Twitter: NFL may be trying to make an example out of Zeke

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So what if YOU think they’re dumb? You’re not the one who signed a contract agreeing to a certain set of standards and codes of conduct. What don’t you understand about this? It’s not me making the qualifiers, it’s the league and that’s their right.

My employer has a certain set of standards and a very large “book” detailing codes of conduct. Whether you, I or Joe Schmoe think they’re stupid doesn’t matter. I have to abide by them if I don’t want to face disciplinary action and remain employed.

Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
Are you saying that he broke his contract? Saying "High profile NFL player" is a qualifier. If it's not because of the celebrity, then just say he broke his contract.

What I think is dumb is people making an incident more than it is because he's an athlete. Not whether or not the rules are dumb.
 

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It was not a nothing incident no matter how many times you try to convince yourself of it.

And it has nothing to do with vindictive. It has to do with sending a message to an idiot player who simply fails to get the previous message through his thick skull.

You are basically you trying to argue Elliott is some sort of victim here, which is absolutely laughable.

Wanna know why Zeke keeps doing stupid stuff? Because he's surrounded by people like you that tell him it's no big deal what he does.
How do you know who he’s surrounded by unless you’re arpund him? Maybe he makes bad decisions on his own.
 

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It was not a nothing incident no matter how many times you try to convince yourself of it.

And it has nothing to do with vindictive. It has to do with sending a message to an idiot player who simply fails to get the previous message through his thick skull.

You are basically you trying to argue Elliott is some sort of victim here, which is absolutely laughable.

Wanna know why Zeke keeps doing stupid stuff? Because he's surrounded by people like you that tell him it's no big deal what he does.
You're calling him an idiot.

Should you lose a couple million dollars if someone says something bad and you get in his face? People have a bad habit of not putting themselves in that position.

I didn't say he's a victim. Why do you always put words in my mouth? good grief.
 

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I think the conspiracy was that they were trying to make an example out of Zeke and yes he was a victim of that conspiracy.
He hasn’t done any favor for himself since, if he gets in trouble for this it’s on him.
 

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The sports world is full of trouble makers. Baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer. Athletes are a slice of society. Parents cover up for their children. I don't see jerry as any worse than any other owner. "We're aware of the matter and are gathering more information " is the new buzzword in sports.
Has he ever, ever, one time shown any desire to discipline his own team? Do you think most GM's would deny their HC the ability increase fines for players showing a lack of discipline and respect?

I know some will say that's the problem with the owner being the GM but he would have interfered with a GM, just as he did with his HC.

Booger wants to be their buddies, pal around and most of all, be liked. He's the ultimate players' owner and that has been the undoing of his coaches. They know Booger won't let any coach do a damn thing discipline wise.
 

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The sports world is full of trouble makers. Baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer. Athletes are a slice of society. Parents cover up for their children. I don't see jerry as any worse than any other owner. "We're aware of the matter and are gathering more information " is the new buzzword in sports.
I think some fans expect or feel entitled to have players be role models.
 

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Are you saying that he broke his contract? Saying "High profile NFL player" is a qualifier. If it's not because of the celebrity, then just say he broke his contract.

What I think is dumb is people making an incident more than it is because he's an athlete. Not whether or not the rules are dumb.
It's certainly amplified by him being a celebrity. I mean, how long were they following him around recording? Lol, not excusing him of being a sloppy drunk......
 

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Destroyed arguments? Yeah, I'd say it's awful pathetic to even suggest a thing, let alone keep track of. Or that you think anything you posted made me upset, lmao. What a child.
I dunno if someone still takes your lunch money, but I've seen better flops in the NBA.

"Security!"

Yes, the security guard should have just warped through the barrier or Zeke - you're right, it was just a "flop".

The absolute state of this forum LOL
 

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Tyrone Crawford's incident seemed far worse.
Exactly. I'm convinced some ppl just don't like Zeke and if he does anything "news worthy" no matter how trivial they'll go off and overblow the situation.

The guy needs an apology from the fence more than Zeke. Also, if he had stood up instead of backing up that fence would've got em...weak Bro.
 

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Exactly. I'm convinced some ppl just don't like Zeke and if he does anything "news worthy" no matter how trivial they'll go off and overblow the situation.

The guy needs an apology from the fence more than Zeke. Also, if he had stood up instead of backing up that fence would've got em...weak Bro.

Who defended Crawford?
 

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Both Stephen and Jerry both have come out saying it's a non-issue.
And? Those are his bosses. Just because they don’t think it’s a big deal doesn’t mean others don’t so again unless you hang around him how do you know?
 

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You're calling him an idiot.

Should you lose a couple million dollars if someone says something bad and you get in his face? People have a bad habit of not putting themselves in that position.

I didn't say he's a victim. Why do you always put words in my mouth? good grief.

He didn't lose money because someone said something to his face, he may potentially lose money because he was warned to keep straight or face a harsher punishment in the future.

Also, there is no substantial evidence the guard said anything "Bad", that is still some Twitter posting you bought into due to confirmation bias.
 

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Yep.. That's the problem.

This would never be heard about again if it was any other player. Dallas just gets it handed to them in these situations.

Sorry, that should have read "conduct detrimental to the league."

I do think playing for a more high-profile team like Dallas affects how these situations are handled. Negative news about players for a lot of the teams doesn't go far or last long like it does for Dallas players. However, the league's punishment should be based on the offense, not how much media coverage it receives.
 

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You're calling him an idiot.

Should you lose a couple million dollars if someone says something bad and you get in his face? People have a bad habit of not putting themselves in that position.

I didn't say he's a victim. Why do you always put words in my mouth? good grief.

One, I am calling him an idiot because he's acting like an idiot.

Two, you absolutely are calling him a victim when you use words like the league is being vindictive here, etc. How else is one to interpret you when you say if Zeke gets in trouble here it's because the league is being vindictive?

Three, when you sign up to make millions in the NFL you have to abide by their rules and their code of conduct. If you continually do dumb stuff off the field, even if you think it's minor, you run the risk of losing money. That's the reality that every player knows before they even sign a NFL contract. It doesn't matter who started what, who did what, etc. That's part of the responsibility of being a NFL athlete. I'd bet you a crap ton of money that guys like Larry Fitzgerald and others have been called names or people said something to them negatively in public and they don't react. Because they are more mature and not idiots like our TB is.

You want to act like a doofus and a punk off the field, there are consequences for that. It's just that simple.
 

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And? Those are his bosses. Just because they don’t think it’s a big deal doesn’t mean others don’t so again unless you hang around him how do you know?

You asked who is surrounding him influencing his behavior.

When your employer is essentially looking at you and saying "Meh, that incident doesn't matter, this won't impact the money you're getting" - this isn't an influence?

No responsible employer would tell an employee this if it makes their product look bad. None. Even just from a negotiation standpoint, it's dumb for any employer to say this LOL
 

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Exactly. I'm convinced some ppl just don't like Zeke and if he does anything "news worthy" no matter how trivial they'll go off and overblow the situation.

The guy needs an apology from the fence more than Zeke. Also, if he had stood up instead of backing up that fence would've got em...weak Bro.
I'd also like to know what the security guard said to Zeke that set him off. I love my wife and vice versa. But we know how to push each others buttons on occasion.
 

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Are you saying that he broke his contract? Saying "High profile NFL player" is a qualifier. If it's not because of the celebrity, then just say he broke his contract.

What I think is dumb is people making an incident more than it is because he's an athlete. Not whether or not the rules are dumb.
Fine, NFL player. Being high profile just makes his actions more noticeable in public which he should be aware of and take appropriate precautions.

Pretty much no one here thinks his specific actions were a big deal, it’s the fact that he’s already been in trouble and continues to push the envelope. None of us would care if it was a one time incident. None of us would care if we didn’t want the Cowboys to win. We care because he has continued to show poor judgement and puts himself, and therefore his team and teammates, in a bad spot.

Again, it has less to do with he’s an athlete and more to do with he plays for a league/company/organization that has a certain set of rules he continues to defy. It’s not like football players are the only ones, there are plenty of professions that are held to higher standards and the people in those professions either abide by those standards (at least in public if they’re smart) or they won’t have a job. This isn’t specific to the NFL.

For example, with my job, I just had a buddy that got a slap on the wrist for a bogus accusation against him. Fair or not, he was disciplined because fighting it would have brought too much attention that he didn’t want to deal with plus monetary costs. About a year later, he had another slip up. Completely different than the first but what would have been not a huge deal became much bigger because this was now the second time he had a run in with the employer (the second time was completely on him and he acknowledged that). He was punished for the second time as well but was told next time his name comes up for ANYTHING, negative or perceived to be negative, then he’ll be fired. Both of his infractions would have been pretty minor and not even punishable in some companies but not this one. It’s now up to him how he wants to handle himself on the job and outside of the job. BTW, the second infraction didn’t even happen at work, it was on his personal time.

The NFL and athletes in general are hardly the only employees held to a certain standard. The difference is they are much more recognizable so have to be more careful. Like it or not, that’s the price they pay for their profession and with the money they make I don’t think it’s too much to ask of them for such a small portion of their lives.
 

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Exactly. I'm convinced some ppl just don't like Zeke and if he does anything "news worthy" no matter how trivial they'll go off and overblow the situation.

The guy needs an apology from the fence more than Zeke. Also, if he had stood up instead of backing up that fence would've got em...weak Bro.

What I don't like is the star TB of the team, a player the Cowboys are thinking of handing over a big contract to, acting like a total idiot time and time again off the field.

It's perplexing why people are surprised fans have an issue with that.
 

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Yes, the security guard should have just warped through the barrier or Zeke - you're right, it was just a "flop".

The absolute state of this forum LOL
I guess not in your bubble-wrapped World. No run along.
 
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