NFCE Wide Receiver Blog... Is Age Really Just a Number?

[Eskimo]

Ok.

I like your honesty ...just curious, where would you place Moulds/Walker on that WR list depicted earlier in this thread?

1. TO (closed/locked)
2.
3.
4.
5.

Call it!

The new list including Key, Walker, Moulds:

1. TO
2. Moss
3. Walker (could be #2 if recovered from injury)
4. Glenn
5. Plax
6. Moulds
7. Keyshawn
8. Toomer
9. Brown
10. Randel-El
11. Gaffney

 

[Portland Fanatic]

Ok.

I like your honesty ...just curious, where would you place Moulds/Walker on that WR list depicted earlier in this thread?

1. TO (closed/locked)
2. Walker/Moss
3. Plaxico/Glenn
4. Keys/Toomer/Moulds
5. Randel El/
6. Brown (has big upside)

Call it!

Personally I really like Walker...I wanted to trade for him and not get TO. His knee is obviously a ??, however if he's 100% healthy he can be a very very good #1 on any team. He's young with an entire career in front of him.

Walker and Moss are completely different WR's, but impact and ability I put them close together...same scenario as Plax and Glenn...IMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

#1 TO
#2 Moss/Plaxico
#3 Toomer/Glenn
#4 Randle El
#5 Brown/Gaffney

Look, I'm changing it only because you are in a position to know Glenn's capabilities ..I'll have to take your word for it. But here's a question ...if KeShawn had made it clear that he was willing to play on the same team as TO ...HERE IT COMES ...would Cowboy GM have released Glenn?

I'm say yes! If Not ...explain!

No. Glenn was never a threat to leave Dallas, KJ was. TO was signed and immediatly after that, KJ became a focus because he was an FA and he was talking to teams. The timing of who was signed when is a none issue. The team intended to sign both players effectively giving us three real threats in a three WR set. The fact that we couldn't sign KJ is unfortunate but it doesn't relate to the teams intent to sign Glenn. Glenn is still the speed threat in the Dallas offense. He's still the best route runner and will have the best hands, even over TO. TO is the better receiver only because he's slightly less gifted then Glenn and has much more size. Glenn was never leaving Dallas IMO. The plan was always to have three WRs.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I would not agree with this.

Moss had a good season last year, as did Burress but I don't know that I would consider either better then Glenn. Toomer, IMO, is not even in the running and while Randle El is an exciting player, he's not the WR threat some of these others are, at this point.

Consider, Moss I view as a vertical threat, for the most part. I think he has improved in his route running ability but I wouldn't call him exceptional in this part of his game. Burress uses his size well and catches balls but he's also not a great route runner IMO. Consider, Moss was the #1 option by a wide margin in NY. More opportunities to catch balls if you will. In Washington there was Moss with 84 catches for 1483 and 9 TDs but that was it. Next best WR was Thrash with 14 catches/194 yards, 0 TDs. Cooley (71 catches, 774 yards and 7 TDs) was the only other real option. You look at Burress and he did do a nice job with 76 catches, 1214 yards and 7 TDs but I don't think he's as skilled a WR as Glenn is. 14 more catches, 78 more yards then Glenn. I will say that he did play in a more balanced offense then did Moss but certainly not a more balanced offense then Glenn. Toomer, while a decent WR, does not belong in this discussion IMO. 60 Catches last year for 684 yards and 7 TDs, a nice year but not enough to say he's better then Glenn. The year prior to, his numbers were about the same. More yards but not as many catches or TDs. On the other hand, you look at what Glenn did last year and you context it with the fact that KJ caught 71 balls for 839 yards, 6 TDs. Throw in Witten and I think you have to say that Glenn deserves much more credit then 4th or 5th on this list. Moss, IMO, had better stats but not as much productivity given the situation. Burress had like productivity in a like offense. He had a WR on the other side who caught some balls, he had a TE who was very productive and a running game, just like Glenn did but he was also the #1 WR in his offense. Glenn was not the primary guy, IMO, in our offense. I think that was KJ last year. Add to the fact that if you break down Burress and Glenn, I think you have to say that Glenn is the faster, quicker player. He's a better deep threat and he runs better routes. Also, has better hands IMO. Burress is the bigger stronger player. Overall, I think Glenn is better.

I'd say he's probably the 2nd best WR in the NFC right now, just behind TO.

However, I'm willing to listen to arguments on it.

That was a Nice in-depth breakdown ABQCOWBOY ...that said, give me your list...

1. TO (I'll assume)
2. Glenn (?)
3.
4.
5.

We'll talk again when I see where you're going with the list.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

The new list including Key, Walker, Moulds:

1. TO
2. Moss
3. Walker (could be #2 if recovered from injury)
4. Glenn
5. Plax
6. Moulds
7. Keyshawn
8. Toomer
9. Brown
10. Randel-El
11. Gaffney

Looks like Randle El is highly overrated ...do you agree? I have a feeling the Eagles will not get Walker (although it would be nice to be wrong in this instance).

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That was a Nice in-depth breakdown ABQCOWBOY ...that said, give me your list...

1. TO (I'll assume)
2. Glenn (?)
3.
4.
5.

We'll talk again when I see where you're going with the list.

I guess it depends on if we are adding Moulds and Walker into the mix.

If added:

1. TO
2. Walker (assuming recovery)
3. Glenn
4. Burress
5. Moss
6. Moulds
7. Toomer
8. Brown (Will move up this list)
9. Randel-El
10 Gaffney (This guy I don't get. He should be better then he is. Could be a Texan thing.)

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I guess it depends on if we are adding Moulds and Walker into the mix.

If added:

1. TO
2. Walker (assuming recovery)
3. Glenn
4. Burress
5. Moss
6. Moulds
7. Toomer
8. Brown (Will move up this list)
9. Randel-El
10 Gaffney (This guy I don't get. He should be better then he is. Could be a Texan thing.)

This is a fair list.

 

[Eskimo]

Looks like Randle El is highly overrated ...do you agree? I have a feeling the Eagles will not get Walker (although it would be nice to be wrong in this instance).

Randle El is a good as a jack of all trades - he is a good #3 WR, return specialist and is excellent for trick plays. I do not regard his skills highly at the WR position and believe him to be no better than an adequate #2 WR. For all the talk about his speed and big-play ability he has very few TDs, very few big plays in the receiving game and a poor ypc average.

I do not believe he has ever cracked 600 yards receiving in a single season. Now the Pittsburgh offense is heavily run orientated but Plax and Ward did put up good numbers in the same offensive system.

I think the Skins overpaid for him. I think Lloyd will actually be the #2 WR in Washington by the time TC is over.

 

[Rustinpeace21]

what about Lloyd? I think hes better than Gaffney, espcially since he had Alex smith throwing him eggs all year