I'm not sure. I see conflicting reports saying both.
What were the rules when it happened? That's all that should matter.
You can't change the speed limit tomorrow and write me a ticket for how fast I drove a week ago.
2 games was the max for domestic violence. Roethlisberger was suspended under the Personal Conduct Policy which is completely different.
Looks like yet another day with no decision.
Kudos on the post that we should lock him up with a nice deal, like 3 or 4 years! I totally agree because I honestly love what I'm hearing coming out of Valley Ranch! Not just the praise, that's great & all but I Love, Marranelli's comments, the passion, aggressive, honing his craft & that his work ethic is HUGE! This is awesome because that's hugely contagious
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Hardy's 10 Game Tilt for "Conduct Detrimental To The NFL" OR "The Personal Conduct Policy"? I'm of the camp that, first, the NFL has "No Business" trying to function as a "Sudeo-Civil-Monkey-CSI-Investigative-Judge-Jury-Etc", (SECONDARY) option to completely find themselves out of their depth which is why the NFL & Goody-2-Face-Brown-Noser are getting in deeper & deeper hot water! Second, I think since his infraction, (Which He Was EXONERATED For), occurred under the "Old" policy, by definition that means at most, what a 2 or 4 game suspension! But even that leads to my Third point, = If he was given the option to pay a fine of the equivalent of a 2 or 4 game suspension, then he pays back what he made for the games he missed on the exempt list, he's done the time let the man pay back the fine! This leads to the final two points. Fourth, let the man play, opening day after paying back/for whatever the suspension is reduced down to, be it 2, 3 or 4 games. Finally, Fifth, & however my entire post still hinges on a better understanding of "What The Meaning" is behind what he was suspended over, because I'm claiming ignorance on this point, the reason, because I'm not entirely sure that "Buck-Goody-Rodgers" was or wasn't trying to pull a legal stunt by saying Hardy's 10 Game Suspension is either under "The Personal Conduct Policy" OR "Conduct Detrimental To The NFL" I think it was possibly by design..... If someone could set me straight on what the suspension was under & if any of you, (Very Informative Awesome Cowboy Fans), could tell me if you think the change in the "What" he was suspended for is different & therefore Rodger trying to be cute, to get one over on Hardy & Our Cowboys?
Oh & BTW, I also think this is nothing more than a delay tatic & Kudos on the post that we should lock him up with a nice deal, like 3 or 4 years! I totally agree because I honestly love what I'm hearing coming out of Valley Ranch! Not just the praise, that's great & all but I Love, Marranelli's comments, the passion, aggressive, honing his craft & that his work ethic is HUGE! This is awesome because that's hugely contagious, I must say, Lawrence in his 2nd year, Gregory's Rookie Year, Mincy & Hayden both in year 8, both Crawford's going into year 4 AND ALL to have Hardy's influence on this D-Line, well, it will be exciting to see! That's why I agree we should "Lock Him Up" before he hits the open market! Thanks again for anyone who responds to help me understand the top part.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/14/no-hardy-ruling-yet-17-days-later/
Certain types of NFL disciplinary appeals apply a firm deadline for reaching a decision. The Personal Conduct Policy does not.
Conducted under Rule 46 of the labor deal, the hearing officer is required to issue a written decision “[a]s soon as practicable” after the completion of the hearing.
In the case of Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy, the hearing on his 10-game suspension ended 17 days ago. In theory, a ruling could come at any time.
From Hardy’s perspective, the sooner arbitrator Harold Henderson issues a ruling, the better. If Hardy chooses to go to court to challenge the outcome, the more time Hardy has before the start of the regular season, the better chance he’ll have to get a ruling from federal court.
The NFL is trying to play a dangerous game with Hardy's suspension. They are claiming they are using the old standards by giving him 4- 2 game suspensions for 4 separate incidents of laying his hands on Ms Holder during the ONE altercation. Then they mix up the 2 policies and give him 2 more games for guns being present.
The whole thing is a farce and a slap in the face to Judge Doty and Judge Jones who heard the Peterson and Rice cases and ruled against the NFL.
The NFL is trying to play a dangerous game with Hardy's suspension. They are claiming they are using the old standards by giving him 4- 2 game suspensions for 4 separate incidents of laying his hands on Ms Holder during the ONE altercation. Then they mix up the 2 policies and give him 2 more games for guns being present.
The whole thing is a farce and a slap in the face to Judge Doty and Judge Jones who heard the Peterson and Rice cases and ruled against the NFL.
Thank you. I'd say that "Clears it up for me", but it doesn't at ALL! You are absolutely correct this is a FARCE! I guess I'm glad the "Peterson" precedence was set but now I'm getting the feeling this is indeed deliberate & in the end I'm hoping, (Not Because I'm A Sadist), that Goody-2-Shoes, embarrasses himself even more than he has! I mean this is a joke right? The dude, sorry "Hardy" was NOT FOUND GUILTY! What The H$// is going on here? I'm not a huge "Conspiracy Theorist" but maybe it's true Roger has unceremonious ties to the "Gnats & NewEhPatriotActs!" Oh what a world!
Thanks again, BTW.
The NFL is jobbing the Cowboys big time. It's not even funny. I hope Stephen & Jerry are making waves behind the scenes.
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Hardy's 10 Game Tilt for "Conduct Detrimental To The NFL" OR "The Personal Conduct Policy"? I'm of the camp that, first, the NFL has "No Business" trying to function as a "Sudeo-Civil-Monkey-CSI-Investigative-Judge-Jury-Etc", (SECONDARY) option to completely find themselves out of their depth which is why the NFL & Goody-2-Face-Brown-Noser are getting in deeper & deeper hot water! Second, I think since his infraction, (Which He Was EXONERATED For), occurred under the "Old" policy, by definition that means at most, what a 2 or 4 game suspension! But even that leads to my Third point, = If he was given the option to pay a fine of the equivalent of a 2 or 4 game suspension, then he pays back what he made for the games he missed on the exempt list, he's done the time let the man pay back the fine! This leads to the final two points. Fourth, let the man play, opening day after paying back/for whatever the suspension is reduced down to, be it 2, 3 or 4 games. Finally, Fifth, & however my entire post still hinges on a better understanding of "What The Meaning" is behind what he was suspended over, because I'm claiming ignorance on this point, the reason, because I'm not entirely sure that "Buck-Goody-Rodgers" was or wasn't trying to pull a legal stunt by saying Hardy's 10 Game Suspension is either under "The Personal Conduct Policy" OR "Conduct Detrimental To The NFL" I think it was possibly by design..... If someone could set me straight on what the suspension was under & if any of you, (Very Informative Awesome Cowboy Fans), could tell me if you think the change in the "What" he was suspended for is different & therefore Rodger trying to be cute, to get one over on Hardy & Our Cowboys?
Oh & BTW, I also think this is nothing more than a delay tatic & Kudos on the post that we should lock him up with a nice deal, like 3 or 4 years! I totally agree because I honestly love what I'm hearing coming out of Valley Ranch! Not just the praise, that's great & all but I Love, Marranelli's comments, the passion, aggressive, honing his craft & that his work ethic is HUGE! This is awesome because that's hugely contagious, I must say, Lawrence in his 2nd year, Gregory's Rookie Year, Mincy & Hayden both in year 8, both Crawford's going into year 4 AND ALL to have Hardy's influence on this D-Line, well, it will be exciting to see! That's why I agree we should "Lock Him Up" before he hits the open market! Thanks again for anyone who responds to help me understand the top part.
Doty wrote in the Peterson ruling how domestic violence was conduct detrimental to the league. The suspension arises out of the domestic violence incident no matter how the NFL labels it. The investigation makes that obvious. The court will ask whether in fact it was because of the domestic violence case and conclude the obvious. I imagine they will also show about 30 years of how the NFL handled cases under the Tagliabue system that was still in force at the time of the incident. That is incident after incident of a first time offense getting 2 games for misdemeanor domestic violence with a conviction. The NFL also punished him for his guns when he never saw a gun charge.
I have no doubt that the NFL will retry the same argument. It is very similar to them saying that scheduled free agency was not collusion but instead competitive balance citing their charter. I don't think they expect it to work this time either. I think they are interested in putting up a facade for the public eye and tying it up in court as long as they possibly can.