NFC Championship projection?...Lambeau?

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Doomsday101;1844233 said:
True that is why they call it HFA and while I hate seeing championship games played in horriable conditions. I would much rather see 2 teams facing each other with the outcome determined by who played the best not who overcame the conditions the best. As for a neutral field I don't think that will happen because I do think the team with the best record deserves to play in front of their home crowd.

ok, then my compromise would be to play the game in Lambeau but wait until the temperature gets above freezing. I could accept that....:D

BTW, so much is made about the crown in the field at Texas Stadium. There was a writer who covered the last game between the two teams who wrote that he was really surprised about how big the crown is. He had never been there before. I thought when they replaced the field a few years ago they got rid of the crown. Is it that big of a factor???
 

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I don't know, that is why they call it home field advantage. Teams are just built to play on their surfaces. Dallas teams have always been built for speed.
So that's why you guys run it much better than you throw it?

And sorry, but this team definitely isn't built for speed. If anything, Parcells built it to be big, strong, and physical for nasty northeast winter weather.
 

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FloridaRob;1844246 said:
ok, then my compromise would be to play the game in Lambeau but wait until the temperature gets above freezing. I could accept that....:D

BTW, so much is made about the crown in the field at Texas Stadium. There was a writer who covered the last game between the two teams who wrote that he was really surprised about how big the crown is. He had never been there before. I thought when they replaced the field a few years ago they got rid of the crown. Is it that big of a factor???

They just resurfaced the field. The crown is still there.
 

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thudjones;1844245 said:
Some luck must have been involved in the Cowboys not winning at Lambeau -- the Packers were pretty bad from the early 70s to the late 80's and correspondingly the Cowboys were pretty good. Probably more coincidence than anything else that those Cowboys - Packers games played at the time in Wisconsin happened to be in Milwaukee instead of Lambeau.

I remembe a game from the 70's, I think it might have been Bart Starrs first win as a coach. Dalls was winning the whole game and I think all Dallas had to do was get a first down. The Dallas QB, (I think it was White) then bobbed his head during the snap count and a ref threw a flag. Packers got a huge break because all QBs did that then and still do it today. GreenBay got the ball and scored. Landry was irate. And deserved to be.....Refs gave the game to Green Bay or at least the chance to win....
 

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thudjones;1844245 said:
Some luck must have been involved in the Cowboys not winning at Lambeau -- the Packers were pretty bad from the early 70s to the late 80's and correspondingly the Cowboys were pretty good. Probably more coincidence than anything else that those Cowboys - Packers games played at the time in Wisconsin happened to be in Milwaukee instead of Lambeau.

No doubt. I'm sure some of those Packers teams could have handled us during the Campo years, too.
 

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FloridaRob;1844246 said:
ok, then my compromise would be to play the game in Lambeau but wait until the temperature gets above freezing. I could accept that....:D

BTW, so much is made about the crown in the field at Texas Stadium. There was a writer who covered the last game between the two teams who wrote that he was really surprised about how big the crown is. He had never been there before. I thought when they replaced the field a few years ago they got rid of the crown. Is it that big of a factor???

I would like it but football is football you play no matter what. Just because that is the case does not mean I want to see our Boys playing on an ice rink in minus temp conditions. I like our guys and would not wish that on them. :laugh2: As for the crown I know some say it is not there any longer and while it may not be as big it is still there and is noticeable on shots from one side line to the other where all you see is the coaches waist on up.
 

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I know I am rooting for the Vikings this weekend. They can eliminate the Commanders and give them that much less to play for the following week. If both Dallas and Washington win this weekend, that game will be hard fought.
 

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thudjones;1844211 said:
If there is an Ice Bowl 2, who has the advantage? I'd like to think the Packers, however, when I think about their offense and how it revolved around a precision passing attack with 3 to 5 recievers on the field at any given time and I'm not so sure the Cowboys might be better suited to playing in the elements. Oddly, the Packers are built for artificial turf more than anything else with all those jitterbug recievers like Driver and Jennings.

Very good point.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1844247 said:
And sorry, but this team definitely isn't built for speed. If anything, Parcells built it to be big, strong, and physical for nasty northeast winter weather.

Another very good point.
 

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kramskoi;1844179 said:
After the sunday collapse and injury situation, the consensus has the Cowboys finishing behind Green Bay, setting up the potential rematch at Lambeau Field in January.

Unless Green Bay falters in the next two games, Dallas will have a significant task at Washington, who may be fighting for the final remaining wild card spot.


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NFC:
Projected Division Winners
Dallas Cowboys 13-3
Green Bay Packers 14-2
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11-5
Seattle Seahawks 11-5

Wildcard teams
New York Giants 10-6
Washington Commanders 9-7

They're picking the Commanders to beat the Vikings and Cowboys?:(
 

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this article loses any credit because the saints are gonna be in the playoffs if they win out and the skins beat minny.
 

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Just for the heck of it, I looked up their preseason predictions for us this season:
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Dallas Cowboys 2007 NFL Projection:
The Cowboys enter 2007 with a new head coach in Wade Phillips, who takes over a Cowboys team that made the playoffs, only to lose on a hold gone wrong in Seattle.

Fans in Dallas are understandably excited to see what Tony Romo can do in a full season with the Cowboys. He certainly threw for a ton of yards in only a partial season.

However, we're not quite ready to proclaim Tony Romo as the next Tom Brady. Follow the logic... When Romo threw 5 TD's Thanksgiving versus Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers (3-7) at the time were playing their 3rd game in eleven days, and were clearly exhausted, had nothing to play for, and arguably mailed it in.

If you factor that game out, Romo threw 14 TD's and 13 INT's in his other appearances playing against teams with a combined record of (82-94). That's a winning percentage of .466, equating to an average opponent record of (7-8-1)... Not exactly the strongest slate of games.

Granted, you can only play against the teams on your schedule.

So then, how good is Romo?

Here's one proposed way of measuring... Of the six defenses in the league that held teams to under 300 points in 2006, the Cowboys will play four of them in 2007, including three in their first six games as follows;

@Miami
@Chicago
New England

Clearly if Romo puts up big numbers in these games, the Cowboys should be a force to be reckoned with all season long. And accordingly blow our prediction out of the water.

However, since we feel Romo is still a little "untested" based on the above strength of schedule analysis, it's hard to pencil them in for double digit wins.

To compare, the 2005 Cowboys with Drew Bledsoe faced 5 teams that ended up holding teams to under 300 points that season, going (2-3) in those games, and very nearly winning them all, if not for 3 short missed field goals.

Objectively, consider what the Cowboys were paying Bledsoe compared to what they're going to have to pay Romo. To determine if the Cowboys are really better off with the younger Romo, keep your eyes on the 3 games mentioned above to see how Romo plays against those defenses.

As for the rest of the Dallas squad, the Cowboys' offense is of course loaded with talent and experience, and should score plenty of points in most games.

It's the defensive unit that really needs to step up in 2007. One way to do so would be to surrender fewer long TD passes, especially in key situations; something that has crippled the Cowboys during the last two seasons.

Overall we're penciling in the Cowboys for a (9-7) record in 2007, mostly due to uncertainty about how Romo will perform against several stronger defenses compared to last season. If Romo plays as well as he did last season, but against this schedule, then there's tons of upside to these predictions. Likewise if the Cowboys' pass defense improves, these projections could also be blown out of the water.

Week Date
Opponent
Dallas Cowboys 2007 NFL Predictions
Week 1 Sep 9 N.Y. Giants Win Projected
Week 2 Sep 16 @Miami Loss Projected
Week 3 Sep 23 @Chicago Loss Projected
Week 4 Sep 30 St. Louis Win Projected
Week 5 Oct 8 @Buffalo Win Projected
Week 6 Oct 14 New England Loss Projected
Week 7 Oct 21 Minnesota Win Projected
Week 8 Oct 28 BYE Projected Record 4-3
Week 9 Nov 4 @Philadelphia Loss Projected
Week 10 Nov 11 @N.Y. Giants Loss Projected
Week 11 Nov 18 Washington Win Projected
Week 12 Nov 22 N.Y. Jets Win Projected
Week 13 Nov 29 Green Bay Win Projected
Week 14 Dec 9 @Detroit Win Projected
Week 15 Dec 16 Philadelphia Win Projected
Week 16 Dec 22 @Carolina Loss Projected
Week 17 Dec 30 @Washington Loss Projected
 

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lurkercowboy;1844231 said:
It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I don't think those divisional games will be easy for the Packers. Not will the Panthers and Commanders be easy for the Cowboys.

Nope.
 

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Am I missing something? The Cowboys throttled the Packers and now we'd be lucky to beat the Panthers and Commanders with backup QB's. I am extremely confident that we easily win our last two games.
 

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FloridaRob;1844192 said:
I am a big NY Mets fan. I liked their position too with 7 games left in the season. That went real well. Maybe you guys could feel some of the pain I felt in September. :D The only difference is that the Mets did not get into the playoffs and had the ultimate collapse. Dallas will get into the playoffs regardless. I still say that an IceBowl II would be epic.


so your a packers fan living in Florida who also likes the mets??

that is a strange conclusion to come to, due tell.
 

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Doomsday101;1844181 said:
At least Dallas controls their own destiny, you can’t ask for more than that. GB on the other hand has to win out and hope that Dallas loses. I like our position better than theirs.



Yes...

And... I think just like everyone said "prematurely" that the Cowboys vs Packers game would decide HFA throughout... Finishing the season with HFA throughout doesnt guarantee that either team makes it to NFC title game.

GB could easily lose their playoff game and not even make it to NFC title game.
 

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YoMick;1844438 said:
Yes...

And... I think just like everyone said "prematurely" that the Cowboys vs Packers game would decide HFA throughout... Finishing the season with HFA throughout doesnt guarantee that either team makes it to NFC title game.

GB could easily lose their playoff game and not even make it to NFC title game.

I agree. To face them Dallas has to win, I take no game for granted post-season or regular season. If you notice I'm not one who predicts these blow out games as so many do. Now like any fan yeah I will look ahead from time to time but I'm under no delusions that this is a cake walk or a sure thing. I do think if Dallas plays to their ability they can make it all the way if we don't then we can easily lose. Same holds true for the Packer as well as teams like the Pats.
 

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thudjones;1844211 said:
If there is an Ice Bowl 2, who has the advantage? I'd like to think the Packers, however, when I think about their offense and how it revolved around a precision passing attack with 3 to 5 recievers on the field at any given time and I'm not so sure the Cowboys might be better suited to playing in the elements. Oddly, the Packers are built for artificial turf more than anything else with all those jitterbug recievers like Driver and Jennings.

I was talking about this with a friend of mine who's a Minny fan the other day. Setting aside the issue of the home crowd, I was expecting GBs man coverage to be a liability in the cold weather at the end of the season and wasn't really expecting your running game to be as consistently good as it has been. Originally, I thought Dallas would have an advantage in the cold with its two huge lines, RBs, and the fact that some of our most important skill players (Romo, Barber) have experience in the cold. Now, I'm not so sure.

I don't want to go to GB in the playoffs under any circumstances, but it would be a heck of a game to watch.
 

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cowboys played well, romo was TERRIBLE. the loss was ALL on romo. if he goes back to normal we win out.
 
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