News: NFL making changes to game ball security procedures

[Nav22]

I honestly don't know what he meant. One of the text messages sent by Jastremski's friend in the middle of Green Bay game said "Deflate and give somebody that jacket." Tell me how the word "deflate" refers to footballs in that context.

Really.... Looking over years of text messages and phone calls, and that's the best they found??? He called himself "the deflator". Never said anything about deflating below the legal level, never said anything about deflating after the balls have passed inspection, never said anything about Brady telling him to deflate, and the physical evidence shows no deflation took place (beyond what the laws of physics say should have taken place). Just a guy who used a workplace term in a strange way. That's it. That is so weak as to be laughable.
This is a ridiculous question. You have a story about football gaining national steam. Why in the world would you think Brady wouldn't call the equipment guy to figure out what the hell was going on???
Uh gee, I wonder.... one of the most famous athletes in the country, who happens to be married to one of the most famous women on the planet, didn't want to provide his personal communications to the leak factory of the NFL.
Only a dope could look at balls that are in range of where they are supposed to be according to those silly little laws of physics and conclude they were illegally deflated.

LOL. He referred to himself as "the deflator" and a ton of other texts were CLEARLY referring to deflating footballs. Takes a special kind of apologist to pretend it's not at the VERY least VERY, VERY LIKELY that he was calling himself the deflator of footballs. But you're clearly a closet Pats fan with an agenda so I don't expect you to be unbiased.


As for Brady's refusal to cooperate with the investigation, the NFL emphasized to Brady that procedural safeguards were in place to protect the privacy of Brady and of the Patriots. He still refused and that led to the suspension. But it's adorable how you defend your guy and pretend the league was ready to leak Giselle's nudie pics to TMZ or something. Again, takes a special kind of apologist.

Hahahah if there was nothing shady going on, why exactly would Brady need to spend THAT much time talking to the guy? Including an in-person meeting in a team meeting room!! Sounds like a couple of scam-artists that needed to get their stories straight.

Oh, Brady also pretended to not even know the ballboy, which was proven to be a flat-out LIE.

One last thing:

Text from ballboy 1 to ballboy 2: "Tom sucks.. I'm going to make his next ball a f---ing balloon."

Ballboy 2's response, 1 min 23 sec later: "Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done."

But I'm sure that to a blind Pats fan, this doesn't even qualify as fishy. So I'm sorry I've wasted your time, but congrats on the Super Bowl W!

 

[Floatyworm]

wonder how the pats will figure out a different way to cheat this year, sure it will be something they do

Hint.....they have been doing it for years. They get caught this year....Just watch....because the NFL finally cracks down. So what is it? Have you ever put deodorant/anti-perspirant on a football?

Will give Gillette stadium a whole new meaning

 

[MapleLeaf]

There are 32 starting quarterbacks in the league that would vehemently protest such a system. I would have no problem if they made that change, but the QB's of the NFL would. As I mentioned in another post, they literally spends weeks, if not months, prepping gameday balls to get them precisely to their liking.

By the way, if each team is allowed to prep their own balls, then how in the world does that give any one team an advantage??

The real answer is not to cling to some methodology to support your beliefs. The topic is divisive. Your contribution is divisive.

If you are supporting a solution to move forward for the entire forum then I would suggest considering the league supplies all balls to both teams in a standardized fashion with no customization by any of the 32 teams and QBs.

Oddly enough as one argues some form of comfort level or competitive advantage for the QBs of the league where does that leave the back up QBs when they enter into the game?

If everyone really gave a darn about a level playing field then league imposed game balls is the solution. IMO.

 

[MeTed]

The real answer is not to cling to some methodology to support your beliefs. The topic is divisive. Your contribution is divisive.

If you are supporting a solution to move forward for the entire forum then I would suggest considering the league supplies all balls to both teams in a standardized fashion with no customization by any of the 32 teams and QBs.

Oddly enough as one argues some form of comfort level or competitive advantage for the QBs of the league where does that leave the back up QBs when they enter into the game?

If everyone really gave a darn about a level playing field then league imposed game balls is the solution. IMO.

+1 allowing teams to prep the balls is what introduced the controversy in the first place. As a consequence, the NFL intervenes and takes control. Someone earlier in the thread proposed a very simple system to oversee.... 12 balls used by both teams; all balls prepped by the NFL. In short, the teams get a ball in the 12.5 - 13.5 PSI range which is regulated by the NFL. Maintains a line of accountability and seems very simple in comparison to what they actually adopted. Prohibiting teams from prepping balls removes all controversy.

 

[Rogah]

LOL. He referred to himself as "the deflator" and a ton of other texts were CLEARLY referring to deflating footballs. Takes a special kind of apologist to pretend it's not at the VERY least VERY, VERY LIKELY that he was calling himself the deflator of footballs. But you're clearly a closet Pats fan with an agenda so I don't expect you to be unbiased.

Like I said, that's you biggest smoking gun, which is pretty pathetic to anyone who thinks about it.

The guy called himself "The Deflator." Nowhere does he talk about deflating balls below their legal limit, nowhere does he talk about deflating balls after inspection, nowhere does he talk about doing either of the above with Brady's knowledge or approval.

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As for Brady's refusal to cooperate with the investigation, the NFL emphasized to Brady that procedural safeguards were in place to protect the privacy of Brady and of the Patriots.

Anyone that has faith in the NFL's "safeguards" is welcome to buy some prime Florida swampland. PM me for details.

 

[Rogah]

The real answer is not to cling to some methodology to support your beliefs. The topic is divisive. Your contribution is divisive.

If you are supporting a solution to move forward for the entire forum then I would suggest considering the league supplies all balls to both teams in a standardized fashion with no customization by any of the 32 teams and QBs.

I would have no problem with that. However I can name 32 starting QBs that would.

Oddly enough as one argues some form of comfort level or competitive advantage for the QBs of the league where does that leave the back up QBs when they enter into the game?

If everyone really gave a darn about a level playing field then league imposed game balls is the solution. IMO.

Setting aside the deflategate nonsense, how does the current system create a non-level playing field? If both teams are allowed to customize their gameday balls, how is that an unfair advantage to either team?

 

[Nav22]

Like I said, that's you biggest smoking gun, which is pretty pathetic to anyone who thinks about it.

The guy called himself "The Deflator." Nowhere does he talk about deflating balls below their legal limit, nowhere does he talk about deflating balls after inspection, nowhere does he talk about doing either of the above with Brady's knowledge or approval.
Anyone that has faith in the NFL's "safeguards" is welcome to buy some prime Florida swampland. PM me for details.

Hahahaha your closet Pats fandom is adorable, bro. Seriously, congrats on the Super Bowl W! They can't take it away from you.

As for Brady's non-cooperation due to the supposed fear that the NFL might leak personal/private material from his cell phone...

Investigators offered to allow Brady's counsel to screen and control the production so that it would be limited strictly to responsive materials and would not involve their taking possession of Brady’s telephone or other electronic devices.

 

[Nav22]

Like I said, that's you biggest smoking gun, which is pretty pathetic to anyone who thinks about it.

The guy called himself "The Deflator." Nowhere does he talk about deflating balls below their legal limit, nowhere does he talk about deflating balls after inspection, nowhere does he talk about doing either of the above with Brady's knowledge or approval.
Anyone that has faith in the NFL's "safeguards" is welcome to buy some prime Florida swampland. PM me for details.

And hey, what do you know!? Brady's suspension has been upheld.

Turns out your boy had his cell phone DESTROYED right before he was to meet with Ted Wells. Because an innocent person would totally do that!

You should be thoroughly embarrassed and I'm sure you are.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I would have no problem with that. However I can name 32 starting QBs that would.
Setting aside the deflategate nonsense, how does the current system create a non-level playing field? If both teams are allowed to customize their gameday balls, how is that an unfair advantage to either team?

The word customize denotes something done out of the standard or ordinary.

Once you introduce such an element to a culture such as professional sports what do you expect to happen?

Do you honestly believe it is a system designed to create a level playing field? If
I was a cold weather team running with a deflated ball is infinitely better than a plump hard melon.

Playing up here in Canada the ball's inflation made a big deal. Just from a grip perspective and I don't have large hands.

It's been a while since I have worked with a football in cold weather, but I suspect losing a pound of psi is going to make the ball feel soften and easier to grip. But hey that's me.

The advantage would come from the level of understanding a certain player has on the football and how under inflation affects the handling of the ball.

For a team like NE knowing under inflation makes the ball easier to handle in cold weather may be the difference in whether you cough up the ball or not in a tackle.

Just my opinion.