Nerve firing confusion in Jaylon's recovery

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I believe the message here is that Jaylon's condition is gradually improving and we should all be happy and relieved to hear this. Knowing exactly what to expect is a matter to be decided by Mother Nature whenever she sees fit to return JS to good health. I'm elated to see that we'll most likely be enjoying the benefits of another excellent athlete at LB for many years to come whenever that blessed event occurs. These are undoubtedly good times in Cowboy Country with the arrows pointing up. I think we can all rejoice now and be thankfully relieved.
 
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Bullflop said:
I believe the message here is that Jaylon's condition is gradually improving and we should all be happy and relieved to hear this. Knowing exactly what to expect is a matter to be decided by Mother Nature whenever she sees fit to return JS to good health. I'm elated to see that we'll most likely be enjoying the benefits of another excellent athlete at LB for many years to come whenever that blessed event occurs. These are undoubtedly good times in Cowboy Country with the arrows pointing up. We can all rejoice now and be thankfully relieved.
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Great post, Bullflop (as always, and good morning, brother). If we get him back this year or next (probably next), we can all be jubilent and sit in a circle and sing "Kumbaya"

Arrows are pointing up up up, Bullflop, great times... finally.

We can only be so fortunate to get this young man, this amazing young man, back whenever he is ready.
 
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TheCount said:
Hard to follow your post a little bit, but appreciate the breakdown.

I have no expectations of seeing Jaylon on the field this year and never have, despite what Jerry says. I think the only reason he's not on IR is because they wanted to keep him with the team because they feel he's every bit as talented as Zeke is.

Whether that's true or not remains to be seen, but I definitely feel it's a Jerry decision to not IR him, not a Garrett decision.
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This is not a Jerry / Jason decision, it is a team decision with some input from the Doctor. Why does everyone still want to claim Jerry makes all these choices.
And it doesn't matter who or what they decided. He is on the NFI list because the NFL rules allows him to be.
 
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Trouty said:
Great post, Bullflop (as always, and good morning, brother). If we get him back this year or next (probably next), we can all be jubilent and sit in a circle and sing "Kumbaya"

Arrows are pointing up up up, Bullflop, great times... finally.

We can only be so fortunate to get this young man, this amazing young man, back whenever he is ready.
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Thanks, bro . . . right about now, I'm feeling like I want to pinch myself just to make sure I'm not dreaming. After undergoing a 20-year playoff drought and now this -- whoa . . . seems like it's almost too good to be true. More than ever, I can't wait these days for the next game to come to sit down, have a couple of beers with my adult son and revel in the returning glory of a Cowboys team on the rise! Let the good times roll . . . :)
 
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waldoputty said:
Jerry is quoted as having said the Jaylon's nerve just started firing.
If the muscle is only able to move NOW, Jaylon is NOT playing this year.
The rehab is a long process.

If we want to see Jaylon play while being 100%, let's hope that Jerry is just 'simplifying' things.
The nerve cell has been 'firing' all this time because it is still alive.
When he says 'firing', he probably means the muscle is able to do a lot of good stuff.
For the muscle to be able to do a lot of good stuff, that means the nerve regenerated quite a while ago.
That would be mid August, when things slowly started to work based on Dr. Cooper' estimate.
That would happen be about 6 weeks before Jaylon's happy tweets started.

Dr. Cooper said 9-15 months for full recovery knowing that the nerve only takes about 7 months to get there.
Doing the math, that is 2-8 months of rehab AFTER the nerve gets there.

To clarify, it is the link (axon of nerve cell) from the nerve cell to the muscle that was affected.
In particular, the portion of the cell from the knee to the muscle died.
Until the nerve axon regenerates back to the muscle, the muscle is paralyzed.
During this regeneration, there is more and more feeling down the leg as the axons regenerate towards the muscle, as reported by Jaylon even in April.
This regeneration is what takes about 1 inch per month with a 1 month delay after the surgery.

This was posted before about someone who suffered a similar though somewhat worse recovery injury as Jaylon. This guy is running without an ATO/brace 9 months after injury. His recovery is not yet complete. Ever after the nerve makes connection, it is not an on/off result but slow recovery:

"Running after getting out of my Carbon-AFO. This was 9 months after the initial injury. Dorsiflexion, and eversion were non-existent directly after injury due to blunt force trauma to the right knee, medial side, causing ACL, LCL ligament tears and the peroneal nerve to be crushed. 9 months later, the nerve has regenerated on its own and I am able to jog/run without AFO assistance. I am completely out of my brace at this time as well. Strength and range of motion are not fully recover, but are slowly making progress. Notice the heel hitting on the right foot due to lack of RoM and strength. I am getting better every few weeks!"

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Nobody can beat a dead freakin' horse like you waldo.
 
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TheCount said:
Hard to follow your post a little bit, but appreciate the breakdown.

I have no expectations of seeing Jaylon on the field this year and never have, despite what Jerry says. I think the only reason he's not on IR is because they wanted to keep him with the team because they feel he's every bit as talented as Zeke is.

Whether that's true or not remains to be seen, but I definitely feel it's a Jerry decision to not IR him, not a Garrett decision.
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He's not on IR because there is no reason for him to be on IR. He's on NFI and that's basically the same. Also, I'm pretty sure IR guys can be with the team.
 
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TheCount said:
Whether that's true or not remains to be seen, but I definitely feel it's a Jerry decision to not IR him, not a Garrett decision
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IR is a general manager decision, not a coach's decision.
 
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waving monkey said:
I'll never understand this preoccupation with who decided.
i have heard over and over ,the coach is undermined.
If this is the results of undermined coach ; well already then let us undermine the do do outa Garrett.
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They've been undermining head coaches for 20 years.

You can be happy with those results. I'm not.
 
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AbeBeta said:
He's not on IR because there is no reason for him to be on IR. He's on NFI and that's basically the same. Also, I'm pretty sure IR guys can be with the team.
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I'm sure you know what I meant, but sure, let's waste time arguing semantics.

While there may be no major difference between NFI Reserve and IR, there is certainly a difference between NFI Active and IR. Either way, the team has given him a designation that is meant to keep him motivated - even if, in my opinion, there's no chance he plays this year.
 
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