Next Time we Discuss Dak's Stats

[Dre11]

are you talking about your panties? because it seems you got twisted like a pretzel when anyone here said any slightest thing taken as a negative...and yes facts are facts, and you have to take ALL of the facts into account, not partial......because if you do, its like you are watching a movie through a key hole and unless you want to fool yourself

You have no facts, you have your opinions.

 

[DFWJC]

Oh no, remember, Dak Prescott is solely responsible for all the losses. In fact he alone is responsible for the loses single handedly. See other QB's they get to say that they didn't have their starting center or their WR's were horrible etc etc. Dak Prescott, he get's no such consideration because apparently he plays all positions at the same time all the time on offense. In fact our whole offense is just Dak Prescott. In fact even if he is on the bench he is negatively influencing our defense. Don't know how but this is irrational hate so who cares.

Kind of like Tony going and relaxing at the beach (when the entire practice facility was closed and off limits) for a few days off with Witten and their girlfriends...instead of hitting the party scene and/or strip clubs like many of the reset of the team for an entire week.
But somehow it was his fault they lost a game.


Yep. I agree, some fans can be irrational.
Welcome to the Cowboys fanbase

 

[BoysForLife]

I left one word out...

Absolute trash post.

Ask the Commanders what they think about Dak? Better yet, go to their forums and find out for yourself.

I remember reading the main forums back in 2013, how jealous many were of RG III

Now we have RG 4. Amazing how the tables have turned.......

 

[Idgit]

What is that old saying, 90% of stats are made up on the spot. Well in here it is 99% are made up to put down a QB.

It’s actually only 73% of stars that are completely made up, but you’re right that it’s a pretty high number regardless.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I remember reading the main forums back in 2013, how jealous many were of RG III

Now we have RG 4. Amazing how the tables have turned.......

Huh? Dak and RGKnee are nothing alike.

 

[zrinkill]

Now we have RG 4. Amazing how the tables have turned.......

See ....... this post right here is why many people believe that race is the problem many Dak detractors have with Dak.

RG3 and Dak play nothing alike

 

[BoysForLife]

See ....... this post right here is why many people believe that race is the problem many Dak detractors have with Dak.

RG3 and Dak play nothing alike

Inaccurate downfield passers with poor pocket awareness whose best plays are usually with their legs rather than their arms. Throw in the terrible footwork and bad mechanics (ie constantly throwing off back foot) and What am I missing?

Maybe if I’d drawn a Manziel or Tebow comparison rather than Griffin, can we put the racial garbage to bed?

The only reason I mentioned Griffin is because the post I was responding to said ask the Commanders fans. I remember a time not so long ago when many of our fans were lusting after Robert Griffin. Including the guy I was responding to, who was absolutely irate that we didn’t draft Griffin

 

[America's Cowboy]

Inaccurate downfield passers with poor pocket awareness whose best plays are usually with their legs rather than their arms. Throw in the terrible footwork and bad mechanics (ie constantly throwing off back foot) and What am I missing?

Maybe if I’d drawn a Manziel or Tebow comparison rather than Griffin, can we put the racial garbage to bed?

The only reason I mentioned Griffin is because the post I was responding to said ask the Commanders fans. I remember a time not so long ago when many of our fans were lusting after Robert Griffin. Including the guy I was responding to, who was absolutely irate that we didn’t draft Griffin

I actually was against picking up RGKnee. Said he had giraffe legs, which turned out to be his downfall. Good arm though. Did you see him this past preseason playing for the Ravens? He would be good as a career backup.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Fans are the consumers. They have every right to question what may be causing the results on the field, even if it includes off-the-field decisions.

Gee do fans write the checks? The only one's that Romo and Witten went to Cabo is his coach who told the entire team to get away for a few days on the week off during the playoffs and the owner and neither had said anything about it. Some fans think they are much more important than what we are. We fans have NO SAY SO in what goes on with the Cowboys or any other team. Well we do if enough stop watching but to think fans are the dating police on who a player can date and where they go especially when they have the blessing of the coach is moronic.
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[gjkoeppen]

its not cherry picking. its multiple plays during a game, game to game, season to season....that's consistently having the same flaw....and there are more of those...with that said, Dak is one of the better game managers in the game....he doesn't have to win games for cowboys and hasn't really...... just let zeke and defense do it...

How quickly you forget his rookie season when he was offensive rookie of the year. And last week when he was 24 of 28. Yes the defense was outstanding against the saints but that doesn't take away that Prescott only missed on 4 attempts all game.
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[gjkoeppen]

I don't deny that looking at a single stat is misleading and you have to take everything into account. but to simply state Dak has no time, when his average time to throw this year is 3rd highest, is absurd.... what he is not getting is the 4 or 5 or 6 seconds he had in 2016. He is not good anticipating. he is not good in reading defenses. he is not very accurate. so having him make quick throws is not his forte..... he needs time, less pressure and survey the field and all WR to fully run through their routes be open before he throws.....2016 he had that and he managed. even then no one asked him to throw much as he was 23rd in the league in pass attempts....even this year he is `7th and mostly because we have been behind in games earlier in the year and forced to throw in the 4th quarter....he is just not a 35 to 45 pass attempt per game type QB....,

now, as you sy you observed, Romo held for too long, moved around and wanted to make plays down field...its obvious that Dak hold on too long, doesn't move around the pocket and pulls the ball too much. when he has had to make quick throws, his fundamentals have been scary bad.....he is slow processing/progression type QB and needs a very strong OL to succeed. IMO, he is better suited to WCO, and getting him on the move where he is more comfortable throwing would probably help him

Here's another variable that you seemed to overlook. The receivers, until Cooper came, that he had to throw to and their ability to get separation. I don't want Prescott or any Cowboys QB forcing the ball just to get rid of it and get a bunch of picks. When they're down late in the game then yes the QB has to take some chances but to do it from the first quarter on is foolish.
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[gjkoeppen]

and you know romo took 3 to 4 second because you had a timer and timed his throws, tracked it and averaged it out!!!!

You seem to forget the receiver part of the equation.
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[CowboysFaninHouston]

How quickly you forget his rookie season when he was offensive rookie of the year. And last week when he was 24 of 28. Yes the defense was outstanding against the saints but that doesn't take away that Prescott only missed on 4 attempts all game.
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Robert Griffin was also Rookie of the year? how many years should he have milked that? ROTY stuff is for fans and media. meaningless otherwise. he was flawed then. he rode Zeke's back to that award and since then. in fact Zeke would have been a better candidate. it doesn't translate to anything....and he was 24-28 and we scored 13 points....... so what he missed four passes. he made all the dump offs and screen passes.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Here's another variable that you seemed to overlook. The receivers, until Cooper came, that he had to throw to and their ability to get separation. I don't want Prescott or any Cowboys QB forcing the ball just to get rid of it and get a bunch of picks. When they're down late in the game then yes the QB has to take some chances but to do it from the first quarter on is foolish.
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you heard of throwing it away!? and the recievers were getting open, Dak wants them to be open by 3 yards....cooper gives him that..... and I don't want Dak to force it, because he doesn't have the accuracy to make those throws and they would be picks...thus he has to be safe and given a WR that can give the type of separation he is comfortable with.....and the point you are making is that Dak is a save QB, doesn't take chances....he is a bus driver...asked to not make mistakes and let Zeke and defense lead us to victory.....and come along for the ride Dak....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You seem to forget the receiver part of the equation.
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when you see averages across the league....then it evens out...seems like we want to surround Dak with the best of everything in order for him to be just good....Dak has never been elite passer.....

 

[America's Cowboy]

Gee do fans write the checks? The only one's that Romo and Witten went to Cabo is his coach who told the entire team to get away for a few days on the week off during the playoffs and the owner and neither had said anything about it. Some fans think they are much more important than what we are. We fans have NO SAY SO in what goes on with the Cowboys or any other team. Well we do if enough stop watching but to think fans are the dating police on who a player can date and where they go especially when they have the blessing of the coach is moronic.
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Then why do you care what any fan thinks? Follow your own advice.

 

[gjkoeppen]

when you see averages across the league....then it evens out...seems like we want to surround Dak with the best of everything in order for him to be just good....Dak has never been elite passer.....

Nobody has said Prescott is an elite passer. Some just say he's not nearly as bad as the Prescott haters TRY to paint him as.
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[gjkoeppen]

Then why do you care what any fan thinks? Follow your own advice.

I really don't I just like to point out how moronic it is that some fans think they have such power.
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[CowboysFaninHouston]

Nobody has said Prescott is an elite passer. Some just say he's not nearly as bad as the Prescott haters TRY to paint him as.
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he is middle of a pack type of QB....as a passer lower ecehelon. but he is a good runner with size, so they use him that way sometimes his leadership abilities, desire and drive over come some of his lack of skills. I never said he was bad.....

 

[buybuydandavis]

As a reminder Dak is 23rd in the NFL in QBR. Top 5? Brees, Mahomes, Rivers, Goff and Wilson in that order.

Dak was 3rd in 2016, 4th in 2017 (really?).

I'd like to see his QBR calculated for the last 4 weeks.