NFL proposes 18 game schedule

[DandyDon52]

As for the 18 game season, I kinda like it, requires more strategy,by coaches and FO.
uh oh could hurt dallas the most!

 

[Valkyr]

I'm no longer watching until they let fans call a few plays a game via a phone app.

 

[wecasa]

Leave it alone. the NFL made 15 billion last season, approximately. How much is enough?

 

[HungryLion]

Leave it alone. the NFL made 15 billion last season, approximately. How much is enough?

 

[xwalker]

With a 16 game limit per player.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/07/12/nfl-18-game-schedule-suggestion-player-limit

 

[xwalker]

Who said anything about a salary cap increase? The players aren't getting paid more. They are getting paid just the same for the same amount of time played. That's why there is a proposed game limit.

Players get a percent of NFL Revenue.

If total revenue increases then the amount the players get increases.

 

[xwalker]

Hmmmm.

It's actually an intriguing concept and it really puts an added layer of strategy for coaches/front office.

Such as, would you play Dak in the 16 games you were most comfortable winning and then sit him for what would be your two toughest games, or would you play Rush or White for what would be your two easiest games, hoping they would be able to pull out a win?

Negotiation Tactics
A common tactic in negotiations is to add things in to use as a bargaining chip and to dilute the focus on other issues.

The NFL can basically create a bargaining chip that they don't really possess by demanding 18 games then backing off in exchange for other player concessions.

Maybe the NFL really wants 18 games, but maybe not.
Maybe the NFL really wants to keep testing for Weed, but maybe not.
Maybe the NFL really wants Goodell to continue acting as a dictator, but maybe not.

Examples (drastically over-simplified) of negotiations (NFL speaking to NFLPA):

Want us to drop the 18 game request?

Then we need to keep an extra percent of revenue.​

Want us to drop testing for Weed?

Then we need to keep an extra percent of revenue.​

Want us to reduce Goodell's power over you and use independent arbitration in conduct related suspension appeals?

Then we need to keep an extra percent of revenue.

​

Conspiracy Theorists
Believe that the NFL originally implemented testing for Weed in order to eventually use it as negotiating leverage against the players.

Believe that the NFL and Goodell go over-board enforcing player conduct violations because they want the players to focus on that and not on money at the next CBA negotiations.

 

[JoeKing]

Players get a percent of NFL Revenue.

If total revenue increases then the amount the players get increases.

The cap space would get bigger, yes but the current revenue sharing agreement is locked at 47%,16 games according to the current CBA. So this plan can't be executed until at least 2022. A new revenue-sharing agreement, new CBA... then and only then can this happen.

 

[JoeKing]

Leave it alone. the NFL made 15 billion last season, approximately. How much is enough?

What is this word, "enough"?

 

[Rockport]

I'm no longer watching until they let fans call a few plays a game via a phone app.

Good. Adios.

 

[Rockport]

Players get a percent of NFL Revenue.

If total revenue increases then the amount the players get increases.

It’s a shame you have to post this. Anyone with a lick of common sense would know that the players are also going to benefit.

 

[Rockport]

The cap space would get bigger, yes but the current revenue sharing agreement is locked at 47%,16 games according to the current CBA. So this plan can't be executed until at least 2022. A new revenue-sharing agreement, new CBA... then and only then can this happen.

Case in point. I just don’t get it. The players are going to benefit as well as the owners. Duh. All it takes is agreement and it can happen now.

 

[CouchCoach]

There are two entities that want 18 regular and 2 preseason, the league and the TV nets. If they want the players to want it, they're going to have to sweeten the deal with 12.5% raise to cover those additional 2 games. That means than Russell Wilson would get 39.375M, an additional 2.187M per game, think he wouldn't go for that?

The current cap is 188M, this would bring it to 211.5M. That's 23.5M per team or 752M in additional salary for those two games and there's no way the owners are paying that because they do not pay real game checks on 2 of those preseason games; however, the nets want those 2 preseason games changed to real because the ratings are a joke and they can't get close to full rate for any of them. The only solution is for the TV nets to pay the difference between the salary expense of 2 preseason games and 2 real games.

The NFLPA can posture about safety all they want, that's BS. It's all about what it's always about, money talks. LMAO at the safety crap. If they're worried about that, go play golf or tennis bunch of phony pansy pickers. Say what it's about. They're paid to play 16, that salary is divided equally between 16 game checks. Want 18? That's 2 more game checks. Pretty simple to me.

The real problem of the owners is that they've been bilking the ticket buyers for years with a watered down BS product paying full price to see a bunch of future forklift drivers play football. They don't have a way to recoup the additional salary expense unless the TV nets cover that.

 

[JoeKing]

Case in point. I just don’t get it. The players are going to benefit as well as the owners. Duh. All it takes is agreement and it can happen now.

The CBA isn't going to be renewed until 2022, so no this is not happening at least until then.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I think this is one of the dumbest ideas I seen in a long time. The league is saying each team has to play 18 games but players can't play in more than 16. That's telling teams they can either tank 2 games or are telling the public that they don't care if your team loses a couple of games because it is putting more money in our pockets. What ever happen to the by-law that states all teams have to try their best to win every game but now the league is saying you have to do it without you stars for 2 games. If playing your stars for only 16 games is so important why didn't they start it by saying all players that played in 16 games are ineligible to play in the playoffs.

Here's something else to think about. Most backup players play on special teams to are they going to extent the roster to say 100 so there will be enough bodies to play those other 2 games and no other games? Terrible terrible idea.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I don’t see anyway teams would plan for the 18th game to be a rest game. Nor would fans want that.

Fans and the NFL want there to be some games that have playoffs on the line the last week of the season.

Sure really bad teams and really good teams it wouldn’t matter, but teams that have something to gain, wouldn’t want to be stuck having to sit starters.

I agree that the fans and the NFL wouldn't want it. But I can't imagine why teams wouldn't do it.

You don't know in advance what the standings or your team will look like by the last game of the season. But you do know some things. You know that the last game of the season is by far the most likely game on your schedule to be meaningless (either because you're eliminated or because you've clinched). And you know that if you sit a guy out early and he ends up getting injured at some point, you've wasted a rest day on him. For both reasons, you don't want to rest your best players early: you may be wasting that rest day. Worry about the last game when it comes, not in advance. I guarantee teams would hold off on resting their best guys until the end.

 

[jay94]

This isn't all bad injuries happen, and likely have a bigger impact on those 2 games than many realize.

 

[Rockport]

The CBA isn't going to be renewed until 2022, so no this is not happening at least until then.

It’s already in the CBA. Just never been carried out. Why do you think the owners made this proposal?

 

[xwalker]

The cap space would get bigger, yes but the current revenue sharing agreement is locked at 47%,16 games according to the current CBA. So this plan can't be executed until at least 2022. A new revenue-sharing agreement, new CBA... then and only then can this happen.

The reports about this subject are not referring to 2019.

The CBA expires after the 2020 season. They start negotiations long before it expires.

From the SI article:
During the most recent collective bargaining session, NFL owners revived conversations about expanding the regular season to 18 games, according toThe Wall Street Journal's Andrew Beaton.



https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/07/12/nfl-18-game-schedule-suggestion-player-limit

 

[G2]

So your dynamic offense with a bunch of solid players would miss a total of 22 games, how do you manage that?