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[TheSport78]

1st round: OT Tyron Smith, USC

2nd round: DE Cameron Heyward, Ohio State

3rd round: S Deunta Williams, North Carolina

4th round: ILB Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina

5th round: CB Korey Lindsey-Woods, Southern Illinois

6th round: FB Henry Hynoski, Pittsburgh

7th round: OLB Bruce Miller, UCF

 

[AKATheRake]

I'm hating on this Tyron Smith.

I just can't get over using a 9th overall pick on him.

I hope this future dud gets picked first overall.

It won't happen but I wish.

I'm sure someone is going to come after me.

Can't stand this pick, that's all. Even at the bottom of round 1.

Someone show me why he is talked about this highly. Please!

I'll take Wilkerson on a trade up from our 2nd rounder also over Cameron Heyward.

Round 3 and 6, yes please because those 2 will be worthy starters before the first 2 are, unless we are still a team that starts players on status as opposed to merit.

That's saying a lot since the safety is recovering from injury.

We're the only team with a top 10 pick even talking about Tyron Smith.

 

[NeonNinja]

I'm hating on this Tyron Smith.

I just can't get over using a 9th overall pick on him.

I hope this future dud gets picked first overall.

It won't happen but I wish.

I'm sure someone is going to come after me.

Can't stand this pick, that's all. Even at the bottom of round 1.

Someone show me why he is talked about this highly. Please!

I'll take Wilkerson on a trade up from our 2nd rounder also over Cameron Heyward.

Round 3 and 6, yes please.

Why do you hate him?

 

[TheDallasDon]

I like it alot

 

[AKATheRake]

Why do you hate him?

I don't hate him. I hate drafting him with our 9th overall pick.

I don't see why he should be picked 9th overall.

There will be much better players, but he's the flavor of the last week.

I hear about how chiseled he is and this so-called potential.

Where is the evidence other than pictures with his shirt off?

Like, whatever footage I have seen, I don't even see his impact.

He's pretty decent in pass coverage playing right tackle at USC.

Like decent. Not great, not dominating and certainly not pancaking anyone.

9th overall?

This has to be a shill smoke screen.

 

[TheSport78]

I'm hating on this Tyron Smith.

I just can't get over using a 9th overall pick on him.

I hope this future dud gets picked first overall.

It won't happen but I wish.

I'm sure someone is going to come after me.

Can't stand this pick, that's all. Even at the bottom of round 1.

Someone show me why he is talked about this highly. Please!

I'll take Wilkerson on a trade up from our 2nd rounder also over Cameron Heyward.

Round 3 and 6, yes please because those 2 will be worthy starters before the first 2 are, unless we are still a team that starts players on status as opposed to merit.

That's saying a lot since the safety is recovering from injury.

We're the only team with a top 10 pick even talking about Tyron Smith.

In my opinion, Jerry has neglected the importance of the offensive line in the draft for way too long now. Offensive linemen are used to not being sexy picks, but they make EVERYONE around them better. If Tyron Smith has a great Pro Day, which he probably will, he'll be projected as a top 15 pick. The kid is 20 years old with potential through the roof. His frame isn't even maxed out yet and he's almost 310 lbs now.

Tyron Smith = allows Felix Jones to get the ball in space more due to Smith's athleticism

Tyron Smith = allows more time in the pocket for Tony Romo to find his weapons in Miles, Dez and Witten

Tyron Smith = could be your franchise tackle for the next 10 years

Also, this is a VERY deep defensive line class, and to draft a 3-4 DE with the 9th overall pick, in a deep class, would be insane. The value isn't there for OL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Pull the trigger on a franchise tackle to make everyone on offense better.

 

[TheSport78]

There will be much better players, but he's the flavor of the last week.

Who, in your opinion, will be better at the #9 spot?

 

[AKATheRake]

I hear guys say how drafting a 3-4 D-lineman who can play any spot on the front isn't worth a 9th overall pick but please tell me when a under weight Right tackle who's coming off knee surgery is?

Nobody coming off knee surgery should be gaining weight. I don't care who your doctor is and/or who your trainer is.

You ask any doctor treating a patient for knee surgery if gaining weight in any way is positively condusive to making a speedy and successful recovery.

9th overall? The kid needs to be starting and looking like a future stud by week 8. Give me a break.

 

[TheSport78]

I hear guys say how drafting a 3-4 D-lineman who can play any spot on the front isn't worth a 9th overall pick but please tell me when a under weight Right tackle who's coming off knee surgery is?

Nobody coming off knee surgery should be gaining weight. I don't care who your doctor is and/or who your trainer is.

You ask any doctor treating a patient for knee surgery if gaining weight in any way is positively condusive to making a speedy and successful recovery.

9th overall? The kid needs to be starting and looking like a future stud by week 8. Give me a break.

Dude, Smith didn't have surgery. They drained some fluid out of his knee so an injury wouldn't happen. Did you even think that maybe he gained weight because he was in the WEIGHT ROOM, working his butt off? You know, when he put up 29 reps of 225 at 309 lbs? Come on, dude.

 

[AKATheRake]

In my opinion, Jerry has neglected the importance of the offensive line in the draft for way too long now. Offensive linemen are used to not being sexy picks, but they make EVERYONE around them better. If Tyron Smith has a great Pro Day, which he probably will, he'll be projected as a top 15 pick. The kid is 20 years old with potential through the roof. His frame isn't even maxed out yet and he's almost 310 lbs now.

Tyron Smith = allows Felix Jones to get the ball in space more due to Smith's athleticism

Tyron Smith = allows more time in the pocket for Tony Romo to find his weapons in Miles, Dez and Witten

Tyron Smith = could be your franchise tackle for the next 10 years

Also, this is a VERY deep defensive line class, and to draft a 3-4 DE with the 9th overall pick, in a deep class, would be insane. The value isn't there for OL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Pull the trigger on a franchise tackle to make everyone on offense better.

You're right in saying that we don't draft o-linemen early enough.

You're right saying that good o-linemen make everyone offensively around them better.

Historically we have not drafted o-line early and there are years I could see why an years that I can't see why.

This year, the value is late first down. Not top 10. Not even the top 20.

I rather look for a RT in FA if we cant trade up with our 2nd or land a good one with our 2nd.

I know we can get a hell of a guard or center with our 2nd.

What the hell has Tyron Smith done to prove he's made the players around him better?

 

[TheSport78]

You're right in saying that we don't draft o-linemen early enough.

You're right saying that good o-linemen make everyone offensively around them better.

Historically we have not drafted o-line early and there are years I could see why an years that I can't see why.

This year, the value is late first down. Not top 10. Not even the top 20.

I rather look for a RT in FA if we cant trade up with our 2nd or land a good one with our 2nd.

I know we can get a hell of a guard or center with our 2nd.

What the hell has Tyron Smith done to prove he's made the players around him better?

With that logic, it's hard to discuss this with you, man. Him winning the Morris Trophy last year as the conference's top offensive lineman means nothing I guess, right? Because you don't think he's worth a top 10 pick? Forget what all the scouts and GMs say about the guy, right? You just don't like Tyron Smith because it isn't a sexy pick. Jerry has invested too much in OL in free agency and has gotten BURNED for it.

Re-signing Flozell = fail

Leonard Davis = overpaid for a guard

Kyle Kosier = steady but injury prone

Marco Rivera = BUST

It's time to invest in the OL in the 1st round. Romo's recovery and future deserves it.

You didn't answer my first question. Who is better at the #9 spot?

 

[AKATheRake]

Who, in your opinion, will be better at the #9 spot?

Peterson
Fairley
Dareus
Miller
Bowers
Quinn

I would say the 2 WR's but we don't need them and we don't need Miller, Bowers or Quinn. We do need a tackle more, but at least those players will be something before most of the tackles in this draft.

Unfortunately none of the o-linemen are worthy of a top 10 pick otherwise I would be 1 of the posters going after 1 in the top 10. Telling people to trade up if we have to because it is a huge need.

The draft doesn't fulfill is properly at # 9 but maybe # 40. FA is another option along with # 40.

We need a bonafide stud for the next 8 years at #9. Too many questions with Smith. No proven credentials.

 

[TheSport78]

Peterson
Fairley
Dareus
Miller
Bowers
Quinn

Peterson- won't be there

Fairley- won't be there

Dareus - may be there but probably not

Miller- definitely won't be there

Bowers- won't be there

Quinn- may be there but Spencer gets one more year and Jerry won't draft a guy like Quinn who won't have an immediate impact

 

[AKATheRake]

With that logic, it's hard to discuss this with you, man. Him winning the Morris Trophy last year as the conference's top offensive lineman means nothing I guess, right? Because you don't think he's worth a top 10 pick? Forget what all the scouts and GMs say about the guy, right? You just don't like Tyron Smith because it isn't a sexy pick. Jerry has invested too much in OL in free agency and has gotten BURNED for it.

Re-signing Flozell = fail

Leonard Davis = overpaid for a guard

Kyle Kosier = steady but injury prone

Marco Rivera = BUST

It's time to invest in the OL in the 1st round. Romo's recovery and future deserves it.

You didn't answer my first question. Who is better at the #9 spot?

No, you're not listening.

This just isn't the year to use a top 10 pick for that position man.

You're right saying that these guys in FA cost big bucks. They do and it would be better if we could draft and develop them.

Top 10 this year is not the year to do it. It just isn't.

When Parcells re-signed Flozell, that was not a fail.

The first 3 seasons Bigg played for us, not a fail.

Kosier, for the money as you said is even.

Marco Rivera, freak fail. The guy did come off consecutive pro bowls and had the type of leadership we need on the line.

I rather be able to draft these guys in the first but we're top 10 this year and there's no one viable.

2nd round and preferably trade up if Carimi is there at 28.

We go 6-10 to trade out of the top 10 when this draft's strength is d-line and we only have 1 DE out of 4 signed for this season only?

To drop another 7-15 spots?

Wow!

 

[TheSport78]

No, you're not listening.

This just isn't the year to use a top 10 pick for that position man.

You're right saying that these guys in FA cost big bucks. They do and it would be better if we could draft and develop them.

Top 10 this year is not the year to do it. It just isn't.

When Parcells re-signed Flozell, that was not a fail.

The first 3 seasons Bigg played for us, not a fail.

Kosier, for the money as you said is even.

Marco Rivera, freak fail. The guy did come off consecutive pro bowls and had the type of leadership we need on the line.

I rather be able to draft these guys in the first but we're top 10 this year and there's no one viable.

2nd round and preferably trade up if Carimi is there at 28.

We go 6-10 to trade out of the top 10 when this draft's strength is d-line and we only have 1 DE out of 4 signed for this season only?

To drop another 7-15 spots?

Wow!

Is there a big difference between Tyron Smith and Gabe Carimi?

To me there is, for one reason: potential. Carimi will NEVER be a left tackle in the NFL, but I believe Tyron Smith will be.

Is there a big difference between JJ Watt/Cam Jordan and Cameron Heyward?

The answer is no. If a position is deep, you don't reach for that position in the first top ten picks. You go for value. This is not a deep offensive line class. Gabe Carimi doesn't give you flexibility. He is ONLY a right tackle. He's not big enough to slide inside to guard, and he won't play left tackle. You want to invest a first round pick in a one position player? I sure don't.

You said it yourself: this draft's strength is DL, so why reach for one in the top ten when you can get a solid DE in the 2nd or 3rd round? The value isn't there for DL in the first. Get your franchise OT when you can in a weak OL class; we won't be in this position (in the top ten) for a while (hopefully).

 

[AKATheRake]

Peterson- won't be there

Fairley- won't be there

Dareus - may be there but probably not

Miller- definitely won't be there

Bowers- won't be there

Quinn- may be there but Spencer gets one more year and Jerry won't draft a guy like Quinn who won't have an immediate impact

So not 1 QB and at least 1 WR not taken in the top 10?

We can't move up a spot or 2 for the right player?

Look, my short list is Peterson, Fairley and Dareus. The other guys are useful and worthy of top 10.

I'm the first to say I wouldn't want to bench Spencer.

I know 85% of those guys won't be there. We're drafting in the first 10% of the draft. Of course it's a fine line.

Tyorn Smith is not worth a top 10 pick and if somehow he ends up top 10 I hope someone before us take him. Won't happen though.

 

[AKATheRake]

Is there a big difference between Tyron Smith and Gabe Carimi?

To me there is, for one reason: potential. Carimi will NEVER be a left tackle in the NFL, but I believe Tyron Smith will be.

Is there a big difference between JJ Watt/Cam Jordan and Cameron Heyward?

The answer is no. If a position is deep, you don't reach for that position in the first top ten picks. You go for value. This is not a deep offensive line class. Gabe Carimi doesn't give you flexibility. He is ONLY a right tackle. He's not big enough to slide inside to guard, and he won't play left tackle. You want to invest a first round pick in a one position player? I sure don't.

You said it yourself: this draft's strength is DL, so why reach for one in the top ten when you can get a solid DE in the 2nd or 3rd round? The value isn't there for DL in the first. Get your franchise OT when you can in a weak OL class; we won't be in this position (in the top ten) for a while (hopefully).

Nobody is looking to reach for a DL. 1 will be there or a corner or a pass rushing LB.

1 that is worthy of a top 10 pick.

Defensively, we can use any of those and defense is our biggest problem overall.

I know we need to get our o-line shored up. I keep telling you I wish there was a viable top 10 pick there but there is not.

So if we can get a difference maker at a need on defense so be it.

Go to the 2nd round or late first for the o-line help where the value is there.

Unreal! You're not hearing me.

The difference between Carimi and Smith? you can see Smith playing LT though he has not in college. His footwork would say he would play LT though.

Carimi has played LT and is actually more versatile. Can play guard too. I don't need a LT, Doug Free is there. Proven and is going to get some money to do so too.

Carimi won't have to be chosen as high and Carimi we know will play RT to our needs.

I can only see Smith as this special tackle because everyone talks about the spread offense. In that type of offense O-lines needs guys who can get out in space more often and hold guys up. Not run over them.

Well, if we're going to spread offense than okay but this guy is not going to help our running game unless we're running out of the spread constantly.

Carimi is agile enough and football smart enough to perform both ways. But I wouldn't take him top 10 or 20 either. None of these o-linemen are worth it.

 

[TheSport78]

Nobody is looking to reach for a DL. 1 will be there or a corner or a pass rushing LB.

1 that is worthy of a top 10 pick.

Defensively, we can use any of those and defense is our biggest problem overall.

I know we need to get our o-line shored up. I keep telling you I wish there was a viable top 10 pick there but there is not.

So if we can get a difference maker at a need on defense so be it.

Go to the 2nd round or late first for the o-line help where the value is there.

Unreal! You're not hearing me.

The difference between Carimi and Smith? you can see Smith playing LT though he has not in college. His footwork would say he would play LT though.

Carimi has played LT and is actually more versatile. Can play guard too. I don't need a LT, Doug Free is there. Proven and is going to get some money to do so too.

Carimi won't have to be chosen as high and Carimi we know will play RT to our needs.

I can only see Smith as this special tackle because everyone talks about the spread offense. O-lines needs guys who can get out in space more often and hold guys up. Not run over them.

Well, if we're going to spread offense than okay but this guy is not going to help our running game unless we're running out of the spread constantly.

Carimi is agile enough and football smart enough to perform both ways. But I wouldn't take him top 10 or 20 either. None of these o-linemen are worth it.

No, you're not hearing me.

We aren't drafting an OLB with our 1st rounder. Understand that. Amukamara is the CB everyone has us taking, but I'm not high on the guy. I don't see much of a difference between him and Aaron Williams from Texas. Every time Amukamara went up against elite competition, he got burned. We have enough of those CB's currently in Dallas.

In your OPINION, there's no one viable of a top ten for the offensive line. Scouts and GM's disagree with you, and sorry, but I'm going to side with the experts, who say that Tyron Smith will be a franchise tackle for 8-10 years.

Carimi = will not be more versatile in the NFL

Will NOT play guard and will NOT play left tackle. Understand that. He's a RT; nothing more.

The value is NOT THERE in the 2nd and 3rd round for the offensive line. How many times do I have to say that this is a very weak offensive line class!

Doug Free is proven? He's played left tackle one year and played pretty well, but you don't pass when you have a GLARING NEED at offensive tackle. Remember when we thought we had our every down back in Marion Barber, or our safety problems were solved with Ken Hamlin? Fail. You don't invest in players after one year of service. It's burned Jerry before and probably will again. I'm done lol.

 

[AKATheRake]

No, you're not hearing me.

We aren't drafting an OLB with our 1st rounder. Understand that. Amukamara is the CB everyone has us taking, but I'm not high on the guy. I don't see much of a difference between him and Aaron Williams from Texas. Every time Amukamara went up against elite competition, he got burned. We have enough of those CB's currently in Dallas.

In your OPINION, there's no one viable of a top ten for the offensive line. Scouts and GM's disagree with you, and sorry, but I'm going to side with the experts, who say that Tyron Smith will be a franchise tackle for 8-10 years.

Carimi = will not be more versatile in the NFL

Will NOT play guard and will NOT play left tackle. Understand that. He's a RT; nothing more.

The value is NOT THERE in the 2nd and 3rd round for the offensive line. How many times do I have to say that this is a very weak offensive line class!

Doug Free is proven? He's played left tackle one year and played pretty well, but you don't pass when you have a GLARING NEED at offensive tackle. Remember when we thought we had our every down back in Marion Barber, or our safety problems were solved with Ken Hamlin? Fail. You don't invest in players after one year of service. It's burned Jerry before and probably will again. I'm done lol.

I'm the last guy who wants Amukamara. I'm the last guy to say we need an OLB with our first pick. I'm even more so the last guy to say there's an O-linemen that is worth a top 10 pick in this class.

You asked who would I rather have over Tyron Smith and I gave you 6-7 players with our 9th pick.

I also gave you my short list of 3 players who are the players I actually want from pick 9-7 if we have to trade up to get 1.

You talk of Tyron Smith and how experts think he will be this franshise tackle for the next 8-10 years?

Hahahaha! Wow! Do you realize what a franchise tackle for 8-10 years looks like? Willie Roaf, Jonathan Ogeden, Orlando Pace and Walter Jones. Joe Thomas and Jake Long look like they may get there also.

You're getting so far ahead of yourself with this Tyron Smith. 8-10 year franchise tackle. Hahahaha!

Give me a break.

Look, you wanna be head strong about this guy 9th overall, no problem but cut the Mike Mularkey.

What expert has put his reputation on the line to say this guy is going to be a 8-10 year franchise tackle and is worthy of a top 10 pick?

I would be shocked if Tyron Smith has even half the career Flozell Adams had. Believe me, Flozell Adams had a heck of a career compared to most LT's that have played at the NFL level.

He's as close to Franchise as we've gotten at LT for the past decade. Tyron Smith is not even in his league.

Unreal!

 

[TheSport78]

I'm the last guy who wants Amukamara. I'm the last guy to say we need an OLB with our first pick. I'm even more so the last guy to say there's an O-linemen that is worth a top 10 pick in this class.

You asked who would I rather have over Tyron Smith and I gave you 6-7 players with our 9th pick.

I also gave you my short list of 3 players who are the players I actually want from pick 9-7 if we have to trade up to get 1.

You talk of Tyron Smith and how experts think he will be this franshise tackle for the next 8-10 years?

Hahahaha! Wow! Do you realize what a franchise tackle for 8-10 years looks like? Willie Roaf, Jonathan Ogeden, Orlando Pace and Walter Jones. Joe Thomas and Jake Long look like they may get there also.

You're getting so far ahead of yourself with this Tyron Smith. 8-10 year franchise tackle. Hahahaha!

Give me a break.

Look, you wanna be head strong about this guy 9th overall, no problem but cut the Mike Mularkey.

What expert has put his reputation on the line to say this guy is going to be a 8-10 year franchise tackle and is worthy of a top 10 pick?

Unreal!

There's no need to be rude, dude.

You gave me 6-7 players who won't be there at #9. Good job.

Right, let's trade up because the Cowboys don't have many holes on this roster. We're only one player away from a Super Bowl. Oh wait...fail.

So now you know what measurables a franchise left tackle endures?

Joe Thomas, who is a franchise left tackle, isn't 6'6" and 312 pounds, right?

Oh wait, HE IS! It's possible to be 6'6", 312 pounds, and be a franchise left tackle? Wow!

Tyron Smith= one inch shorter than Thomas and weighs three pounds less, without a strength and conditioning program in the NFL. You fail again.

Seriously, why should the Cowboys even draft certain players when AKAtheRake knows it's a terrible selection? Please.

Mike Mayock, one of the most respectable draft analysts, is high on Smith and will definitely be at his Pro Day.