New HGH test emerges

[cowboyjoe]

New HGH test emerges
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 30, 2010 12:38 PM ET
Antidoping officials are touting a new way to test HGH, according to the New York Times.

The new method, which is described in detail here, would test for whether the person has used HGH over the past 10-14 days. The current test used only detects HGH use in the previous 24-48 hours.

The NFL said in a statement they are aware of the new test. In the past, the NFLPA has "expressed reservations" about the blood test used for HGH.

The NFL supports using a blood test. The new testing development is also a blood test, so it will be interesting to see their reaction to this test.

There doesn't seem to be a public outcry for better testing in the NFL, but surely it will be topic of discussion during the collective bargaining agreement talks over the next year.

 

[Hypnotoad]

I will take back everything negative i've ever said about that rat ******* goodell if he manages to fix all overtime, make enhancement drug testing in blood mandatory, and have full time officials.

 

[big dog cowboy]

and have full time officials.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[tunahelper]

They will not bring this to the NFL. The discovery of many players using HGH would make the NFL look like WWE.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Guess that means A-Rod will be suspended soon. :laugh2:

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

HGH - sheesh!

Why can't players just chow down a couple of steaks and 3 plates of pasta like they used to do in the good 'ol days?

 

[Doomsday101]

HGH - sheesh!

Why can't players just chow down a couple of steaks and 3 plates of pasta like they used to do in the good 'ol days?

With so much money involved guys look for any edge they can get. I do think it is the responsibility of the different sports league to do what they can to ensure the game is clean. No doubt some guys will find ways to beat the test but I think the leagues need to do the best they can.

 

[casmith07]

I think there's a broad misconception of HGH out there too - HGH merely helps your body recover faster from strain/damage. For example, patients recovering from surgeries are sometimes given HGH to jumpstart the natural healing process, and a lot of athletes use HGH because it shortens the recovery time of muscles. You could pound weights and be super-sore, take HGH, and in theory recover and be back to full strength with the natural muscle repair process faster than normal.

As far as I know from the research I've done, HGH doesn't boost strength like steroids does by anabolically boosting muscle growth. It simply acts like a turbocharger for the natural muscle rebuilding process.

If anyone more medically inclined than me sees something that I'm saying that's wrong, by all means jump in and clear it up.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think there's a broad misconception of HGH out there too - HGH merely helps your body recover faster from strain/damage. For example, patients recovering from surgeries are sometimes given HGH to jumpstart the natural healing process, and a lot of athletes use HGH because it shortens the recovery time of muscles. You could pound weights and be super-sore, take HGH, and in theory recover and be back to full strength with the natural muscle repair process faster than normal.

As far as I know from the research I've done, HGH doesn't boost strength like steroids does by anabolically boosting muscle growth. It simply acts like a turbocharger for the natural muscle rebuilding process.

If anyone more medically inclined than me sees something that I'm saying that's wrong, by all means jump in and clear it up.

No miscomception HGH is a Growth hormone and guys abusing it are doing to to add muscle.

 

[kmp77]

HGH - sheesh!

Why can't players just chow down a couple of steaks and 3 plates of pasta like they used to do in the good 'ol days?

Whatcha talking abou Willis?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think there's a broad misconception of HGH out there too - HGH merely helps your body recover faster from strain/damage. For example, patients recovering from surgeries are sometimes given HGH to jumpstart the natural healing process, and a lot of athletes use HGH because it shortens the recovery time of muscles. You could pound weights and be super-sore, take HGH, and in theory recover and be back to full strength with the natural muscle repair process faster than normal.

As far as I know from the research I've done, HGH doesn't boost strength like steroids does by anabolically boosting muscle growth. It simply acts like a turbocharger for the natural muscle rebuilding process.

If anyone more medically inclined than me sees something that I'm saying that's wrong, by all means jump in and clear it up.

Steroids also helps your muscles recover. The whole idea behind getting your muscles to recover faster is so that you can keep moving a lot of weight to bulk up. Most people who don't use steroids or HGH or any other performance enhancing drugs have to allow 36 hours of recovery to build muscle. HGH and the like gets rid of that need.

 

[gmoney112]

I think there's a broad misconception of HGH out there too - HGH merely helps your body recover faster from strain/damage. For example, patients recovering from surgeries are sometimes given HGH to jumpstart the natural healing process, and a lot of athletes use HGH because it shortens the recovery time of muscles. You could pound weights and be super-sore, take HGH, and in theory recover and be back to full strength with the natural muscle repair process faster than normal.

As far as I know from the research I've done, HGH doesn't boost strength like steroids does by anabolically boosting muscle growth. It simply acts like a turbocharger for the natural muscle rebuilding process.

If anyone more medically inclined than me sees something that I'm saying that's wrong, by all means jump in and clear it up.

You are right. You're not going to gain much, if any, strength while using HGH. But don't tell the uneducated masses that, they hear "growth hormone" and think it's automatically equivalent to a gram of testosterone weekly. And no HGH is not a steroid, it isn't anabolic or androgenic in nature at all. HGH is mostly used in rehabilitation processes because of the muscle rebuilding and effectiveness in reclaiming bone density and knee/joint repair.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You are right. You're not going to gain much, if any, strength while using HGH. But don't tell the uneducated masses that, they hear "growth hormone" and think it's automatically equivalent to a gram of testosterone weekly. And no HGH is not a steroid, it isn't anabolic or androgenic in nature at all. HGH is mostly used in rehabilitation processes because of the muscle rebuilding and effectiveness in reclaiming bone density and knee/joint repair.

Which gives you an advantage in building muscle and becoming bigger and stronger and faster than someone who doesn't.

 

[gmoney112]

Which gives you an advantage in building muscle and becoming bigger and stronger and faster than someone who doesn't.

Repair. As in muscle memory when coming off injury. A guy in his late 20's, early 30's taking HGH that does not have a serious injury and is not doing extensive rehabilitation will not see any additional benefit of HGH supplementation.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Repair. As in muscle memory when coming off injury. A guy in his late 20's, early 30's taking HGH that does not have a serious injury and is not doing extensive rehabilitation will not see any additional benefit of HGH supplementation.

Tell that to Barry Bonds.

 

[gmoney112]

Tell that to Barry Bonds.

He was on something called, "The Clear". An anabolic steroid that was not tested.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Repair. As in muscle memory when coming off injury. A guy in his late 20's, early 30's taking HGH that does not have a serious injury and is not doing extensive rehabilitation will not see any additional benefit of HGH supplementation.

That doesn't make sense. HGH is secreted naturally during stage 3/4 sleep (up until early 30s). It's purposes are to help recover the body physically. Not just huge injuries, but aches and muscle fatigue. So if a person takes additional HGH they are increasing their physical recovery. They are able to work out harder and get stronger. They are at a huge advantage no matter the age. There are just more benefits for older players since they can keep up with the young.

 

[Rhubarb]

Technically you guys are all right - hgh CAN grow muscle but it usually doesn't do it dramatically unless it's combined with an anabolic steroid. What it's great at solo is collagen synthesis - repair of cartilage primarily. It can strengthen the joints like no other. There are some strength gains in that regards due to igf-1 expression as well.

That's how they'll probably test for it. HGH raises igf-1 through the roof.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Technically you guys are all right - hgh CAN grow muscle but it usually doesn't do it dramatically unless it's combined with an anabolic steroid. What it's great at solo is collagen synthesis - repair of cartilage primarily. It can strengthen the joints like no other. There are some strength gains in that regards due to igf-1 expression as well.

That's how they'll probably test for it. HGH raises igf-1 through the roof.

I asked an expert this before (2 years ago?) but I cant recall what they said exactly...

There have been tests for the HGH for quite a while now. It can only be tested through a blood test. The information I was told was that, HGH doesn't filter through the kidney so it doesn't come out in urine. It can't be detected in urine and that is the only thing the NFLPA allows to be tested.

 

[Rhubarb]

That's true - that's how you have to test for igf-1 itself. Not sure how they'll be able to do it with a urine test.