No chance for 6 wr's???

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joseephuss;2892963 said:
They won't be cutting McGee, which is what they would have to do to get him on the practice squad. He will be on the final 53 man roster and then the inactive QB on the game day roster.


Yep. not gonna happen. They drafted the kid to groom. If he were an undrafted FA they'd probably try and get him through to the PS but not having used a fairly high pick on the kid. As you say, he'll be on the 53.
 

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Alexander;2893002 said:
There is no reason to keep 6 WRs.

First, we will be running a two TE offense often with Witten or even Bennett out wide.

Second, we are having a tough time just identifying a decent 5th receiver to bother keeping who isn't good enough for that.

Besides, WRs can be stashed on the practice squad with greater ease than most positions.


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Alexander;2893002 said:
There is no reason to keep 6 WRs.

First, we will be running a two TE offense often with Witten or even Bennett out wide.

Second, we are having a tough time just identifying a decent 5th receiver to bother keeping who isn't good enough for that.

Besides, WRs can be stashed on the practice squad with greater ease than most positions.

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner.

We're talking about running a two TE set up to 60% of the time this season. Also, with Bennett and Witten being the receivers that they are, I rarely see us using a 4 WR set, even in long yardage situations.

Therefore, we're not going to have more than 4 WRs active on game days, so it sort of seems like a waste of a roster spot to have a 6th WR on the 53.

Also, as others have stated, no way we cut McGee and try to sign him to the PC, he'll never clear waivers.
 

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ArmyCowboy;2893041 said:
Also, as others have stated, no way we cut McGee and try to sign him to the PC, he'll never clear waivers.

It would be incredibly stupid to cut McGee. Developmental QBs with his kind of tools would be snapped up in a heartbeat. If we didn't learn from the Matt Moore snafu, we never will. It would be unbelieveably stupid to cut a mid-round draft choice to keep a dime-a-dozen WR who is easily replaceable and wouldn't even play anyways.
 

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I don't see any way that we would keep 6. We don't need 6. We don't have 6 worthy candidates. IMO we have 5. You can debate who the 5th is, I'll refrain. I think 2 of our current crop could end up on the PS.

3 QBs and 2 Ks means you go lean somewhere else. WR is the most likely place because we have 2 very good receiving TEs.

It's not like we have a Danny Amendola anyway.
 

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Hostile;2893054 said:
I don't see any way that we would keep 6. We don't need 6. We don't have 6 worthy candidates. IMO we have 5. You can debate who the 5th is, I'll refrain. I think 2 of our current crop could end up on the PS.

3 QBs and 2 Ks means you go lean somewhere else. WR is the most likely place because we have 2 very good receiving TEs.

It's not like we have a Danny Amendola anyway.

We will once the Eagles cut him. :lmao2:
 

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Alexander;2893002 said:
There is no reason to keep 6 WRs.

First, we will be running a two TE offense often with Witten or even Bennett out wide.

Second, we are having a tough time just identifying a decent 5th receiver to bother keeping who isn't good enough for that.

Besides, WRs can be stashed on the practice squad with greater ease than most positions.
I agree, I think 4 WRs at most will be OK. This is a team that will lean on the run game.

Couple those three good RBs with two good TEs, all of which can help the passing game greatly and I think it lessens the need to carry that many WRs
 

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EPL0c0;2893062 said:
I agree, I think 4 WRs at most will be OK. This is a team that will lean on the run game.

I think four is too drastic. That means you only dress four. You lose one, you are scrambling to field spread sets, which I still think we will see quite often. We might only take four receivers to games, but I think we keep five on the roster.

I also am not sold we will turn into a team that runs the ball to the degree some think we will.

We'll run more, but provided only that it is successful and allows for the passing game to be set up.

This is still an offense that will rely on the passing game to move the chains, specifically Romo. We don't have that mindset like a Tennessee or Pittsburgh where we will or even can jam it down someone's throat. Our OL doesn't seem to be that way and I don't see that mentality from Garrett, not in the least. Nor does it need to be that way. Better balance is what is most needed.
 

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ZeroClub;2893066 said:
Buehler can be the 6th WR. No need for another one.

I get it now!! Buehler is the New TO!! Every thread will be hijacked by Buehler hate..
 

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what's the word on Manuel Johnson? i know he's not gonna make the roster, but is he a good practice squad guy?
 

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Bubble guys right now IMO are Dixon, Mickens, Stanback, Ogletree and Hodge. Not all will make it.
 

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starfrombirth;2892944 said:
Every blog I read about training camp says that Ogletree is doing outstanding but every other blog I read says that we are only keeping 5 wr's. Is that true? Why can't we keep 6? We've done it before with Bill and if Ogletree is one of the best 53 then we should keep him.Who would we have to let go, Steve Octavian or someone like him? I did an admittedly quick count for realistic "locks" to make the team and came up with this:
OFFENSE
QB - 3
RB - 3
TE - 3
FB - 1
OL - 7
WR - 6

Thats 23 offensive players by my count

DEFENSE
DL - 6
LB - 8
CB - 5
Safety - 4

Thats another 23 defensive players leaving us 2 deep at every position and 7 extra spots to shore up positions for depth such as Oline, Dline, LB, and CB. So I ask again: Isn't it possible for us to keep a 6th wide receiver if he's good enough to contribute and is one of the best 53?

I think the WR and DB spots are linked. If we keep one less DB than "planned," then we can keep one more WR.

The numbers would work out like this:

QB 3 (Romo, Kitna, McGee)
FB 1 (Anderson)
RB 3 (Barber, Jones, Choice)
TE 3 (Witten, Bennett, Phillips)
WR 6 (Williams, Crayton, Austin, Hurd, Stanback, Ogletree)
OL 9 (Adams, Kosier, Gurode, Davis, Colombo, Free, Holland, Proctor/Gibbons, McQuistan)

DL 6 (Olshansky, Ratliff, Spears, Bowen, Siavii, Hatcher)
LB 9 (Ware, Brooking, James, Spencer, B. Williams, J. Williams, Carpenter, Hodge, Butler)
CB 5 (Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Ball, Mickens)
S 4 (Sensabaugh, K. Hamlin, M. Hamlin, Smith)

LS 1 (Ladouceur)
K 2 (Folk, Buehler)
P 1 (McBriar)

A lot depends on how the secondary shakes out (do we also keep Watkins for special teams? does Brown step up and secure a spot? does Mickens go on the PS?). We could also have issues to address at LB if neither B. Williams or Butler proves ready to step in for a few plays and at DE if Dixon comes back from injury and plays well enough to deserve a spot. Could even keep an extra OL if Gibbons plays well enough to deserve a spot, but doesn't show enough at center to take Proctor's spot.
 

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RS12;2893611 said:
Bubble guys right now IMO are Dixon, Mickens, Stanback, Ogletree and Hodge. Not all will make it.

Add Brown, Stewart, Octavian, Crosslin, and Rodgers to that list..
 

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RS12;2893611 said:
Bubble guys right now IMO are Dixon, Mickens, Stanback, Ogletree and Hodge. Not all will make it.


I don't think Hodge is bubble. In the practices he's participated in, he has played well and appears to be ahead of Jason Williams right now in understanding the ILB position.
 

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Vinnie2u;2893084 said:
I get it now!! Buehler is the New TO!! Every thread will be hijacked by Buehler hate..

You really can think of Buehler taking the roster spot of the 6th WR. Obviously, without Buehler, there's a much better chance that a 6th WR makes the roster.

And if a 6th WR were ever to contribute on game day, it'd most likely be on special teams -- which is where Buehler is projected to contribute.
 

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I don't think we keep 9 CB/S. If we keep D. Smith and Ball, they're both swing players. Smith would be the full-time punt returner in that scenario.

Newman
Scandrick
Jenkins
Ball
Mickens
K. Hamlin
Brown
Smith
Sensabaugh
Watkins
M. Hamlim

That's 11 names. You can easily cut three. Brown is certainly gone. So come up with two out of Mickens, Smith, Watkins, and M. Hamlin.
 

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theogt;2893745 said:
That's 11 names. You can easily cut three. Brown is certainly gone. So come up with two out of Mickens, Smith, Watkins, and M. Hamlin.

c'ya.
 

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They aint cutting Hamlin, Wade said at a press confrence a couple weeks ago, this is the only player he thinks for sure will be a future starter from this draft.
 

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I think DSmith is gone. He really messed up when he showed that a kicker had more speed than him. All jokes about Buehlers athleticism aside, he should have never been able to beat out smith. Mikens is a tough call. He catches everything but they are starting to call him "toast" at practice. Maybe he can stay on as a consultant to teach the other db's how to catch the ball.

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