NFL Heading For a Lockout, According to NFLPA President.

Revenue for the TV Networks is dropping. Has been for a while. The NEXT TV contract will not have a huge increase as the last ones have. DIRECTV might increase since it is the only one involved that is increasing viewership. But CBS, NBC, ABC will not be able to increase over what they have been putting out now. Certainly will not be the huge increases we have seen up to now. It had to end sooner or later.
 
Since I watch high school, college and pro football on tv, I'm sure someone will fill the void if one segmemt goes away for awhile.
 
While some might disagree, NFLPA has been a house union since the 1987 strike. It will bend over when the time is right.

There already is the crappy cap which only hurts real franchises while helping parasites, revenue sharing which again hurts real franchises and helps parasites.

The NFL owners have already won, all they can do is pay less to rookies and keep more revenue.

NFLPA will never win back no salary cap and in the end, they will just screw rookies who aren't union members yet.

NFLPA will cave in as it has no leverage.
 
I had no respect for Upshaw mainly due to the way he ignored the older retired players. But those that say he failed are really morons: the guy got his union a contract last time that would make any other union leader green with envy. It was so good the owners only realized after the fact that they got shafted. You look at how much the players make; FA has been an incredible windfall for many; and that all came under his watch. The brutal facts of the financial world and reality means that it cannot keep happening that way; there are several owners that are not all that sound right now; and with public financing of stadiums pretty much gone, the owners are going to have to help the weaker franchises with stadium money;that money is going to have to come from the players side.
 
burmafrd;3409184 said:
I had no respect for Upshaw mainly due to the way he ignored the older retired players. But those that say he failed are really morons: the guy got his union a contract last time that would make any other union leader green with envy. It was so good the owners only realized after the fact that they got shafted. You look at how much the players make; FA has been an incredible windfall for many; and that all came under his watch. The brutal facts of the financial world and reality means that it cannot keep happening that way; there are several owners that are not all that sound right now; and with public financing of stadiums pretty much gone, the owners are going to have to help the weaker franchises with stadium money;that money is going to have to come from the players side.
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I couldn't stand Gene Upshaw as a player, I disliked him as a person, and I hated him as the union president. His treatment of his own former teammates, like Jim Otto, was reprehensible to say the least. He was scum in my book although the union members had many reasons to love him.

His threats to fellow HoFer Joe DeLamielleure were criminal IMO. I am not at all sad that he is gone.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;3409171 said:
While some might disagree, NFLPA has been a house union since the 1987 strike. It will bend over when the time is right.

There already is the crappy cap which only hurts real franchises while helping parasites, revenue sharing which again hurts real franchises and helps parasites.

The NFL owners have already won, all they can do is pay less to rookies and keep more revenue.

NFLPA will never win back no salary cap and in the end, they will just screw rookies who aren't union members yet.

NFLPA will cave in as it has no leverage.
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Revenue sharing was a demand from the NFLPA. The NFLPA has not shown any desire to screw the rookies (much to the dismay of many of the veteran players). The NFLPA chooses to screw the retirees.

If rookie contracts are pared down (which they should be), the salary cap will not be affected. The owners will not be able to pocket the savings. The rookie savings will simply go to veteran players.
 
burmafrd;3409086 said:
Revenue for the TV Networks is dropping. Has been for a while. The NEXT TV contract will not have a huge increase as the last ones have. DIRECTV might increase since it is the only one involved that is increasing viewership..
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I don't know about that one. I just don't see how, in this economy, D-TV is getting more people to purchase the Sunday Ticket when it costs $315, without the high def or any other bells and whistles. I know for a fact they lost at least one customer ( me ) because of their insane price increase, and I don't think I'm alone.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;3409171 said:
While some might disagree, NFLPA has been a house union since the 1987 strike. It will bend over when the time is right.

There already is the crappy cap which only hurts real franchises while helping parasites, revenue sharing which again hurts real franchises and helps parasites..
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There wouldn't be an NFL if it wasn't for what you call " parasites ".. The small market teams are anything BUT parasites. They just think it's not entirely fair that big market teams get to use the league to make extra money that they don't want to share and the small market teams may have a point.

Yea, Jerrah Jones and other big market teams work hard to get local sponsors and other deals ( I believe it's luxury suites, but I could be wrong ) that do not go into the general revenue sharing funds and they deserve to keep as much as they can, but neither the Dallas Cowboys or any other big market team would be nearly as popular if the league consisted of only 11 or so teams that play in what's considered big markets, which means the opportunity wouldn't be there to begin with.

To call them parasites is completely off the mark.
 
Randy White;3409585 said:
I don't know about that one. I just don't see how, in this economy, D-TV is getting more people to purchase the Sunday Ticket when it costs $315, without the high def or any other bells and whistles. I know for a fact they lost at least one customer ( me ) because of their insane price increase, and I don't think I'm alone.
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Myself included. I already catch all Cowboy games on the television now. I took the ticket two years removed. Now, that would seat my wife and I comfortably at a home game.
 
Randy White;3409601 said:
There wouldn't be an NFL if it wasn't for what you call " parasites ".. The small market teams are anything BUT parasites. They just think it's not entirely fair that big market teams get to use the league to make extra money that they don't want to share and the small market teams may have a point.

Yea, Jerrah Jones and other big market teams work hard to get local sponsors and other deals ( I believe it's luxury suites, but I could be wrong ) that do not go into the general revenue sharing funds and they deserve to keep as much as they can, but neither the Dallas Cowboys or any other big market team would be nearly as popular if the league consisted of only 11 or so teams that play in what's considered big markets, which means the opportunity wouldn't be there to begin with.

To call them parasites is completely off the mark.
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Your post as socially redeemable feautures to the overall view...but what about when those same owner pocket the additional revenues as well and do nothing about player/team improvements as a consequence of increased pockets?
 
CCBoy;3409630 said:
Your post as socially redeemable feautures to the overall view...but what about when those same owner pocket the additional revenues as well and do nothing about player/team improvements as a consequence of increased pockets?
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I don't think there are teams in the NFL who do that. The league's front office wouldn't allow it just based on the " perception " angle, which they guard jealously.. Yea the Raidus stink, but it's not because they don't spend money, neither do the Lions or Rams. Nobody can say that Cleveland doesn't spend after the disasters they've been going through the last few years.

It's not like MLB ( Marlins ) or NBA ( Clippers ), who are so blatant about it that even Bud stepped in and forced the Marlins to spend more.

The NFL is a true partnership in that regard.
 
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