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It seems like only yesterday we were complaining about being 24M *over* the cap and laughing at the idea of flexibility. I'll go on record again as saying I would prefer to see only value VFAs added after the first 10 days of free agency have come and gone. Let's just sign those of our own we want to keep, and focus on adding talent in the draft and CFA.
 

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If the Cowboys designate Ware and Austin June 1st cuts, we are then something like $18M under the cap for 2014. We need $5.3M to sign our draft picks for this year. We could spend maybe $5m on FAs available after June 1. And we would be able to roll over $8M from 2014 into 2015. That doesn't sound too bad to me. Not ideal, but not a cap killer by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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If the Cowboys designate Ware and Austin June 1st cuts, we are then something like $18M under the cap for 2014. We need $5.3M to sign our draft picks for this year. We could spend maybe $5m on FAs available after June 1. And we would be able to roll over $8M from 2014 into 2015. That doesn't sound too bad to me. Not ideal, but not a cap killer by any stretch of the imagination.

They only need about 2M to sign draft picks because the draft picks replace players already on the top 51 contracts. Players drafted in the 5th round and later usually don't make enough to even be in the to 51 contracts. I reviewed the cap hits for players drafted in 2013 at the same draft positions that the Cowboys have in 2014 for rounds 1 through 4. When considering those players contracts relative to the Cowboys current top 51 contracts, the additional cap hit would be 1.8M to sign them.
 

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It seems like only yesterday we were complaining about being 24M *over* the cap and laughing at the idea of flexibility. I'll go on record again as saying I would prefer to see only value VFAs added after the first 10 days of free agency have come and gone. Let's just sign those of our own we want to keep, and focus on adding talent in the draft and CFA.

Who didn't know the Cowboys would be cap compliant when they had to?

What point did you think you were making?
 

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Who didn't know the Cowboys would be cap compliant when they had to?

What point did you think you were making?

The exact, obvious, one that I made: that snapshots of teams' cap standing from day to day without context aren't useful measures of anything.
 

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The exact, obvious, one that I made: that snapshots of teams' cap standing from day to day without context aren't useful measures of anything.

Are you saying there were fans who didn't believe they could get under the cap by the start of the league year?

I'm just trying to gauge how wrong you are here.
 

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They only need about 2M to sign draft picks because the draft picks replace players already on the top 51 contracts. Players drafted in the 5th round and later usually don't make enough to even be in the to 51 contracts. I reviewed the cap hits for players drafted in 2013 at the same draft positions that the Cowboys have in 2014 for rounds 1 through 4. When considering those players contracts relative to the Cowboys current top 51 contracts, the additional cap hit would be 1.8M to sign them.

xwalker....it seems you are fighting a losing battle with the cap....no matter how many times you try to inform people, they don't WANT to get it. They want to have something to complain about, even it is completely fabricated.
 

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Are you saying there were fans who didn't believe they could get under the cap by the start of the league year?

I'm just trying to gauge how wrong you are here.

No, that's not what I'm saying.

If you can't understand the obvious original point, or the equally obvious clarification of what I actually *did* say, just how impressed are we supposed to be by your correctness-guaging process, Risen? What's the value of an appraisal of an argument you misunderstood in the first place?
 

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Who cares? The Cowboys are about to create more cap space with Ware, another bunch when they let Austin go...they can do pretty much what they want in FA. I'm hoping they take the conservative approach and bring on value type FA's instead of spending big money chasing guys who will run a higher risk of becoming content after getting paid.
 

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Who cares? The Cowboys are about to create more cap space with Ware, another bunch when they let Austin go...they can do pretty much what they want in FA. I'm hoping they take the conservative approach and bring on value type FA's instead of spending big money chasing guys who will run a higher risk of becoming content after getting paid.
 

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It is irrelevant to compare these numbers. Without analyzing each individual team to see who has or has not been restructured, it's irrelevant. The Cowboys are far from being max restructured.

If the Cowboys were in the same situation as 2013, then this would be an alarming number because they were max restructured then; however, in 2014 they have not touched the contracts of Ware, Witten, Carr or Austin.

Right now with Costa as a cut and Bern redone they stand at 1.6m under:
Re-do Witten-3m
Re-do Carr-5m
Re-do Ware/cut-8m
Cut Durant-800k
Cut 5 scrubs-800k
June 1st Austin-5.5m
June 1st Orton-3.2m, re-do-1.6m
 

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The mouthpieces on tv sure didn't think we could. Guess we showed them. ;)

Everyone has to get under the cap, but the ease that Dallas took was not mentioned by all those mouthpieces. Three planned pen strokes to Romo, Carr and Scandrick doesn't sound like a lot of trouble.

And with the moves I mentioned above, they can create another 28m without any big losses.
 

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xwalker....it seems you are fighting a losing battle with the cap....no matter how many times you try to inform people, they don't WANT to get it. They want to have something to complain about, even it is completely fabricated.
Yes, I dedided that I would just continue to repeat the truth. There are a few people that don't have time to study all of the cap issues and I would like to provide information for them to consider. There might only be 1 in 100 people that have enough common sense to just want the truth without the overwhelming need to run around shouting that the sky is falling.

I feel like the process of defending my opinions just helps me get more accurate. I'm only interested in the truth. I don't have any need to defend the Cowboys management. They've made enough mistakes over the years. I don't see a need to exaggerate their mistakes with false salary cap information.
 

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No, that's not what I'm saying.

If you can't understand the obvious original point, or the equally obvious clarification of what I actually *did* say, just how impressed are we supposed to be by your correctness-guaging process, Risen? What's the value of an appraisal of an argument you misunderstood in the first place?

You said....

It seems like only yesterday we were complaining about being 24M *over* the cap and laughing at the idea of flexibility.

You say that as if anyone thought the Cowboys couldn't get under the cap. They have to get under it. Nobody questioned it.

But they are still in cap hell.
 

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You said....

It seems like only yesterday we were complaining about being 24M *over* the cap and laughing at the idea of flexibility.

You say that as if anyone thought the Cowboys couldn't get under the cap. They have to get under it. Nobody questioned it.

But they are still in cap hell.

Cap hell is having to cut productive players and having no room to resign any of your young guys or FAs.

Having 28m in cap space available and only losing unproductive players is not cap hell, no matter how many times you repeat it.
 

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Cap hell is having to cut productive players and having no room to resign any of your young guys or FAs.

Having 28m in cap space available and only losing unproductive players is not cap hell, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Cap hell is being restricted from what you need to do to improve the team and make it a contender. Something the Cowboys have experienced more than a few times over the years. They've sat out a ton of FA periods because of cap issues.

This team needs almost an entirely new defensive roster with a franchise QB on the back 9 of his career. Time isn't on his side. An aggressive FA period is called for but the Cowboys, with their genius cap guru Stephen Jones, are in no position to go that route.

But they can do whatever they want.

They must want to lose.
 
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