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[realtick]

Someone show me why he is talked about this highly. Please!

How does someone even answer this?

"Show me why he is talked about...?"

Makes about as much sense as this...

[youtube]9n46CtDmKOg[/youtube]

 

[TheSport78]

How does someone even answer this?

"Show me why he is talked about...?"

Makes about as much sense as this...

[youtube]9n46CtDmKOg[/youtube]

:laugh2: I fell out of my chair!

 

[AKATheRake]

How does someone even answer this?

"Show me why he is talked about...?"

Makes about as much sense as this...

[youtube]9n46CtDmKOg[/youtube]

You got something to show about Rebecca De mornay.

Where's the stuff to show me why Tyron Smith should be the 9th overall pick in the draft?

I'm sure you can work harder and smarter towards the topic we're discussing since you can put such an effort towards finding movie clips.

Where's the football clip?

I'm here for football, not tea and crumpets with the girls realtick.

You got a lady saying what you would like to say for you brah?

Show me the football footage.

Nevermind your guys statements. Where's the evidence?

Tyron Smith being worthy of the 9th overall pick.

Where is the evidence?

 

[TheSport78]

You got something to show about Rebecca De mornay.

Where's the stuff to show me why Tyron Smith should be the 9th overall pick in the draft?

I'm sure you can work harder and smarter towards the topic we're discussing since you can put such an effort towards finding movie clips.

Where's the football clip?

I'm here for football, not tea and crumpets with the girls realtick.

You got a lady saying what you would like to say for you brah?

Show me the football footage.

Nevermind your guys statements. Where's the evidence?

Tyron Smith being worthy of the 9th overall pick.

Where is the evidence?

Evidence? The draft is a crapshoot. All you can do is evaluate based on film, the interview process, the combine and Pro Day. There's no "evidence."

IN MY OPINION and other opinions of GMs and scouts, he's worthy of our selection because IF HE PANS OUT, just like ANY OTHER player in the draft, he would make everyone on our offense better and fills a very important need on the OL.

There's NO sure thing in the draft, even Patrick Peterson or Nick Fairley.

 

[AKATheRake]

There's no need to be rude, dude.

You gave me 6-7 players who won't be there at #9. Good job.

Right, let's trade up because the Cowboys don't have many holes on this roster. We're only one player away from a Super Bowl. Oh wait...fail.

So now you know what measurables a franchise left tackle endures?

Joe Thomas, who is a franchise left tackle, isn't 6'6" and 312 pounds, right?

Oh wait, HE IS! It's possible to be 6'6", 312 pounds, and be a franchise left tackle? Wow!

Tyron Smith= one inch shorter than Thomas and weighs three pounds less, without a strength and conditioning program in the NFL. You fail again.

Seriously, why should the Cowboys even draft certain players when AKAtheRake knows it's a terrible selection? Please.

Mike Mayock, one of the most respectable draft analysts, is high on Smith and will definitely be at his Pro Day.

If I was rude sorry my man. Really not the intentions.

I do respect the debate, the efforts and the belief you seem to have regarding this pick.

Right or wrong, it does seem genuine.

Unfortunately unfounded though.

So Mike Mayock says he's worthy of the #9 pick since when? Who else?

Joe Thomas is of the dimensions you mention and actually walks around that size naturally.

Your boy Tyron does not.

Your boy Tyron is not even in the same league as Joe Thomas.

The size thing is not my only quam and probably not even my biggest regarding Tyron Smith.

I just don't see what he has done at RT to garner a 9th overall pick.

You still have not shown me any footage or tangible evidence other than talking about the weight he could possibly put on and hold and his supposed potential.

Oh, and all these supposed experts who can't see him anywhere but a top 10 pick.

So please, I ask 1 last time.

In all respect. Where is this evidence that Tyron Smith offers what a top 10 pick should?

Yes, I did give you 6 guys that should be in the top 10. Not 1 of them did you question if they should be there. At least 1-2 will be there by our pick and worthy of it.

 

[TheSport78]

If I was rude sorry my man. Really not the intentions.

I do respect the debate, the efforts and the belief you seem to have regarding this pick.

Right or wrong, it does seem genuine.

Unfortunately unfounded though.

So Mike Mayock says he's worthy of the #9 pick since when? Who else?

Joe Thomas is of the dimensions you mention and actually walks around that size naturally.

Your boy Tyron does not.

Your boy Tyron is not even in the same league as Joe Thomas.

The size thing is not my only quam and probably not even my biggest regarding Tyron Smith.

I just don't see what he has done at RT to garner a 9th overall pick.

You still have not shown me any footage or tangible evidence other than talking about the weight he could possibly put on and hold and his supposed potential.

Oh, and all these supposed experts who can't see him anywhere but a top 10 pick.

So please, I ask 1 last time.

In all respect. Where is this evidence that Tyron Smith offers what a top 10 pick should?

Yes, I did give you 6 guys that should be in the top 10. Not 1 of them did you question if they should be there. At least 1-2 will be there by our pick and worthy of it.

There are so many errors in this post. I don't know where to begin. I almost stopped reading when the said Joe Thomas "walks around that size naturally?" What does that even mean?!?! Tyron isn't natural? Huh? You totally disregarded my last post and how I explained there's no "evidence" when it comes to the draft, so no more time wasting. On that note, I'm going to bed.

 

[realtick]

You mean whether or not Tyron Smith can play OT is determined on my ability to provide you with game clips of him?

I mean, are you really insinuating Tyron Smith can't play because you can't find a YouTube clip of him?

 

[AKATheRake]

Evidence? The draft is a crapshoot. All you can do is evaluate based on film, the interview process, the combine and Pro Day. There's no "evidence."

IN MY OPINION and other opinions of GMs and scouts, he's worthy of our selection because IF HE PANS OUT, just like ANY OTHER player in the draft, he would make everyone on our offense better and fills a very important need on the OL.

There's NO sure thing in the draft, even Patrick Peterson or Nick Fairley.

There is no sure thing in the draft. Correct, but some surer than others and I have outlined 6 players I am positive are surer than Tyron Smith.

When evaluating top 10 picks, you have to take out as much risk as possible.

You don't select players on the "if he pans out" factor. Not with a top 10 pick and hopefully not with a 1st rounder.

You look for a player you are encouraged can work within your system and be a starter very soon as long as they are to earn it in camp.

Not this "if he pans out" mentality.

A players ceiling definitely needs to be of great interest when drafting but once again. A top 10 pick needs to be a starter and a difference maker otherwise you can really hurt your teams.

That's a big salary to put on your roster and not one to move before 4 years. You're stuck with that player for a good 4 years and if not past that it's a huge waste.

Hard to start a player before that pick.

"What if" is absolutely out of the equation drafting top 10.

 

[AKATheRake]

You mean whether or not Tyron Smith can play OT is determined on my ability to provide you with game clips of him?

I mean, are you really insinuating Tyron Smith can't play because you can't find a YouTube clip of him?

I'll make it as clear as I originally did.

Since reaching for Tyron Smith at #9 is not the only thing you obviously reach for.

EVIDENCE. RATIONAL. INFORMATION

Other than statements that are not backed up by facts but opinion.

Heck, information other than this "potential" statement and his physical figure.

That can be in the form of viable game footage, that can be in the form of expert analysis. that can even be in the form of what yourself can cross reference about his ability to play the game and where you have seen it.

I have not received any of that from you. A little more from the OP but you? Zero, Rebecca De mornay.

Lol! what are you insinuating?

That football footage is of no help in translating to what a draftee's game may or may not be?

Please! You're already reaching for Tyron Smith and you don't even know why.

Don't reach with me when you have nothing to back up the half statements you let others make for you.

Do you even have a point or offer any value regarding Tyron Smith's possible worth as a top 10 pick?

That is the subject here.

 

[AKATheRake]

There are so many errors in this post. I don't know where to begin. I almost stopped reading when the said Joe Thomas "walks around that size naturally?" What does that even mean?!?! Tyron isn't natural? Huh? You totally disregarded my last post and how I explained there's no "evidence" when it comes to the draft, so no more time wasting. On that note, I'm going to bed.

Didn't disregard your post at all.

I directly answered to your "evidence" statement.

Yes, Joe Thomas does not have do much other than work out to remain his noted weight.

He's actually always been close to that weight.

That's natural.

Tyron Smith has to add weight which a lot of football players do. Working out, eating different, taking weight gainers etc, etc.

307 is not Tyron Smith's natural weight, he's deliberately put it on for the draft and is still subject to see if he can keep it on.

These are facts, not opinion, not insinuations. More reaching to circle around the points I've made actually.

You can't answer any of m,y questions or statements.

Still no evidence, information or rational.

Good night Sport78.

Good call on Reds little brother staying on this staff.

 

[realtick]

Wow, this is interesting stuff.

Never seen someone so worked up over the mere thought of drafting a player (outside of Speedy's incessant desire to draft Mark Ingram w/our first pick).

It's funny that you're lashing out at me when I've made no comment on drafting Tyron Smith or not.

I simply pointed out how ridiculous the notion of telling someone to "show me why he's talked about..."

In your knee-jerk reaction, I think you've lumped me into Tyron Smith bandwagon.

Here's a question for you: Have you actually seen him play in an actual game? I'll expect you to be honest.

Seems to me your arguments are all based from silence..."why haven't we heard of him before the combine...show me the evidence of why he's so good...what experts have talked about him..."

At this point I'm getting a strong sense of disingenuity from you. I have to believe if someone did provide you with all the so-called evidence you seek, you would just dismiss it out-of-hand because you have your mind already made up about this player.

 

[AKATheRake]

Wow, this is interesting stuff.

Never seen someone so worked up over the mere thought of drafting a player (outside of Speedy's incessant desire to draft Mark Ingram w/our first pick).

It's funny that you're lashing out at me when I've made no comment on drafting Tyron Smith or not.

I simply pointed out how ridiculous the notion of telling someone to "show me why he's talked about..."

In your knee-jerk reaction, I think you've lumped me into Tyron Smith bandwagon.

Here's a question for you: Have you actually seen him play in an actual game? I'll expect you to be honest.

Seems to me your arguments are all based from silence..."why haven't we heard of him before the combine...show me the evidence of why he's so good...what experts have talked about him..."

At this point I'm getting a strong sense of disingenuity from you. I have to believe if someone did provide you with all the so-called evidence you seek, you would just dismiss it out-of-hand because you have your mind already made up about this player.

realtick, anything conducive to offer regarding Tyron Smith as a viable 9th overall pick or not?

You just run around and run around when i give you every opportunity.

You rather talk about anything than why he's a viable 9th overall pick.

It's that simple.

Why?

This isn't social services bro.

It's football blogging and analysis on a player we're dealing with.

I don't have any interest in your weak attempt of psychological tinkering. It's very weak and you have approached me with no reason other than the aforementioned.

Even weaker than your offering to this subject.

So do you have any reason to why Tyron Smith is worthy of our 9th overall pick or what?

I've made it very clear previously why I don't want him at #9 and why.

You got nothing conducive to offer as to why he should be #9.

That is the subject here once again.

If you can't seem to grasp this after re-iterating this several times than what's one to do with you buddy?

Lashing out and worked up. Lol! Just give the info. You can't because you have none available.

You offer no resources but a Rebecca De mornay clip and than bash using youtube.

Carry on as I do not find you anywhere as interesting as you say you find me.

 

[realtick]

Right, so since you tried to skate through my questions, I'll ask them again so no one who may have stumbled onto the thread might be fooled into thinking you actually answered anything.

1. Have you actually seen him play in an actual game? I'll expect you to be honest.

2. You mean whether or not Tyron Smith can play OT is determined on my ability to provide you with game clips of him?

3. Are you really insinuating Tyron Smith can't play because you can't find a YouTube clip of him?

Again, your arguments are all based from silence..."why haven't we heard of him before the combine...show me the evidence of why he's so good...what experts have talked about him..."

Case in point when you said: "So Mike Mayock says he's worthy of the #9 pick since when? Who else?"

All this crying out for "evidence," by you is clearly a front by you. The reality is you're not prepared to be shown, explained, or pointed to any evidence that would convince you otherwise, so quit with the charade.

If someone showed you a clip, you would say "...not impressed"
If someone showed you an article speaking of Tyron Smith highly from earlier this season you would say "....meh, so what? That's just one.....who else says that?"
If someone gives you a well reasoned argument you say "I'm not buying it..."

Quit with the charade and just say you hate the kid and be done with it. Don't front like you're open to reason.

 

[AKATheRake]

Right, so since you tried to skate through my questions, I'll ask them again so no one who may have stumbled onto the thread might be fooled into thinking you actually answered anything.

1. Have you actually seen him play in an actual game? I'll expect you to be honest.

2. You mean whether or not Tyron Smith can play OT is determined on my ability to provide you with game clips of him?

3. Are you really insinuating Tyron Smith can't play because you can't find a YouTube clip of him?

Again, your arguments are all based from silence..." 1a. why haven't we heard of him before the combine... 2a. show me the evidence of why he's so good...what experts have talked about him..."

3a. Case in point when you said: "So Mike Mayock says he's worthy of the #9 pick since when? Who else?"

All this crying out for "evidence," by you is clearly a front by you. The reality is you're not prepared to be shown, explained, or pointed to any evidence that would convince you otherwise, so quit with the charade.

If someone showed you a clip, you would say "...not impressed"
If someone showed you an article speaking of Tyron Smith highly from earlier this season you would say "....meh, so what? That's just one.....who else says that?"
If someone gives you a well reasoned argument you say "I'm not buying it..."

Quit with the charade and just say you hate the kid and be done with it. Don't front like you're open to reason.

1. I have watched many USC games. Answered.

2. Gave you many opportunities that could be provided in many forms that would provide information on whether he's good enough for the 9th overall pick. It can come in many forms and footage would be 1. i've said this several times. Answered again.

3. Never said anything about youtube other than you can go get a 4 second Rebecca De mornay clip but you can't get any footage on Smith. I know of footage on Smith. Answered

1a. Never once said that.

2a. Did ask to see why he's a viable pick at # 9 and I'm still asking with no information from you. You just have questions of me, you're circling around instead of providing info and you're creating assumptions based off things you haven't even made an effort to make reality. Answer instead of making bs statements. You obviously know nothing of the player and have no ability to provide any useful info.

3a. I never said Mayock said he's worthy of a top 10 pick. I asked since when did he say he would take him 9th overall? Which Mayock has never said it. He said he may be the first tackle taken and is sitting as a mid round first rounder before the combine but depending on the combine that status may move up in other teams eyes. I asked if there are any other experts that may have said such the guy is worthy of a top 10 pick since the OP made a statement that all the experts believe this guys a top 10 pick and an 8-10 year franchise tackle. At least that guy tries to give some info as little and more opinionated as it is. At least some effort.

Asking isn't crying child. He put up a thread and based on the threads subject he was asked questions as to his thinking. What information he had to think this way. If anything, you're the one who can't handle his emotions on a blog and comes up with very arrogant approaches.

Anyways, I've given you enough time child. Please go forward as you have no use to me. No information and know nothing of the players. Just ridiculous assumptions and accusations. Doubt you're even here for football. You prefer drama as opposed to doing something easier. Providing football info on a player when asked.

Carry on and keep reaching. You showed no valuable effort, there for I have no more from me to you. You had many opportunities but are to illogical and lack the common sense of this conversation.

Sport78, anytime you wanna talk football, my pleasure. Realtick, you offer nothing football related. You're a drama monger. Adios!

 

[realtick]

Originally posted by AKATheRake (all of them...)

I'm hating on this Tyron Smith.

I hope this future dud gets picked first overall.

Can't stand this pick, that's all. Even at the bottom of round 1.

Like decent. Not great, not dominating and certainly not pancaking anyone.

What the hell has Tyron Smith done to prove he's made the players around him better?

Someone show me why he is talked about this highly. Please!

So Mike Mayock says he's worthy of the #9 pick since when? Who else?

Yes, these are all statements you would expect with someone who wanted to have a calm, rational, discussion with without any undue emotion....

 

[jnday]

So I guess after all this spirited debate that we can conclude that the Rake doesn`t want Tyron Smith at 9. I don`t care for Smith either , but this guy takes it to new levels.

 

[realtick]

So I guess after all this spirited debate that we can conclude that the Rake doesn`t want Tyron Smith at 9. I don`t care for Smith either , but this guy takes it to new levels.

I think that's what is funny. I haven't said one word for or against Tyron Smith. I just commented on how ridiculous his charade of trying to sound objective is.

He doesn't like Smith one way or the other. Asking people "evidence" is a pointless front.

 

[jnday]

I think that's what is funny. I haven't said one word for or against Tyron Smith. I just commented on how ridiculous his charade of trying to sound objective is.

He doesn't like Smith one way or the other. Asking people "evidence" is a pointless front.

You know , as well as I do , that evidence will screw up a perfectly good argument.

 

[YosemiteSam]

So I guess after all this spirited debate that we can conclude that the Rake doesn`t want Tyron Smith at 9. I don`t care for Smith either , but this guy takes it to new levels.

Gasp! Burn in hell!

Tyron Smith @ #9! :laugh2:

btw, I really do want Tyron at 9.

 

[jnday]

Gasp! Burn in hell!

Tyron Smith @ #9! :laugh2:

btw, I really do want Tyron at 9.

The first step toward healing is admitting that you have a problem .
Buying into the Smith hype is a problem . Now , what can we do to cure it ?