NFC East is praying we sign Owens

[riggo]

btw- 8 rec, 70 yards, 1 TD in 2 games is not 'owning' the skins.

research.

 

[Dcz84]

The difference between Key's antics and TO's antics is the difference between throwing a bullet and shooting it out of a gun.

Really,enlightin me as to why.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

While I can't stand T.O., it would be sweet if he came to Dallas, tore up the league and was never a problem with the team. Pipe dream for sure, but it would greatly tick off every other NFC East team.


Rich..........

 

[Tass]

Really,enlightin me as to why.

You are being intellectually dishonest, my friend. Just compare the amount of stories in the media and the thread count here at the Zone. Key is a hiccup compared to the explosive projectile vomit that is TO.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Really,enlightin me as to why.

Keyshawn never sold out his QB. Keyshawn never quit on plays or gave up on passes up the middle. Keyshawn would score a TD and hand a ball to a disabled child, T.O would score a TD and either mock the opponent or get out his sharpie on give an autograph to his rich business manager.

In reality, the only coach that Key was a problem with was Gruden. And while I like Gruden, I could chalk it up to those two having personalities that don't mix well together. T.O. has had serious issues with 3 different teams (SF, Baltimore, and Philly).

Those are just a tad bit different to me.


Rich....

 

[Tio]

the eagles got through the playoffs without TO.

The NFC was a joke that year. They beat an 8-8 Minnesota team and an Overrated Falcons team. Whoopdedoo!

 

[riggo]

The NFC was a joke that year. They beat an 8-8 Minnesota team and an Overrated Falcons team. Whoopdedoo!

that doesnt make your claim any more accurate.

 

[Idgit]

Only if you believe that TO actually can respect Parcells, I don't think TO knows what the word respect means to begin with. Bill has flat out told Key to shut up and Key backs off when Bill tells that to TO does he take it or does he throw a fit? TO has to prove himself as a changed man and until he does I have a lot of doubts about him.

Actually, I think TO is all about respect. He's just got a twisted view of what it is. I think his will to earn respect is why he holds himself to such high standards of conditioning and performance. I think his standards of respect are what got him in position to play with injury in the SuperBowl. Or why he catches 20 balls in Jerry Rice's last home game.

His reactions to a perceived *lack* of respect are what creates problems for him. See: Mariucci when he got suspended for standing on the star. See: Philly's FO made its mistakes with TO by allowing him to feel disrespected after the SuperBowl, or TO comparing himself to a player like McNabb who clearly can't make the physical and emotional commitments TO makes. See: Philly not recognizing his 100th TD catch, etc. See: how he reacts when he feels like Philly is disrespecting him with his compensation package, or why TO can't shake George Teague's hand after 4 years.

Dallas's challenge is to get him a contract and a situation where he'll feel he gets the respect he deserves. I don't know that that's possible, but that's the only way you manage TO. Problem is, you have no control over how much respect he thinks he deserves. It means money, and latitude. It means handling every situation exactly right or risking irreparable damage to his fragile ego. It means handling the press properly, and making sure teammates handle their business properly. It's a *huge* commitment.

It's also the reason I don't hate TO. I pity him, because I think his worldview is twisted. At the same time, I admire the fact that he can walk his talk--unbelievable considering the mouth on this guy. He's a science experiment. It's pointless to get too emotionally wrapped up in a science experiment. You either handle him, or you don't.

I think Parcells, with the emphasis he places on sports psychology, understands the deal and thinks he can probably handle him. I'm not so sure he can, but if he does, I think this one player instantly makes us contenders in the NFC.

 

[Tio]

btw- 8 rec, 70 yards, 1 TD in 2 games is not 'owning' the skins.

research.

Yep. And in the process of shutting TO down, Todd Pinkston had a 100 yard game, and Mcnabb had 4 tds. Great defensive effort. They obviously have the personnell it takes to shut TO down!


You guys did better the next time around, but you still lost! TO might not have owned the Commanders, but if he gets all of the Defensive attention, Dallas has a lot better supporting cast to burn you with than the 2004 eagles.

 

[Tio]

that doesnt make your claim any more accurate.

Uhh...what did I claim?

 

[felix360]

this is funny cuz this reminds of when JJ signed BP to coach the team, how everyone was saying they couldnt work together and that they would clash. where are those people now??

 

[Echo9]

The difference between Key's antics and TO's antics is the difference between throwing a bullet and shooting it out of a gun.

I like the analogy and agree.

A friend on mine, who is a die-hard Giants fan, is laughing at what's going on. He is looking forward to seeing TO in a Dallas uniform.

I've spoken with Commanders fans, and i've read opinions of Eagles fan.

Of this entire group, I have not heard one single person who is concerned about this. Every last one one of them is excited over the damage TO will do.

When TO went to the Eagles, I was also not worried. I knew what he'd do before that fact...and he did it. The Eagles are a mess now.

If, your rival is rooting for something to occur for your team, you shouldn't be rooting for the same thing. Really, it should tell ya something

 

[Concord]

Well if they're Prayers are answered...They are going to regret it when he starts scoring TD's on them.

They may be hoping the Owens will Start crap with Dallas...That MAY or May not happen But The TD's will Happen...

 

[riggo]

Yep. And in the process of shutting TO down, Todd Pinkston had a 100 yard game, and Mcnabb had 4 tds. Great defensive effort. They obviously have the personnell it takes to shut TO down!


You guys did better the next time around, but you still lost! TO might not have owned the Commanders, but if he gets all of the Defensive attention, Dallas has a lot better supporting cast to burn you with than the 2004 eagles.

you believe mcnabb and westbrook arent as good as what dallas currently has?

dallas better get some help. 20 points in 2 games (including zero through 3 1/2 quarters in game 2) is not impressive.

btw- i got your claim about TO and the playoffs mixed up with another poster, but if you didnt think TO 'guided' philly to the SB, why did you respond to my post with "the NFC was a joke..."?


and you still havent explained why TO signing would leapfrog the boys to the top of the division? can you find a single NFL analyst who would agree with you? good luck....

 

[wileedog]

I was overjoyed when Philly signed him because I knew he'd wreck their team.

I wonder how many people were "overjoyed" when he was playing in the Superbowl 2 years ago?

 

[Concord]

I wonder how many people were "overjoyed" when he was playing in the Superbowl 2 years ago?

I wasn't at all...

 

[lspain1]

you believe mcnabb and westbrook arent as good as what dallas currently has?

dallas better get some help. 20 points in 2 games (including zero through 3 1/2 quarters in game 2) is not impressive.

btw- i got your claim about TO and the playoffs mixed up with another poster, but if you didnt think TO 'guided' philly to the SB, why did you respond to my post with "the NFC was a joke..."?


and you still havent explained why TO signing would leapfrog the boys to the top of the division? can you find a single NFL analyst who would agree with you? good luck....

Riggo, not picking a fight here, but the answer to your leapfrog question goes to how many points on average Dallas will score with and without someone like TO. Dallas had a number of games last year where we failed to score more than 14 points. Those types of games require a defense to perform extraordinary feats to win. You might win one every now and then but your odds aren't good.

So, to continue based on last year's scores, if TO is worth as much as an additional TD in every loss the Cowboys' record improves by 4 games. That is enought to leapfrog the division. Now, you can certainly argue that TO could not have helped the Cowboys that much in those games because the Cowboys had other problems.

The Cowboys played in a lot of close games last year. If TO was worth as much as 3 points on average then the Cowboys not only go to the playoffs, but end up in Seattle and maybe Detroit. It is NOT farfetched to believe he might have that kind of impact. I'm not saying he would/will, but it is very possible based on TO's stats from previous years.

 

[garyv]

You are wrong stating the NFC East is wanting the Boyz to sign TO because they are not wanting us to sign TO. He is a weapon that requires Defenses to alter the Defensive Schem in order to prevent the big play. So in reality most NFC East teams would rather him play in the AFC.

 

[1fisher]

Could we mark these posts somehow so I don't waste time opening them?

If TO is in the title.... don't open! Plus, you only have 6 or 7 posts.... what's the big deal?

 

[SouthernStar]

With Owens we leapfrog all 3 teams, atleast for this year.

Did you ever play leapfrog and the guy behind you DIDN'T jump? Thats what we get with Terrell Owens!