NFL's Mike Pereria... Holmes did use the ball as a prop and it was a penalty!!

[Cowboys2008]

Personally, I've got the impression the league is in favor of an AFC domination these days. Just look at last year with the stuff the Pats got away with. The Giants won despite. After Spygate, the Pats should have been crippled so bad not to even make the playoffs, let alone an almost undefeated season. The league instead just brushed that all under the rug and left their team intact.

Seriously see what the result would have been had that been Cowboy Spygate instead of Patriot Spygate!

 

[Maikeru-sama]

That's fine, I agree with you to some extent.....but the fact is it was a penalty...do you think T.O, Chad Johnson or B.Marshall wouldn't have been called for that?

In the Super Bowl, I wouldn't be suprised if they weren't flagged.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Personally, I've got the impression the league is in favor of an AFC domination these days. Just look at last year with the stuff the Pats got away with. The Giants won despite. After Spygate, the Pats should have been crippled so bad not to even make the playoffs, let alone an almost undefeated season. The league instead just brushed that all under the rug and left their team intact.

Seriously see what the result would have been had that been Cowboy Spygate instead of Patriot Spygate!

:bang2:

A good majority of their "high revenue, large fanbase" Teams such as Dallas, New York, Green Bay and Chicago are in the NFC, so why would they do that?

The bitterness needs to stop.

The Steelers are hoisting the Lombardi Trophy again for the 2nd time in 4 years. Direct the anger and bitterness towards the four-headed monster at Valley Ranch, which consists of Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips and Terrell Owens as opposed The Rooneys, the Refs, the Steelers and unfounded conspiracy theories.

 

[AbeBeta]

Whah whah whah.

Whah whah whah is exactly what is comes down to.

 

[AbeBeta]

Whah whah whah.

Whah whah whah is exactly what is comes down to. But what do you expect from a bunch of bandwagon fans who spent their money on #11 Cardinal jerseys already?

 

[peplaw06]

Sure. But look at other sports that have great post seasons. They use various rules to establish behavior over the course of the season but let a ton of stuff go when it really matters. Take hockey for example - the refs leave their whistles in their pockets over ticky tacky crap. B-ball as well. Them rules are for cleaning stuff up during the season, not for 1 minute left in the SB.

That's probably the biggest gripe about those post-seasons.

If you think it's important enough to be a penalty in the regular season, it should be important enough with :35 left in the Super Bowl. Refusing to call that, especially when it's an objective standard, reeks of conspiracy. And this is what results.

 

[peplaw06]

funny 43 superbowls

and only 2 are questioned...

XL and XLIII

steelers played in both....

Rooney is on the NFL compition comettee

Is there an echo in here??

You must be a youngin... because the Steelers are routinely involved in questionably called Super Bowls.

 

[AbeBeta]

That's probably the biggest gripe about those post-seasons.

If you think it's important enough to be a penalty in the regular season, it should be important enough with :35 left in the Super Bowl. Refusing to call that, especially when it's an objective standard, reeks of conspiracy. And this is what results.

Again, does it impact the on the field action? If not, let it go. I can see calling celebration stuff during the regular season because of the potential for celebrations of this nature to cause retaliation, but in the playoffs you have to back off and let teams slug it out.

Many rules exist to create a better regular season product but once the playoffs roll around you have to back off.

The idea of conspiracy favoring the Steelers is laughable. If anything the league would benefit more from AZ winning the Superbowl as this would give a huge boost to their popularity and give hope to the fans of crap teams all over the league - the Steelers are just as popular without #6 and their success as a franchise is just more of the same.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Can I ask a question?
I didnt want to start a new thread.


Which would you prefer?

1. A game officiated correctly with the use of more technology

or

2. Leave the human element, its part of the game

??

 

[theebs]

Can I ask a question?
I didnt want to start a new thread.


Which would you prefer?

1. A game officiated correctly with the use of more technology

or

2. Leave the human element, its part of the game

??

for me personally, it would be the human element. But in todays HD blogger world it has to be number 1 because anytime there is a mistake it will be so scrutinized the league would suffer.

FOr instance. I was watching the 1990 nfc championship game while I was working on something yesterday. IMO it is one of the greatest games ever played. It came down to a late field goal to be decided, but had the game been played in 2008 it wouldnt have been.

On the opening drive of the game, montana hit john taylor on a slant that was good for 12 or 13 yards, cant remember the exact amount. THe niners only gained about 5 more yards on the drive and then kicked a field goal.

now here is the catch. The throw from montana was high and behind taylor. He jumped and grabbed the ball and as he turned to try and land he got hit and the ball came loose, it wasnt even close to a catch, yet jerry marchright the official called it a catch. First down, drive on. Big difference in the game. THe giants needed matt bahrs field goal to win the game on their last drive. Had he missed the niners win, but they should never have had the first 3 points.

Here are two pictures from the game. Keep in mind the call was ruled a catch because the runner was ruled down by contact!! Its laughable by todays standards.

http://i8.***BLOCKED***/albums/a46/Theebs/taylor-not-down.jpg

http://i8.***BLOCKED***/albums/a46/Theebs/taylor-not-down-2.jpg

 

[tyke1doe]

I think they really just didn't catch it. It wasn't immediately afterwards and they turned their attention away.

That's the reason why it wasn't called. It's not like Holmes went into the celebration after he caught the ball. He sat there for a second as his teammates rushed to embrace him. Then after the official replay call, he broke into his celebration.

Was it a violation of the rules? Yes.

But I doubt that call is going to be made given the magnitude of the game and given the length between the TD and the celebration.

At any rate, of such, controversy is born.

 

[tyke1doe]

Can I ask a question?
I didnt want to start a new thread.


Which would you prefer?

1. A game officiated correctly with the use of more technology

or

2. Leave the human element, its part of the game

??

If you're not going to get it right even with technology, then leave the human element in the game.

I think fans can live with bad calls. But bad calls after a replay clearly contradicts the call yet the call is upheld is more egregious.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Again, does it impact the on the field action? If not, let it go. I can see calling celebration stuff during the regular season because of the potential for celebrations of this nature to cause retaliation, but in the playoffs you have to back off and let teams slug it out.

Many rules exist to create a better regular season product but once the playoffs roll around you have to back off.

Just the opposite, ... if it is a rule in EVERY game that decides who plays in the biggest game of the year, then it HAS to be the same rules that decide who the winner of the biggest game of the year is.

The idea of conspiracy favoring the Steelers is laughable. If anything the league would benefit more from AZ winning the Superbowl as this would give a huge boost to their popularity and give hope to the fans of crap teams all over the league - the Steelers are just as popular without #6 and their success as a franchise is just more of the same.

Please, .. do you think there would be more jerseys, hats, jackets, mugs, cupholders, penants, etc. sold throughout the country if the stealers win the SB or the Cards?

Think about it.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Can I ask a question?
I didnt want to start a new thread.


Which would you prefer?

1. A game officiated correctly with the use of more technology

or

2. Leave the human element, its part of the game

??

I think I'd probably keep it as is. BUT missed calls like this one is totally inescusable. These officials are supposed to be the best in the NFL.

 

[Verdict]

If I remember correctly, I thought he also went to the ground at some point in his celebration, which should also have drawn a penalty.

 

[tyke1doe]

If I remember correctly, I thought he also went to the ground at some point in his celebration, which should also have drawn a penalty.

There's a rule against catching a TD standing up?

 

[AbeBeta]

Just the opposite, ... if it is a rule in EVERY game that decides who plays in the biggest game of the year, then it HAS to be the same rules that decide who the winner of the biggest game of the year is.

Tell that to every major sport in the world. You'll see the same deal

Please, .. do you think there would be more jerseys, hats, jackets, mugs, cupholders, penants, etc. sold throughout the country if the stealers win the SB or the Cards?

Think about it.

The Steelers fan base is strong and isn't going to grow. The Cards have sucked *** for so long that they are going to get a huge bump. It is all about opening up a stagnant market vs. tapping a market that already approaches its ceiling.

 

[joseephuss]

The NFL has progressed quite a bit over the years.

Players are bigger, stronger and faster.

Coaches and schemes are more innovative and wide open on both sides of the ball.

Television coverage is better at least in terms in number of cameras, number and types of angles provided and the quality of the pictures.

Has the officiating also progressed? Maybe a little, but not at the rate as the rest of the league. There are limitations on what an official can see on the field. There is not much they can do to improve that. Even adding an extra official may not help. That is why replay should be used as a tool to help the refs. The game is just faster now. There is always going to be some portion of human element in the officiating. I would say the impact of the human element is larger now than it was 20 years ago just because of the way the game has evolved. If the refs can't evolve along on their own then the use of technology needs to be part of their evolution.

I also think most refs look at replay as a challenge to their authority more so than an aide.

In my opinion the league puts too many limitations on the use of replay. I don't think they need to replay every single play, but they need to be a little more flexible. Why is offsides not reviewable? That is just one example. I am sure there are several more situations that could benefit from the use of replay.

The biggest and most obvious thing that can be done to help improve officiating is make it a full time position. That should have happened a long time ago.

 

[Coy]

The Steelers won, get over it and give them props, unlike the Cowboys they DO have a QB who is clutch at the moment when it`s needed the most.
Penalties and missed calls happen in all the games, that`s just part of it, how about that holding call for a safety which would have essentially finished up the Cards with the perfect pass from Ben to Santonio, if they wanted the Steelers to win they would have never called that.
I hate the Steelers believe me but I have to handed to them, great plays in big moments in key games, they deserve it.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

The Steelers won, get over it and give them props, unlike the Cowboys they DO have a QB who is clutch at the moment when it`s needed the most.

No kidding! There's more whinning that goes on on this site, than at a 2nd grade sunday school class, when they announce there's no more red Kool-Aid!!