NFL Penalizing Salary Cap for Cowboys and Commanders

[Goku]

So the Skins and 'Boys fans united? Surely a sign of the apocalypse, maybe the Mayans did know something afterall

Looking forward to an official release from JJ as well

Jerry is still at happy hour. don't count on a statement till tomorrow.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

"This is the official statement of Commanders general manager Bruce Allen on recent media reports of an adjusted salary cap for the 2012 season:

“The Washington Commanders have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.”

Wow, resistance. Nice.

Wonder if Jerry will bend over.

 

[Gfunk]

Jerruh just released a similar statement as Bruce. Dallas and DC fighting the league...together?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Any chance this is worth reading? Summery?

Earlier today the league told media outlets that the Cowboys and Commanders would be losing salary cap space for contracts to players that were frontloaded in an uncapped year.

It came out the amount was to be in the neighborhood of $10m and $36m respectively and that they could defer some if not all until next year.

within the last few minutes the Commanders issued a statement that they have yet to receive any league notification of this.

Those are the facts as i know them.

 

[Teague31]

Here is our response.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=096E5F45-F084-176D-D2660CF8456CF575

 

[speedkilz88]

"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year. We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged."

The Cowboys clearly have no regrets and believe they did nothing wrong.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Statement from the Commanders' website:

http://blog.Commanders...ary-cap-reports


The Washington Commanders have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

So the Skins and 'Boys fans united? Surely a sign of the apocalypse, maybe the Mayans did know something afterall

Looking forward to an official release from JJ as well

The world is coming to an end.

I'm going to start looting right now.

 

[Staxxxx]

No, because their statements I imagine will be issued in a court of law this summer.

This is the official statement of Commanders general manager Bruce Allen on recent media reports of an adjusted salary cap for the 2012 season:
“The Washington Commanders have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.”

http://blog.Commanders.com/2012/03/12/statement-on-adjusted-salary-cap-reports/

 

[JonJon]

"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year. We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged."

The Cowboys clearly have no regrets and believe they did nothing wrong.

Statement from the Commanders' website:

http://blog.Commanders...ary-cap-reports


The Washington Commanders have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.

Good to hear this. Fight it Jones and Snyder. I see no way in hell the penalties can stand in a court of law. The contracts were already signed off on by the NFL. They can't go back and penalize a team for something that they already gave a stamp of approval on.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Here is our response.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=096E5F45-F084-176D-D2660CF8456CF575

"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year. We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged."

The Cowboys clearly have no regrets and believe they did nothing wrong.

This could get real interesting.

If I was them, just ignore it this year and if we have to pay next year then we have more money coming off the books to deal with it.

Get 'er done Jerry.

 

[Woods]

"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year. We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged."

The Cowboys clearly have no regrets and believe they did nothing wrong.

I wonder if this means that JJ is going to disregard the $10mm hit going into FA this year? Will he decide to eventually dump it all into 2013 and then fight it out with the league?

 

[SkinsFan82]

I'm guessing they're going to ignore the cap penalty and operate like it's not there. If/when the league sends them written notification they'll appeal and if the league refuses to budge, to court we go. Because the league has no legal basis from what I've seen for this and they have no ground to stand on.

 

[Woods]

I'm guessing they're going to ignore the cap penalty and operate like it's not there. If/when the league sends them written notification they'll appeal and if the league refuses to budge, to court we go. Because the league has no legal basis from what I've seen for this and they have no ground to stand on.

It's interesting the Skins have said they received no formal notification. It just seems sort of odd. $36mm is a significant sum.

I wonder if the Cowboys did? Or was it a verbal warning from the league of what was going to happen.

 

[Go Big D!]

I'm guessing they're going to ignore the cap penalty and operate like it's not there. If/when the league sends them written notification they'll appeal and if the league refuses to budge, to court we go. Because the league has no legal basis from what I've seen for this and they have no ground to stand on.

Could be. The press release statements are almost identical. Perhaps Jerry & Danny have already discussed this and plan to move forward as you have described.

 

[Wheat]

From Mark Maske at the washington post.

"But a person close to the case said while the NFL felt while there was no basis to reject the contracts then, there was a basis to act now."

Nothing was sent in writing...because neither team broke any rules.

 

[Kevinicus]

Virtually nobody who uses that word these days can offer a definition of it that any political scientist could recognize...

For those who wonder what a correct definition would be, socialism requires state control of industry... the government is not taking over the NFL, therefore there is no socialism at play here...

What the NFL is engaged in is a form of social welfare... it has been that way for a long time now, and it is that way because the owners decided they needed to employ that model to not just prosper, to survive...

It's a metaphor.

 

[MikeT22]

From Mark Maske at the washington post.

"But a person close to the case said while the NFL felt while there was no basis to reject the contracts then, there was a basis to act now."

Nothing was sent in writing...because neither team broke any rules.

That's called "making it up as you go."

 

[Wheat]

That's called "making it up as you go."

pretty much. That's a handful of teams upset they didn't take advantage of a system that everybody agreed on.

What if Dallas and Washington decided they didn't want to share revenue with teams like Buffalo and Jacksonville anymore?

The NFLPA scared about the cap going down a little colluded with those in the league to go after these two teams. Meanwhile, Jerry and Danny will have lists of players and teams with contracts that were front loaded, reworked, or outright terminated in that uncapped year.

Arch-Enemy Team-Up!

 

[silverbear]

Still can, will have plenty of room.

I don't want to underplay how much it hurts, but it's not like they are now in cap hell and have to slash just to get under. With the guys they cut today they're going to be 40+ million under the cap before they decide how to split up this 36 million hit.

If they go 16/20 this year and next they'll probably end up 25+ million under going into FA.

Before you go splitting up this chunk of change, you might want to look into what their cap situation next year is... it might be better long-term if the split was bigger this year, smaller in 2013...

I don't know what their cap situation for next year is, mind you, I'm just pointing out that that number should impact how you split the hit up... in the Boys' case, we know they're losing like 28 million in dead money next offseason, so even if we chose to push all of the hit into next season (not something I advocate), then we'd still be in good cap shape...

But in your case, going with the 45 million under the cap number I've heard after they cut Atogwe, they could eat all of that hit this year and still have some cap room (remembering that they have to earmark some of that cap room)... so if their cap situation next year is significantly tighter, it might make more sense to eat as much as 25 million this year...