Newman!

[Chocolate Lab]

There are going to be a lot of plays like that one in this defense. This is a fairly high-risk, pressure defense that is going to send a lot of people after the QB on passing downs. That leaves fewer people in the back end to cover, and the receivers are going to have room at times. But the pressure should cause inaccurate throws, especially down the field.

So it's not really "luck" that that throw wasn't perfect. It's the way the defense is designed.

 

[Future]

Luck is vital to success in football. This is especially true in the NFL for obvious reasons. There is an old adage most in football can agree on, "I rather be lucky then good".

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one because my definition of getting beat is diametrically opposite to your definition. In my opinion, football is an results oriented business. Almost, close, if, ands, and buts, need not apply.

Through out a game, players blow assignments, get beat, all over the field but if the opposing team doesn't capitalize then it is all for naught.

You can't allow mistakes assuming that the other team won't capitalize on them. Of course Seattle didnt. Philly will.

 

[peplaw06]

Newman looked pretty good. Good pass break up on that one Burleson almost got later in the game, good hit on Forsett.

Did get beat on the one deep pass to Burleson, looked like Sensy took a bad angle on that to break it up.

 

[adbutcher]

True. I would add sometimes the other guy just makes a fine play after all there are paid professionals on the other side of the line. I thought Hasslebacks 1st TD was just the perfect pass with perfect timing and even though Scandrick was in a good position the Hawks made a very fine play. It happens in the NFL. :laugh2:

That is what so perplexing to me about fans. The NFL has so many good players that are dispersed throughout each team that it is a wonder that there are clear cut winners, week in and week out.

Sometimes the other guy will win, you just got to tip your hat and get ready for the next play. However, if he doesn't catch the ball, you can't call that a win, imo.

 

[Sickwitit]

time to shoot down another BIRD

 

[adbutcher]

You can't allow mistakes assuming that the other team won't capitalize on them. Of course Seattle didnt. Philly will.

It is not allowing mistakes. Assumptions are something else though. I guess Philly capitalized on Oakland's mistakes too.

We will beat Philly and we will make mistakes and guess what even the 16-0 Patriots did not play a single mistake free football game.

 

[adbutcher]

There are going to be a lot of plays like that one in this defense. This is a fairly high-risk, pressure defense that is going to send a lot of people after the QB on passing downs. That leaves fewer people in the back end to cover, and the receivers are going to have room at times. But the pressure should cause inaccurate throws, especially down the field.

So it's not really "luck" that that throw wasn't perfect. It's the way the defense is designed.

 

[Doomsday101]

That is what so perplexing to me about fans. The NFL has so many good players that are dispersed throughout each team that it is a wonder that there are clear cut winners, week in and week out.

Sometimes the other guy will win, you just got to tip your hat and get ready for the next play. However, if he doesn't catch the ball, you can't call that a win, imo.

Exactly. It is not always what you did not do it is sometimes the other team makes plays as well. I though the Seahawks came into the game playing very hard and made some very fine plays as I mentioned the TD pass to Branch on Scandrick was just a pretty play on their part you tip your hate and get ready for the next play.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The talent descrepancies between the higher and lower level NFL teams for 2009 has increased significantly, it's the worst it has been in over a Decade.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

aside from poor technique in getting beat deep by burleson.. he played a great game.

 

[adbutcher]

Exactly. It is not always what you did not do it is sometimes the other team makes plays as well. I though the Seahawks came into the game playing very hard and made some very fine plays as I mentioned the TD pass to Branch on Scandrick was just a pretty play on their part you tip your hate and get ready for the next play.

I remember watching film on a team and they had a RB drift to the flats where he was open almost every time against a similar blitz package that we deployed. Guess what in about 3 games worth of film, the QB never threw it to him.

When the coaches were putting together our game plan, we did not emphasize accounting for him and they never did throw it to him even when we played against them.

The moral of the story, players will get open but there are so many factors that has to take place in order for the QB to properly execute getting the player the ball.

If you have watched all of our games this year you will know that RW has been open on many plays yet for whatever reason, Romo has not gone to him. Does that count? Did he beat the DB? I know this is a stretch for some fans but no it doesn't count, not until he catches.

 

[adbutcher]

The talent descrepancies between the higher and lower level NFL teams for 2009 has increased significantly, it's the worst it has been in over a Decade.

I disagree with this statement.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I disagree with this statement.

If you look a little closer you will see that the distance between the best Teams like the Colts, Saints and Pats from the worst Teams like the Rams, Lions and Browns is more evident for the 2009 Season than it has been since the mid-late 90s'.

 

[Tra_Col99]

Newman Vs. Trufant?

Debate over...imo.

 

[Muhast]

I love how Newman is playing. our corner trio is in a groove right now. They are smothering wr's and hitting very hard. Both Newman and Jenkins are playing well in the run game and laying some nice tackles.

People need to realize you can't play a perfect game. Seattle has a talented wr core. They have a qb who can make throws when given time and has led his team to a SB in the past 5 years. It's not like Newman or Scandrick got flat out beaten on either play. The Burleson Post route looked like a cover 3 and sensabaugh took a bad angle on the play. But the play resulted in a big gain and not a td. It happens. Champ Bailey, A.Winfield and everyone else gets beaten. We just happen to harpoon on the players more for it.

Scandrick actually could have had a pretty easy pick 6 on that one screen pass play but he didn't get his head around quick enough to find the ball. Similar to the TD, he was in great position. And as frustrating as that is, he was in great position and after watching tape I'm sure he'll correct that.

All in all I thought our entire defense played well.

 

[Vintage]

There are going to be a lot of plays like that one in this defense. This is a fairly high-risk, pressure defense that is going to send a lot of people after the QB on passing downs. That leaves fewer people in the back end to cover, and the receivers are going to have room at times. But the pressure should cause inaccurate throws, especially down the field.

So it's not really "luck" that that throw wasn't perfect. It's the way the defense is designed.

Agreed. When you blitz; you better get there or the secondary is exposed if any sort of mistake is made on their part.

We could sit back in coverage to help our CBs; but then people would complain we weren't being aggressive enough.

When you want to play aggressively on defense, you are gonna get beat from time to time. You have to live with that if that's the style of defense you are going to play.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Newman had trouble with Burleson on that one play.

But, he played decent the other times. Not great.

Let's see what he does against Desean Jackson. Time to earn your pay.

 

[theogt]

There are going to be a lot of plays like that one in this defense. This is a fairly high-risk, pressure defense that is going to send a lot of people after the QB on passing downs. That leaves fewer people in the back end to cover, and the receivers are going to have room at times. But the pressure should cause inaccurate throws, especially down the field.

So it's not really "luck" that that throw wasn't perfect. It's the way the defense is designed.

Agreed. When you blitz; you better get there or the secondary is exposed if any sort of mistake is made on their part.

We could sit back in coverage to help our CBs; but then people would complain we weren't being aggressive enough.

When you want to play aggressively on defense, you are gonna get beat from time to time. You have to live with that if that's the style of defense you are going to play.

I think Wade's blending a good mix of "bend but don't break" and all out aggressive defense. He starts out the game in a bend but don't break mode, which will give up some points, but mostly just field goals, then once the offense gets clicking he kicks the defense into gear in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Then while we've got a good lead, we revert back to bend but don't break to protect the lead.

 

[Frozen700]

Newman gets toasted at least once a game now.

id take that over 2 or four times a game...every CB has their day even days....Vincent Jackson made Asomuga(Sp?) his ***** when they faced each other, but hes still a great CB

Champ had 1 horrible year and a horrible half a year, and still get beat time 2 time...nobody is perfect