Newman Is A Tremendous Player, But His Drop Of The INT Was As Big As Cundiff's Botch

[Eskimo]

Let's not go overboard there... Newman is nice but saying he is the best DB on this team is a bit of an overstatement.

Newman's progress has been everything that I have hoped and dreamed for after spending a lottery pick on him. Maybe his dropped catch did not lose the game for us, but it did not win it for us.

Likewise as comparable to the Roy Williams pick in a similar situation, his catch eventually won the game for us. If Roy drops that ball, I'm not saying he lost the game for us, but it's obvious the drop was a key play that didn't win it for us.

Roy made a big play against Philly and another big one today.

However, our defense has to scheme around Roy's deficiencies to put him in a position to be successful.

Other teams have to scheme about what they want to do with TNew to get him off their WRs.

That is how you can tell which one is the better player.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Actually - I don't think very many people agree with you - in fact there is another poll thread asking who is to blame for the loss and the TNew play is not even an option.

Because it shouldn't be.

We disagree - end of story.

Sarge,
Really you missed my point. I don't blame TNew for the loss. But it's just like the poster above said about Roy's pick in Philly. If he doesn't pick it we couldn't say he lost the game for us, but it would certainly have been a key play that did not win it for us. That's a better way of saying it.

 

[Sarge]

Sarge,
Really you missed my point. I don't blame TNew for the loss. But it's just like the poster above said about Roy's pick in Philly. If he doesn't pick it we couldn't say he lost the game for us, but it would certainly have been a key play that did not win it for us. That's a better way of saying it.

I never said you blamed TNew for the loss.

What I'm saying is that I feel that the missed field goal or Bledsoes' 6 points the other way had a bigger impact on the outcome of the game than Tnews missed INT.

I understand what you're saying - I just don't agree with it.

 

[Tio]

Personally, I don't get it myself. He is not just the best CB, or the best DB or the best defensive player on the team - he is the best player on the team and it isn't really even all that close.

Him or witten definately...great draft.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I never said you blamed TNew for the loss.

What I'm saying is that I feel that the missed field goal or Bledsoes' 6 points the other way had a bigger impact on the outcome of the game than Tnews missed INT.

I understand what you're saying - I just don't agree with it.

Hey Mr. Newman, tell your son I said he played a great game. (Just kidding with you!)

 

[Sarge]

Hey Mr. Newman, tell your son I said he played a great game. (Just kidding with you!)

It's about time you figured me out.

 

[Nerm]

Pro Bowl and All-Pro are 2 different things. It sounds like you are talking about him making the Pro Bowl. Being selected All-Pro is more exclusive. I doubt he gets selected All Pro. He might have a shot at making the Pro Bowl for the NFC though.

I understand they are different (not that you could tell from the way I worded it though).

IMO Newman is playing well enough to be all pro, but I have not watched many of the other good CBs very closely. I would put him in as a pro bowler for sure.

 

[Derinyar]

Newman should be a lock for the NFC probowl. I doubt anyone can name 3-5 CB's better than him. In fact right now I think one would be hard pressed to name 2 NFC CB's better than Newman.

 

[Eskimo]

Newman should be a lock for the NFC probowl. I doubt anyone can name 3-5 CB's better than him. In fact right now I think one would be hard pressed to name 2 NFC CB's better than Newman.

How about starting by naming one?

 

[scottsp]

Not blaming the guy and certainly not diminishing, in any way, a fine game and season by Terrence, but Newman needs to make that play.

 

[Sarge]

Not blaming the guy and certainly not diminishing, in any way, a fine game and season by Terrence, but Newman needs to make that play.

Yep - he DOES need to make that play.

...and Cundiff needs to make that chipshot and Bledsoe need not give the opposing team 6 points.

 

[scottsp]

Yep - he DOES need to make that play.

...and Cundiff needs to make that chipshot and Bledsoe need not give the opposing team 6 points.

Sarge, it's tough to argue those points. We didn't make plays down the stretch that would've made today a bit brighter. Despite all the problems this team is perceived to have, any one of those gets made, we are probably a much happier bunch today.

It's amazing how small the margin can be. A little thing here or there. I guess that's what makes pro football so exciting.

 

[ravidubey]

Newman shut his guy out, had a pick, and dove on a fumble that was bounding out of bounds so fast I thought there was no way anyone could possibly get it. He was tackling everything in sight. It's all clicking for him now, he is a top tier corner and our most consistent defensive player.

BTW, he didn't start running before catching the pass, he had to move to cut off the WR then realized the ball was thrown behind him and had to reach back. It sucked that he couldn't hang on but that play wasn't why Dallas lost.

 

[JonJon]

Newman is not to blame for this loss. You should be arguing that, had it not been for Newman, we would have been blown out yesterday. He is the one that gave us a chance to win in the first place.

Q: Who was it that gave Dallas momentum going into the 3rd quarter with an interception that ended the Broncos drive and gave Dallas the opportunity to tie the game?

A: Newman

Q: Who was it that pounced on the fumble Roy Williams caused right before it rolled out of bounds and gave Dallas yet another opportunity to tie the game?

A: Newman (At first, I though the ball was going out of bounds, but on the replay, you can see that Newman got possession of the ball AND got his elbow down before going out of bounds, a truly outstanding play)

Newman had a Pro Bowl night, and despite the missed INT, those who watched the game saw how he dominated his position. A lesser CB may not have even been in position to make that INT that he dropped, which would have been a difficult catch anyway because Plummer was not accurate with it. Newman had 1 INT and 2 Fumble recoveries ( although one was his own fumble, it still counts as a recovery).

 

[bbgun]

Are you ****** crazy? Newman is the last guy I would blame for this loss.

 

[Fletch]

I agree Sarge. It is funny how everyone is doing their best to find nitpick on a player like T-New. He played outstanding. Cundiff is the GOAT of this game. Ask anyone.

 

[CoCo]

The majority have it correct here. T-New is the man.

That 'almost INT' was not a drop. That is absurd. Frankly, if Newman wouldn't have had such great coverage he probably WOULD have made the pick. Or if Plummer makes a halfway decent throw, Newman would've picked it.

If, if, if, if, if ...

Newman played a great game. We lost the game, as a team.

My greatest laments are, Cundiff's miss and the ongoing weak play of our OL. We are no threat to the SB with an anemic inconsistent running game like we have. That to me stands out far above all other concerns about this team.