NFL held an owners-only meeting in Arizona

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is he basically saying "we all have to deal with this, so why make the players accountable for a job"?

The players will stand there during contracts and say "this is business" Okay it is, business says you cant smoke weed and you get compensated very well for it" Why have any standards at some point?
 

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is he basically saying "we all have to deal with this, so why make the players accountable for a job"?

The players will stand there during contracts and say "this is business" Okay it is, business says you cant smoke weed and you get compensated very well for it" Why have any standards at some point?

Yes, the business says that.

That's why they are trying to change the rules.

Most jobs that compensate their players very well do not force their employees to take random drug tests for marijuana.
 

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Thanks for posting in Fan Zone @fishspill. Good read and good stances by Jerry and his faction of owners in support. As the piece stated, change isn't imminent but it has to begin somewhere.

I also think it is narrow minded to suggest that the only reason Jerry has taken this stance is solely because of Randy Gregory, DLaw, Ro McClain, the ongoing investigation into Zeke Elliott, etc. It is possible that his perspective has evolved as human beings tend to do. I have been a proponent of the League allowing the legal system to handle matters and then the League can act accordingly, like how the NBA commissioners, MLB commissioners, NHL commissioners and all other NFL commissioners have done. Further, the Nations views on Marijuana has evolved and is continuing to evolve as evidenced by voters in several states legalizing it for not only medicinal but for recreational use as well.

The issue of how much the NFL commissioner gets paid and who actually decides it seems like a reasonable stance as well.

Good read.
 

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From Newsfeed Zone.

The part some of you may be most interested in is Jerry suggesting lifting the ban on marijuana.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/02/nfl-held-an-owners-only-meeting-in-arizona/
Honestly testing for Weed is kinda dumb... it's not steroids... if anything it'll hurt ur performance, if someone wants to make it harder on them self let them...

If I were a professional athlete with medical issues, I'd want a safer alternative to addictive meds.
 

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weed is great to dull pain and help players sleep. now i'm not stupid enough to believe that's why the majority of players take it but isn't making something available for pain management a good thing? getting players off of harmful, strong prescriptions?
 

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weed is great to dull pain and help players sleep. now i'm not stupid enough to believe that's why the majority of players take it but isn't making something available for pain management a good thing? getting players off of harmful, strong prescriptions?
This exactly! As long as they're not showing up at the facility, practice, or game day high...
 

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Glad Jerry an owner is finally bringing this up.

Adult Recreational Marijuana use is now legal in 8 states and DC.

There are 7 teams in the league that call such place home.

Just get rid of the rule. No one cares anymore.
 

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Question...

I am assuming Goodell would have to sign off on any agreement between the owners and the NFLPA.

Would my assumptions be accurate?

I'm pretty sure there are probably enough owners that are fed up with having their players suspended over a joint that is more than just a fantasy considering the NFLPA would agree.
 

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From Newsfeed Zone.

The part some of you may be most interested in is Jerry suggesting lifting the ban on marijuana.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/02/nfl-held-an-owners-only-meeting-in-arizona/

I don't think Jerry is just thinking about his own player issues. It makes business sense to quit testing. Having starting players suspended is not good for business, even if they don't have to pay them.

The suspensions for weed make the NFL look worse, not better to the public.

The criminal conduct investigations by the NFL are also dumb.. The NFL should let law enforcement investigate crimes. Then it would be simple to have specific punishments for specific crimes committed.

The issue with Zeke and his ex-girlfriend is a perfect example. She got mad because he broke up with her, so she made up some story. The NFLs current policy makes it so easy for people like this girl to basically blackmail players. The player does not have to be proven guilty to end up suspended. Zeke did get suspended but other players have in similar situations.

The wording in the article on the part about Jerry being "reminded" of the CBA is silly. Jerry obviously knows about the CBA. Everyone already knows that the Owners would want something in return for giving up the testing for weed. Jerry is talking to the owners. He is obviously telling them that they should decide that they are willing to eliminate the testing. They have to make that decision among themselves, before they get into what they request from the players union in return.


Jones also raised the question of the NFL’s position on marijuana. Jones, per a source who heard the comments, wants the league to drop its prohibition on marijuana use. Jones was reminded that the issue falls under the umbrella of collective bargaining, which would require the players to make one or more concessions in exchange for significant changes to the marijuana prohibition.

Separately, the league office reiterated to PFT its position that any changes to the substance-abuse policy would occur within the confines of labor negotiations, and that the league is willing to listen to the medical community about any potential changes to the rules regarding marijuana.

Jones likewise urged an end to the practice of investigating off-field misconduct. The NFL became more proactive regarding these issues after the Ray Rice situation forced the league to no longer defer to the criminal justice system, which often imposes insufficient sanctions for clear acts of misbehavior.

A league spokesman told PFT that the NFL continues to maintain its commitment to pursuing investigations that are relevant and meaningful, and that the league office always looks to be efficient when conducting investigations.
 

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Question...

I am assuming Goodell would have to sign off on any agreement between the owners and the NFLPA.

Would my assumptions be accurate?

I'm pretty sure there are probably enough owners that are fed up with having their players suspended over a joint that is more than just a fantasy considering the NFLPA would agree.

Goodell and every NFL Commissioner works for the Owners. So if a majority of them are in favor of a change in these NFL Policies, in exchange for the NFLPA and the players giving up something else beneficial to the owners per labor negotiations, then Goodell is compelled to acquiesce. If he takes the stance that he will not follow his bosses wishes then he can be removed under Article VI Section 6.5(G) of the NFL's Constitution and Bylaws by the Executive Committee. The Executive Committee is composed of one representative and one alternate representative of each of the 32 clubs, appointed by their respective teams. The members must be either Owners or holders of an interest or officers of member clubs in the League, and each member holds one vote. In Article VI Section 6.6 it states: “All actions and decisions of the Executive Committee must be approved by the affirmative vote of not less than three-fourths or 20, whichever is greater, of the members of the Executive Committee.”

So he either acts how they want him to act or faces removal if 3/4ths or 20 members go against him.
 
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