New RBs from Seattle and Marshall's comment

[burmafrd]

I know how it is lol. All mother bear cares about is wins but there is something clearly wrong here. Cowboy fans shouldn't be ashamed or scared to call it like they see it with Hardy.

what I see from you is someone who WANTS THERE TO BE A PROBLEM. Maybe you should think about that.

 

[DC Cowboy]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...s-dallas-cowboys-de-greg-hardy-learned-lesson

Basically, Marshall said he doesn't think Hardy gets it and he doesn't think he has learned his lesson. He said this on Inside the NFL on showtime.

I don't see anything too wrong with his "opinion". It's not like he ripped Hardy.

 

[knightrider94]

Marshall is a smart dude. I have no issues with what he had to say. And, if you heard it, he said it respectfully. It's his opinion.

Hardy's not going to care.

Sorry, but Marshall is a media tool. He doesn't know all the facts about Hardy's situation, like we don't know all of the facts in Marshall's situations. He had so many charges against him. He would have been "Ray Riced" if there were video of his incidents; some of the various accounts by different women are scary. Yet, there he is sitting there talking about Hardy doesn't get it, when, in fact, Marshall doesn't get it. I would have more respect for him if he tried to reach out to help Hardy privately, as he supposedly has gotten help, yet he says this in public to get publicity for himself as he continues to work on his career after football.

 

[DC Cowboy]

No but i believe if a man has his first incident of domestic violence in his late 20's with a woman that is reported to date high profile people and is reported to live "the party life" and he has NO other incidents of violence or arrest...than most likely it was the situation he was put into concerning his heart and emotions. Maybe it was the woman he was dealing with, the situations she was putting him in and the people she was injecting into his life. No one wants to say or keep it real of what really happened.

not defending Hardy or anything but didn't the alleged victim's friend testify that the "victim" was just upset that Hardy had moved out of his place? I will try to find that article.

 

[Redball Express]

Brandon Marshall makes Hardy look like a choir boy:

"Oct. 31, 2004: During his junior year at Central Florida, Marshall was arrested at a Denny’s restaurant in Orlando, Fla., on charges of assault on a police officer, disorderly conduct, trespass and resisting arrest without violence and refusal to obey. The charges were dismissed.

April 8, 2005: Marshall was charged with retail theft, a misdemeanor, after trying to return a stolen set of bed sheets, valued at $19.99, to a Burlington Coat Factory. The charge was dropped.

June 17, 2006: Marshall and longtime girlfriend Rasheedah Watley both filed police reports alleging physical abuse by the other in a long altercation at an Orlando apartment. No arrests or charges were made.

Jan. 1, 2007: Marshall was at the Denver nightclub Shelter with Broncos teammates Javon Walker and Darrent Williams, attending a birthday party for Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. As the group left the club in a limousine, Williams was shot fatally in the neck by an unknown assailant. Walker later said the shooter was likely another man at the nightclub who was seeking retaliation after an altercation with Marshall's cousin that evening. Marshall testified at the trial of gunman Willie Clark that he helped escalate the dispute that led to Williams' death.

Jan. 24, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police interviewed Marshall and his father after an argument in an Orlando parking lot. Marshall claimed his father tried to hit him with his car. His father claimed Marshall had fired a gun. Both men declined to press charges.

March 18, 2007: In Atlanta, Watley told police Marshall punched her and took her purse while in a hotel. Marshall was gone before police arrived. No charges were filed.

March 21, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police in Palm Beach County, Fla., interviewed Marshall and Watley twice in the same night after two loud arguments. Both said the disturbances were not physical in nature. No arrests or charges were made.

March 26, 2007: Marshall was arrested in a Denver suburb on suspicion of domestic violence. Watley reported Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house. Marshall completed anger management counseling and the charges were dropped two months later.

June 8, 2007: According to the Denver Post, two incident reports were filed by Atlanta police. A friend of Watley’s claimed Marshall hit her car and then threw a rock at the passenger door as Watley was riding in the passenger seat. Watley also told police Marshall cut her in the thigh and punched her in the face. She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

June 30, 2007: According to the Denver Post, Watley told Atlanta police Marshall punched and choked her at his condo. She had a bruise and scratches. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

Oct. 22, 2007: Marshall was arrested in Denver and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. He was pulled over driving the wrong way on a one-way street hours after a game. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability-impaired and was sentenced to one year of probation and 24 hours of community service.

March 6, 2008: Marshall was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery in Atlanta after a dispute with Watley. She told police he punched her in the mouth and eye. Marshall said he cut his hand on glass.

Aug. 6, 2008: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Marshall for three games for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. The suspension was reduced to one regular-season game and a fine of an additional game check, costing him $52,353.

March 1, 2009: Marshall was arrested in Atlanta on disorderly conduct charges after allegedly being involved in a dispute with then-fiancee, Michi Nogami-Campbell, now his wife. Charges were dropped the next day.

Aug. 14, 2009: Marshall was found not guilty on the battery charges from the March 2008 arrest in Atlanta.

April 23, 2011: Marshall was taken to Broward General Medical Center after Nogami-Campbell stabbed him in the abdomen at their Florida home. Nogami-Campbell told police she stabbed Marshall “out of self-defense.”

Sunday: Marshall is accused by a 24-year-old woman of punching her in the eye, leaving a black eye, in an altercation outside a club in New York. Marshall’s attorney says it was Marshall’s wife that was injured and says the couple are the true victims in the case."

Thanx for posting.

Man..just don't get pissed at me..huh?

I wouldn't want you going back thru my posts and pointing out my flaws.

You'd need a new website..huh?

 

[texbumthelife]

This may be the most hypocritical thread ever started on CZ.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No but i believe if a man has his first incident of domestic violence in his late 20's with a woman that is reported to date high profile people and is reported to live "the party life" and he has NO other incidents of violence or arrest...than most likely it was the situation he was put into concerning his heart and emotions. Maybe it was the woman he was dealing with, the situations she was putting him in and the people she was injecting into his life. No one wants to say or keep it real of what really happened.

It's not even about the domestic situation. Reading up on it I still don't know what exactly happened that night. It's the other stuff with Hardy. It's how he shows lack of remorse or compassion. This is the time in a contract year to atleast pretend to be on your best behavior and it's somewhat disturbing if this is what he's considering this to be. How smart was it really for him to make those comments about Brady's wide and her friends? Or the twin towers comment in the offseason? Something is not right here. If it's a act then I hope that's the case. I hope this is all a front.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

what I see from you is someone who WANTS THERE TO BE A PROBLEM. Maybe you should think about that.

Why would I want there to be a problem? I've spent all year defending the guy and I'm still doing it to this day. But you are in denial if you think how Hardys acting isn't a problem. If that was your son or family member acting like that you would condone it and not think there's a problem? Of course not. But he's a toy to you guys. He's great until he can't play anymore. Then you throw him off to the side and get rid of him. I'm not judging Hardy. I just hope mentally everything is alright with him because his actions he's displayed these past few years is not how you'd expect a professional to act. If the Cowboys players have no problem with it I don't either. But when TO did these same antics guys wanted him out of town and called him all sorts of names.

 

[Alexander]

Maybe it was the woman he was dealing with, the situations she was putting him in and the people she was injecting into his life. No one wants to say or keep it real of what really happened.

Locally, the woman's reputation was far from sterling.

 

[mahoneybill]

Brandon Marshall's comments

"When I look at Greg and how he's handled himself, on the field and in the locker room, I see a guy that is not aware," Marshall said on the Tuesday night program, via ESPN.com. "He doesn't understand the magnitude of what happened last year, what he did and the atmosphere surrounding the NFL.

"I don't think that he gets it. I don't think that he learned his lesson. And he really needs to look himself in the mirror and ask himself, 'What type of person do I want to be?'"


To the OP, he should really just keep his mouth shut. He's had more than enough accusations himself about DV. Maybe he's the one who doesn't get it.


Chicago Bears star receiver Brandon Marshall has been named in at least eight separate incidents of violence against women since he was drafted in 2006.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/18/brandon-marshall-chicago-bears-domestic-violence-charges

Thanks for that link. On a similar note I think Ole Terry Bradshaw has been married/divorced several times, and I think if one of those ex's wanted to tarnish his image they could share a few incidents that went " unpoliced" or " media" aided to tarnish his holier than though opinion.

 

[mahoneybill]

Sorry, but Marshall is a media tool. He doesn't know all the facts about Hardy's situation, like we don't know all of the facts in Marshall's situations. He had so many charges against him. He would have been "Ray Riced" if there were video of his incidents; some of the various accounts by different women are scary. Yet, there he is sitting there talking about Hardy doesn't get it, when, in fact, Marshall doesn't get it. I would have more respect for him if he tried to reach out to help Hardy privately, as he supposedly has gotten help, yet he says this in public to get publicity for himself as he continues to work on his career after football.

Excellent commentary.. If you know someone who has gone through this, you instantly realize there are always two sides to the story.

 

[gambit187]

It's not even about the domestic situation. Reading up on it I still don't know what exactly happened that night. It's the other stuff with Hardy. It's how he shows lack of remorse or compassion. This is the time in a contract year to atleast pretend to be on your best behavior and it's somewhat disturbing if this is what he's considering this to be. How smart was it really for him to make those comments about Brady's wide and her friends? Or the twin towers comment in the offseason? Something is not right here. If it's a act then I hope that's the case. I hope this is all a front.

Maybe he feels there is no need to show remorse or compassion, maybe he knows that deep down he is not that type of guy, maybe he knows that he got involved with a "party girl" and it ended up the wrong way, but he was not at fault for TRYING to dump her. I don't look at him any sort of way for making crazy comments, mainly because of that little thing called FREE SPEECH. I'm looking at the fact that this man is almost 30 and its only been the last 2 years he has really gotten into any trouble.

Over the last two months I have sat and watched comedians talk about and make jokes referring to the Twin Towers as well as recent tragedies and they are always let off the hook. His sense of humor maybe a little off. To be honest with you if someone tweeted and said those two WR are the New Twin Towers...than you dayum right I would have said the exact same thing and there were probably other people that tweeted something similar. Its over 10 years old, it hurt, it changed the world but YO get over it. I mean honestly how long do we have to wait.

Myself as a black male that has children can be heard saying from time to time "Get that trash out or I'm gonna kick your bleep like I was a cop". That doesn't make me a bad person, or any less of a human...i'm just trying to get my point across in my own weird sense of humor.

 

[tayloner]

What Brandon Marshall said, I couldn't have said it better myself. He was extremely well spoken, and didn't "bash" Hardy, but said exactly how I feel. This sort of thing happens all the time on the sidelines, and it's ok for that to happen in the moment. Marshall even said he got into it with a teammate this past Sunday and it was maybe too much, but he thinks the issue with Hardy is that he doesn't recognize the importance of his reputation in the climate of today's NFL, and that he needs to be smarter than this so it doesn't become a distraction for the team. Marshall is a co-host of Inside The NFL for these exact situations, to put a player's perspective on the week-by-week stories, and that's exactly what he did. No issue with it all, even though the Hardy thing maybe has been blown up too much by this point given what the Cowboys coaches/front office have said, I'm still glad Marshall said it.

 

[gambit187]

Locally, the woman's reputation was far from sterling.

To quote the great producer, beat maker, sometime rapper and candidate for the 2016 Presidency (lmao) "I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke ..."

 

[Idgit]

Here's the actual clip. Hearing it probably will make a difference in terms of how this gets interpreted.

 

[MRV52]

The BiPolar Marshall? Please Brandon look in the mirror, what do you see and who do you really want to be.

 

[Slashar00]

Was he asked or did he simply volunteer this statement? If he was asked, what's with all the grief?

Marshall has been a completely different person since he was diagnosed with BPD. He's gotten help and become a good dude. If anything, he knows exactly what he's talking about. Nothing he said is insensitive or inflammatory.

And LMAO at calling him a "Journeyman"... 3 teams and a likely borderline Hall-of-Fame career. Everyone on this site would take that "journeyman" if we could get him.

100% yes. I thought Marshall was trash before he got his diagnosis. Once he began intensive therapy to manage his mental illness, he's been a completely different person and changed his life around. Of course, he's not cured because there is no cure. But he's working on it, and in the meantime, he constantly raises money and awareness for mental health services and charities.

If anything, Brandon Marshall is the perfect person to talk about guys "getting it" or "not getting it." He used to be a train wreck and did a ton of regretful things, but he changed his life around.

 

[Slashar00]

The BiPolar Marshall? Please Brandon look in the mirror, what do you see and who do you really want to be.

That's the point. He had to do that. He looked at himself in the mirror and hated what he saw. So he got help.

 

[Clarkson]

Thing is, I do not know if Hardy is at that point.

Exactly this. If something is going on with Hardy (which I would not be surprised, at all) then he needs to want to get better. Marshall going out of his way and cornering Hardy into talking about it will probably not go well.

 

[MRV52]

That's the point. He had to do that. He looked at himself in the mirror and hated what he saw. So he got help.

He is still a lose canon.