a couple of years now but I am still convincing my GF. She has said she is willing to go to the range but there is always something she would rather be doing so it hasn't happened yet. She is afraid of guns because her mom is afraid of them just like roaches. If am gone for a night she puts a chair against the door, but the stupid thing is that because of her fear I know for a fact that if there was a home invasion attempt and even if the chair worked her first words would be 'we need to get a gun' because the fear of that situation would trump her fear of guns and and having the gun would provide a feeling of security

 

[a_minimalist]

starting with a .22 at the range is solid advice but I just wanted to suggest that you convince a friend or 2 to go to the range with you and you both rent a different caliber. First time I went with my cousin and two uncles and I was able to try out a .22, 9mm, .357 revolver, .40, and .44 which I felt was a great way to start.

the .22 is a great intro gun but imo is not that fun to shoot because it feels like you aren't even firing a real gun, I've had more kick back on a pump pellet gun. It also sounds like a pop cap gun going off and with other people at the range firing bigger calibers it will seem like you don't even need the ear muffs if it weren't for the other people.

If you can get somebody to go with you I suggest getting the .22 and a 9mm or .22 and whatever gun/caliber you really really want to try and trade back and forth. Just call ahead for pricing because the bigger calibers have more expensive ammo, I suggested the 9mm because the ammo is still cheap but still feels like what you expect a gun to feel like when you fire it.

I have wanted to get a gun for a couple of years now but I am still convincing my GF. She has said she is willing to go to the range but there is always something she would rather be doing so it hasn't happened yet. She is afraid of guns because her mom is afraid of them just like roaches. If am gone for a night she puts a chair against the door, but the stupid thing is that because of her fear I know for a fact that if there was a home invasion attempt and even if the chair worked her first words would be 'we need to get a gun' because the fear of that situation would trump her fear of guns and and having the gun would provide a feeling of security

That's a really good idea. Right now I'm trying to convince my cousin to come so that could be a good option. If not, you rent guns by the hour there so after one hour I can always upgrade.

 

[rkell87]

That's a really good idea. Right now I'm trying to convince my cousin to come so that could be a good option. If not, you rent guns by the hour there so after one hour I can always upgrade.

yeah but a second hour and another box of pricier ammo can get expensive but it is an option.

 

[a_minimalist]

yeah but a second hour and another box of pricier ammo can get expensive but it is an option.

It's $64 for 2 hours and 2 guns. Think it will be more than $125 with ammo?

 

[YosemiteSam]

A .22 will kill just as dead as any other gun. :laugh2:

 

[MapleLeaf]

I would recommend taking a basic handgun instruction course before purchasing one. QUOTE]

...this comment.

It's a big responsibility and one that needs proper training.

 

[jobberone]

A .22 will kill just as dead as any other gun. :laugh2:

Yeah, dead is dead. I strongly advise against using this for self defense. However, it's a great gun to train with. And I like the Ruger as well esp in stainless. Great way to increase your accuracy and practice midline and head shots. Way cheaper.

If you have the money then a .22 semiauto pistol and another weapon for self defense. A revolver is cheaper than semiauto, doesn't require chambering a round, and if double action is just pull the trigger and fire. It's rare to need more than a couple of shots with the proper ammo and caliber.

 

[a_minimalist]

I would recommend taking a basic handgun instruction course before purchasing one. QUOTE]

...this comment.

It's a big responsibility and one that needs proper training.

I agree. I wouldn't take it lightly. There 3 different classes I would take long before I purchased a gun.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I agree. I wouldn't take it lightly. There 3 different classes I would take long before I purchased a gun.

...instructor not only will they teach you basics, but they can also improve your competency with the firearm.

Nothing worse than not being able to hit the broad side of the barn or being panic stricken when you have the gun in your hand.

Good luck in making a selection of firearms.

 

[rkell87]

It's $64 for 2 hours and 2 guns. Think it will be more than $125 with ammo?

is that with the non member range fee? It will depend if your range marks up ammo or if they make you use their ammo. I've been to ranges that allow you to bring your own ammo and you can get 100 rounds of .22 for like 6 bucks maybe less at trade shows, 100 rounds of 9mm for 12 bucks but if you have to use theirs they can mark it up by about 50% or they may only use "better" ammo for their rental guns to 'make them last longer' so short answer is no probably not unless you put like 500 rounds through the gun and if the price you quoted includes the range fee

 

[RastaRocket]

You should carry about 6000 rounds of ammo on you.

 

[AbeBeta]

You should probably just go ahead and buy an assault rifle. Appears to be easy as pie.

 

[a_minimalist]

You should carry about 6000 rounds of ammo on you.

Smarty Pants #1

 

[a_minimalist]

You should probably just go ahead and buy an assault rifle. Appears to be easy as pie.

Smarty Pants # 2

 

[a_minimalist]

I love how one person can change a bunch of paranoid and weak minded people into believing every person is crazy. There are no such things as hobbies in a smarty pants' eyes. They have it all figured out.

Anyway, no politics.

 

[bsheeern]

Get a .22 single action for the range. Both Ruger and Colt still make single actions. There's also more affordable brands like Herritage and Cimarron. 22s are cheap to shoot, great for learning, and can be handled easily by kids and wives. They've got the cool old western look too that I love.

If you don't come from a gun background and your looking for home defense I wouldn't even mess with a pistol. Get a 12 gauge double barrel or pump shotgun. They're way more affective per round, way more intimidating visually, and can be picked up cheap.

If you don't come from a gun background and your insistent on a pistol for home defense, get a Taurus Judge Public Defender. It shoots both .410 shot shells and .45 long Colt. I bought my wife one as a carry piece and have fallen in love with it. It's a wicked little gun that throws a trash can lid pattern of pellets at about 10-12 yards. They hold 5 rounds and I keep my wife's loaded with 3 .410 and 2 .45 long Colt. If the first 3 shots don't do the trick, the second 2 sure as hell will!

I agree with this every step of the way. Get you a .22 and you can spend hours taking out targets and setting up cool target games for increasing your accuracy and having friendly competitions between you and some friends.

 

[kapolani]

Ever shoot the P229? There doesn't seem to be much difference between the two except for size, right?

Yes. Liked the P229. Only difference is size. One is more tailored for concealed carry.

As for FNH, the F2000 looks real nice. I think the Kriss Vector is pretty cool looking too. If you watch the show Sons of Guns, or ever heard of it, they feature the gun on one episode and do pretty cool mods to it.

I like the Vector as well.

But, my next rifle build will be a 300 BLK PDW. Love the round. Great ballistics.

 

[kapolani]

You should carry about 6000 rounds of ammo on you.

Impractical. There is no need for that much ammo to be carried when hunting or plinking at the range.