New Game Called Find Jeff Heath

[garyo1954]

Bare metrics of a single position can be an optical illusion. Sometimes the composite of everything working together makes more sense.

Jeff didn't have a good game, but as you say, neither did the rest of the defense.

A W is a W no matter how those, to borrow a phrase, "pocket protector producing nerds" look at it.

 

[Hennessy_King]

And this is why I put zero stock in PFF rankings. Anybody with a brain and half-trained football eye knows Jeff Heath played way better than either of the Giants safeties

No he played better than the corners of the giants. And he might have had a better coverage grade but his run defense grade was literally worse in the NFL. So remember when you were in school. If you got a 0 then got a 100 your average was 50. His run defense grade was a 28

 

[Hennessy_King]

Bare metrics of a single position can be an optical illusion. Sometimes the composite of everything working together makes more sense.

Jeff didn't have a good game, but as you say, neither did the rest of the defense.

A W is a W no matter how those, to borrow a phrase, "pocket protector producing nerds" look at it.

Individuals can still have good games even if the entire offense or defense have a bad game. My son's middle school team sucks, but he's the best player on it. Has good games but not enough to overcome the other 10 ppl out there.

 

[stilltheguru]

In run support. And the corners got torched more than the safeties.

Who was responsible for the middle of the field being easy picking?

 

[jwooten15]

No he played better than the corners of the giants. And he might have had a better coverage grade but his run defense grade was literally worse in the NFL. So remember when you were in school. If you got a 0 then got a 100 your average was 50. His run defense grade was a 28

Dang, is that why I was so bad in school? I had no idea that's how it worked lol. I still disagree with you and PFF, but it's all good.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Dang, is that why I was so bad in school? I had no idea that's how it worked lol. I still disagree with you and PFF, but it's all good.

Ok but do you disagree bethea was good against the run. I seen him in there on a few plays. Heath literally took bad angles and was washed out all game. Bethea had a worse coverage grade than heath if that makes you feel better. You realize safety plays the run and pass

 

[jwooten15]

Ok but do you disagree bethea was good against the run. I seen him in there on a few plays. Heath literally took bad angles and was washed out all game. Bethea had a worse coverage grade than heath if that makes you feel better. You realize safety plays the run and pass

Of course Heath isn't a great safety, but I saw him as much more of a force than either of the Giants safeties - both in run and in the passing game. He's a LITTLE like OU Roy Williams used to be for us. He will take bad angles but when he gets there, he's gonna blow someone up and there's a good chance it'll be a big play.

I give more merit to the fact that Heath was part of a defense that basically gave up 10 points. The giants safeties were part of a defense that got absolutely shredded. They may have been somewhat more sound in run support, but they gave up 5 straight TDs and left the deep-middle of the field open all day long

 

[Hennessy_King]

Of course Heath isn't a great safety, but I saw him as much more of a force than either of the Giants safeties - both in run and in the passing game. He's a LITTLE like OU Roy Williams used to be for us. He will take bad angles but when he gets there, he's gonna blow someone up and there's a good chance it'll be a big play.

I give more merit to the fact that Heath was part of a defense that basically gave up 10 points. The giants safeties were part of a defense that got absolutely shredded. They may have been somewhat more sound in run support, but they gave up 5 straight TDs and left the deep-middle of the field open all day long

Ok...... If our offense didn't carry our defense yesterday they would have had more than 17 points and it would have been a very close game.

 

[Beaker42]

Hennessy, your game sucks and I don’t want to play anymore.

Let’s hope the Cowboys staff knows what PFF is and what his number means.

 

[garyo1954]

Individuals can still have good games even if the entire offense or defense have a bad game. My son's middle school team sucks, but he's the best player on it. Has good games but not enough to overcome the other 10 ppl out there.

This is true. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

 

[InTheZone]

people were blaming Heath for Barkleys run. Everyone on the Dl, including our Linebackers better be rated at the bottom of the league according to PFF, because if they're not how does the last line of defense get rated lower than the front 7 for run defense? Post those stats for a fair comparison.

And I don't remember Heath getting abused in the pass game, was he ever targeted like teams did Brandon Carr weekly?

 

[jwooten15]

Ok...... If our offense didn't carry our defense yesterday they would have had more than 17 points and it would have been a very close game.

Can't have superstars at every position, man. Heath is a playmaker and 10x better than Barry Church or even Byron Jones when he was a safety. You have it out for Heath and that's cool - but a bogus ratings metric isn't gonna convince me you're right

 

[Hennessy_King]

people were blaming Heath for Barkleys run. Everyone on the Dl, including our Linebackers better be rated at the bottom of the league according to PFF, because if they're not how does the last line of defense get rated lower than the front 7 for run defense? Post those stats for a fair comparison.

And I don't remember Heath getting abused in the pass game, was he ever targeted like teams did Brandon Carr weekly?

The LB and dline were not graded well if it makes you feel better.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Can't have superstars at every position, man. Heath is a playmaker and 10x better than Barry Church or even Byron Jones when he was a safety. You have it out for Heath and that's cool - but a bogus ratings metric isn't gonna convince me you're right

I don't have it out for heath. HE SUCKS!!! It's a cold hard fact. Are you banging his mom?

 

[jwooten15]

I don't have it out for heath. HE SUCKS!!! It's a cold hard fact. Are you banging his mom?

Find me a pic of her and I may consider it

 

[Hennessy_King]

Find me a pic of her and I may consider it

I like the way you think. Even if you think heath is good.

 

[MizzouCowboy4]

The defense was not good yesterday. My boy jourdan lewis graded 2nd overall at corner tho

Lewis rocks

Ohio

 

[EST_1986]

PFF hates Heath.

As do most fans

 

[America's Cowboy]

Don't go there LOL hindsight is always better after the fact.

Hindsight for most. I was one of the handful few who adamantly wanted S Juan Thornhill instead of DT Trysten Hill when the Cowboys were up during the 2nd round of the 2019 draft. Seeing Week 1's results for all Safeties truly stings.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Hindsight for most. I was one of the handful few who adamantly wanted S Juan Thornhill instead of DT Trysten Hill when the Cowboys were up during the 2nd round of the 2019 draft. Seeing Week 1's results for all Safeties truly stings.

Yup I was right there with you lol.