NIKE partners with Mass Murderer

[Concord]

But he was arrested and initially charged with murder. And if not for squealing like a pig on the stand, he'd be in jail now. Because while I like Ray Lewis, the player, I don't believe he was an innocent bystander in that brouhaha. And it boggles my mind how he's uplifted as this great person after all that. Selective memory at it's best.

But the charges were dismissed.

Vick plead guilty and was jailed.

I have no love for Lewis and I agree he probably wasn't innocent.

But Apples to Oranges here to me.

Funxva's overall point is that Vick paid his debt to society...and that should be it as it pertains to his ability to revive his NFL career.

There are plenty of felons that pay their debt to society and are released...but I doubt that many of them are given the ability to go back to their jobs.

I really have no problem with him playing and resuming his career...and he is in fact doing just that.

I was getting the facts straight.

Not interested in really getting too involved in this whole debate, because I hold no particular feelings toward Vick other than I think he's an idiot. I'd probably have stronger feelings if he had murdered a human. JMO.

I love animals so hence my strong feelings.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Mass Murderer? Give me a break with this stuff. I love dogs but I am not going to put what he did above serial killers and people like that.

Exactly how I feel about it. The guy, while pathetic, isn't even in the same league as serial killers and people of that type.

 

[Doomsday101]

The NFL may have forgiven him and allowed him back but for many people they view Vick for scum and that is not going to change anytime soon. Is what he did worse than what some others have done? No but then many view several players as scum and that is part of the reason many do like the tougher stance by the NFL towards problem players.

 

[tyke1doe]

Vick isn't a mass murderer.

He fought dogs. Which, is illegal... but it isn't murder. They are dogs. When you hit a dog with a car, you don't get charged with vehicular homicide... there is a reason for it.

Because its an animal; not a human.

Thank you.

One point, though. Vehicular homicide is not the same as murder.

 

[tyke1doe]

But he was arrested and initially charged with murder. And if not for squealing like a pig on the stand, he'd be in jail now. Because while I like Ray Lewis, the player, I don't believe he was an innocent bystander in that brouhaha. And it boggles my mind how he's uplifted as this great person after all that. Selective memory at it's best.

I doubt it very seriously. The DA's case was shakier than a frostbite victim in an earthquake.

I doubt any jury would have convicted Lewis of murder because there was no evidence that linked him with murder. The appropriate charge should have been hindering prosecution. Lewis took the plea deal because he didn't want to take a chance on a murder conviction. But I doubt very, very seriously he would have been convicted of murder even if he had rolled the dice.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

But he was arrested and initially charged with murder. And if not for squealing like a pig on the stand, he'd be in jail now. Because while I like Ray Lewis, the player, I don't believe he was an innocent bystander in that brouhaha. And it boggles my mind how he's uplifted as this great person after all that. Selective memory at it's best.

I live in Atlanta and had just moved down here right before the Lewis incident (in fact, I walked by the area to my car no more than 10 minutes before it happened).

The DA's felt forced to prosecute, in my mind...and I really believe it's blatantly obvious here living in Atlanta...due to Lewis being a famous black celebrity. Lots of voters in that area made it quite clear during the incident that they wanted Lewis to hang and when you heard them talk the main 'point' they would make behind the incident was Lewis' race (in other words they were making racist remarks).

The DA's case against Lewis consisted of him fleeing the scene (who wouldn't?), an ex-con saying that he saw Lewis stab somebody then later recanting and basically admitting he lied so he could get his 15 minutes of fame, and the limo driver who said he thought he heard Lewis say 'I'm not going down for this' (which leads up to a lot of interpretation).

The most telling fact that the DA had nothing on Lewis was that they wound up plea bargaining with a guy they had accused of DOUBLE homicide. No DA in this country plea bargains with somebody accused of homicide, particularly a double homicide unless they turn state's evidence and can bring down some criminal kingpin. It wasn't the case, just lousy work by the DA that was pressured into doing it by some of their constituents who happened to be white racists who had money and power. It wasn't as bad as Mike Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse player's case, but it was still a shameful job by the prosecution, that probably caused the real murderer(s) to get away scott free.




YAKUZA

 

[Cover 2]

He also knowingly gave a girl herpes...

 

[Beast_from_East]

Everybody is entitled to their opinions. Some people think Vick should be given a second chance and that he payed his debt to society. Other people think Vick is pure garbage and should not be allowed to play in the NFL.

As I know the facts, Vick personally killed the dogs that lost in the dogfights he was involved in. He killed them by slamming their heads against the ground or into walls until their skulls cracked open, by holding their heads under water until they drowned, by electrocution methods, ect.....

I find it very hard to believe that somebody that could do these acts of torture could be rehabilitated in prision. The fact that the NFL is letting Vick play again is just sickening, but thats just me.

 

[TOOMBS]

I will never buy anything Nike ever again.
People need to realize that a company is using profits you are giving to them and putting that money in the pockets of guys like Mike Vick.

Why would nike spend money on a deal with a guy like Vick? Even if he never killed any dogs why sign a player that has shown the ability to do absolutely nothing. Plus he plays for a team where he will never be more than a 3rd qb.

It makes no sense. But again i have given Nike my last dollar.

LOL, so if Nike had an endorsement deal with him, you would boycott them because they are "using profits you are giving to them and putting that money in the pockets of guys like Mike Vick." Umm, doesn't that mean you should be boycotting the NFL as well for doing the exact same thing...and doing it FIRST?

Oh, but I bet you aren't will to go just THAT far, eh? I mean, you love dogs and all enough to give up Nike's, but not quite enough to abandon the NFL's product. Gotcha.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I stopped buying Nike when I found out that those $80 shoes at Foot Locker were being made by child labor in sweatshops in 3rd world countries.

But thats just me.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I stopped buying Nike when I found out that those $80 shoes at Foot Locker were being made by child labor in sweatshops in 3rd world countries.

But thats just me.

You guys think Nike is the only company who does that? I wouldn't be shocked, in the least, if just about every major company does this kind of stuff to some degree. How do you think the rich continue to get even more rich? They're going to cut costs anywhere they possibly can.

There is honestly no telling what all we all wear on a daily basis that was made by some child in a sweatshop somewhere.

 

[Rogah]

You guys think Nike is the only company who does that? I wouldn't be shocked, in the least, if just about every major company does this kind of stuff to some degree. How do you think the rich continue to get even more rich? They're going to cut costs anywhere they possibly can.

New Balance is based in and manufactures their sneakers in the United States. So if anyone wants to buy footwear that doesn't involve 3rd World sweatshops, go with NB.

 

[Rogah]

I doubt it very seriously. The DA's case was shakier than a frostbite victim in an earthquake.

I doubt any jury would have convicted Lewis of murder because there was no evidence that linked him with murder. The appropriate charge should have been hindering prosecution. Lewis took the plea deal because he didn't want to take a chance on a murder conviction. But I doubt very, very seriously he would have been convicted of murder even if he had rolled the dice.

I have to agree with tyke1doe here. The 2 guys who did eventually go on trial, and whom Ray lewis testified against, were aquitted. So I have to think that if Lewis made no deal and the 3 of them all went on trial, it still would have resulted in an aquittal.

Of course, having said that, it should be noted the Lewis paid a civil settlement, but I can't say I recall the details entirely.

 

[WoodysGirl]

New Balance is based in and manufactures their sneakers in the United States. So if anyone wants to buy footwear that doesn't involve 3rd World sweatshops, go with NB.

Not only that, but they're good shoes and are reasonably priced.

I love New Balance...and K-Swiss.

 

[Hoofbite]

New Balance is based in and manufactures their sneakers in the United States. So if anyone wants to buy footwear that doesn't involve 3rd World sweatshops, go with NB.

I love NB but its really hard to come by the 574s any more.