Next man up doesn't work here

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That catch phrase of "next man up" implies that the ship keeps on sailing even though a better sailor has been replaced with a lesser one. Didn't they try next man up in Atlanta with Chaz Green? Called the same plays with a mediocre LT replacing an All Pro one.

So, CC, what's your point? Glad you asked. My point is Moore is catching heat and some are going so far to say Garrett intervened in the strategy assuming injuries don't alter game plan strategy and in game injuries, in game tactics.

Do you honestly think this team has depth in the OL and WR? Depth that would allow them to go with the same O strategy they would with the starters? How many teams can lose both OT's, #1WR and slot WR? Didn't we see this offense without the WR1 last season? And that RT was the best OL of the starting 5. Add to this Yosemite is not 100% and Martin is obviously struggling with an injury(ies).

Now, add to this that 4 of those OL are in the top 6 paid at their position, how can they have quality depth? And that 5th OL hasn't come into form yet and the only reason is no longer getting picked on is because of the injuries to the other OL.

I saw these posts about all of this depth in the off season and wondered what some were seeing that I was missing. Depth is unknown until it is time for next man up.

The strength of this team, THE STRENGTH, is that OL. The run game is dependent on it and as well the time for the QB as well as the D to stay off the field. It is nuts to expect this team to play at the same level missing these players.

Our greatest concern going into this season should have been injuries, the one thing we know from the past is the toughest thing for this team to overcome. Just one starter out is a problem and now we see 2 OT's and WR's 1, 2 and 3.

All of those celebrating the re-signing of those OL and DE and RB, did you think there might not be a bigger price to pay? Too much to too few means poor depth.

Kellen Moore was going to have some bumps with a 100% healthy team and now he has this and is facing better DC's, like he just did in NY, and his playbook is condensed. What he wanted to do, he can no longer do because he now has to worry about backups making mistakes and getting penalties and hamstringing his offense.

I am not making excuses, injures are reasons and while some teams can overcome these injuries to their OL, they don't have 4 of the 5 in the top 6 paid. The Cowboys went all in on these starting OL and now we get to see the other teams' hole cards. The game has changed.
 

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I think the depth has actually held up pretty well. Austin and Wilson are our #5 and #6 WRs when everyone is healthy, and they played well vs the Jets. They're not Cooper, but they both went 5/50ish and didn't make any mistakes aside from the iffy offensive PI call. And our #3 tackle Fleming is getting worked, but the #4 tackle Brandon Knight is playing better than any of us would have expected.

IMO, the studs not playing like studs is what's screwing us (aside from Garrett). The injury bug is biting harder after we got very lucky on that front last season, but the bigger issue is that our highest paid players that are supposed to be carrying this team look really mediocre. Frederick's not himself yet, Martin is getting hurt after 4 totally healthy seasons to start his career, Zeke is slow, and you can just pick a name out of the hat on defense. Byron's about the only guy who's been playing up to his 2018 standard.
 
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Last season looney, sua filo, and Fleming all played admirably filling in for zack, freddy, smith, and at times conner williams. So it's probably not the players. Earlier we were told zeke had his highest yardage total ever after 3 games. 3 games later and he has his lowest total yards after 6 games. Imo, the LCD in our downward spiral has been dak. I had great expectations for him early in the season, but those expectations are gone. He just isn't the guy I thought he was.
 

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IMO, our building of roster-depth has improved since Will McClay came onboard and Stephen Jones was given more say-so in player-acquisition and salary-cap management.

But, as always, there’s the coaching issue. Jason Garrett and his staff continue to demonstrate that they’re not among the league leaders in injury management.
 

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I think our depth is better. We have better backups now than we did say in 2010-12. The problem IMO isn’t the quality of the backup personnel. It’s the lack of quality in the coaches’ ability to scheme or game plan better and differently with backups.

The famous disaster in Atlanta with Chaz Green in 2017 wasn’t just Green’s pitiful performance. What was way worse was the HC watching that meltdown unfold without any apparent pre-game preparation or in-game adjustment to what was happening. Garrett should have known Green was going to need more help or some kind of scheme adjustments. But Garrett’s version of “next man up” apparently doesn’t include any creative adjustments. Other than a t-shirt slogan like “fight”.
 

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IMO, our building of roster-depth has improved since Will McClay came onboard and Stephen Jones was given more say-so in player-acquisition and salary-cap management.

But, as always, there’s the coaching issue. Jason Garrett and his staff continue to demonstrate that they’re not among the league leaders in injury management.

Because they don't know the differences in the strengths and weaknesses between starters and backups. Because each player has their strengths and weaknesses, things should be adjusted to cover those weaknesses and play up to strengths. Garrett has NEVER embraced this. He insists that everyone play the same way to "beat their man." It's like he can't grasp that it doesn't work. His staff will not make those adjustments all that often. When they do, it's because they screwed up so much that they're on the hot seat.
 

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The number of quality players who are injured and likely won’t play on Sunday night is absolutely debilitating. Belichick would be hardpressed to devise a winning game plan with this collection of spares. Happens to almost every team once or twice a year. That’s why it’s imperative you take advantage when the injury situation is in your favor. The Cowboys didn’t do that. In fact, they weren’t even competitive against Green Bay.

So here we are.
 

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The number of quality players who are injured and likely won’t play on Sunday night is absolutely debilitating. Belichick would be hardpressed to devise a winning game plan with this collection of spares. Happens to almost every team once or twice a year. That’s why it’s imperative you take advantage when the injury situation is in your favor. The Cowboys didn’t do that. In fact, they weren’t even competitive against Green Bay.

So here we are.

No, no excuses.. Other teams finds ways to win even with multiple backups playing. Look at the year the Eagles won the SB...all through the season, they had multiple backups playing. This is on the coaching and players not solidifying as a team.
 

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No, no excuses.. Other teams finds ways to win even with multiple backups playing. Look at the year the Eagles won the SB...all through the season, they had multiple backups playing. This is on the coaching and players not solidifying as a team.

I totally believe injuries are a valid excuse. But it doesn’t absolve Garrett because he absolutely screwed the pooch against Green Bay and New Orleans who were injury depleted.
 

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Next man up does not work because we dont adjust

the eagles won a superbowl by adjusting the offense to fit what nick foles could do

the saints win games by adjusting to what teddy is good at

we expect our backups to do the same thing as starters even if their skillset is different
 
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