No hate on Dak, but what does he do better than Rush?

[NotForLong]

I agree. I like a QB who stands in the pocket and shreds. I was just saying this guy can run if he needs to.

Yeah I saw that . . . like a Josh Allen or Romo . . . just enough to evade if need be . . . But with this O Line coming together and Gallup returning . . . there may be no need to run

Just sit back and pick the Defense apart

 

[NotForLong]

Dak nails Lamb for the TD that Rush missed in Q1.

 

[BigD_95]

There's no need for a 10 page thread with the same Dak haters and Dak homers arguing the same points. If Dak comes back and doesn't win games then the haters are right. If Dak comes back and elevates the offense even more then he's better. I think the first game was on Kellen/lack of pre-season for the starters more than Dak. But, if Dak comes back and plays like he did week 1 then I hope they switch back to Rush.

Was it on Moore? I always blamed Moore but it seems like its been Dak. I mean Rush is playing with less talent than Dak has had and is just better at running the offense. I do think Dak has better arm strength and we will see how this plays out but Dak holds the ball too long and isnt good at reading the defense

 

[Playmaker247]

We have the worst fan base in all of pro sports

 

[NotForLong]

Everything. Score more points for one. With dak we have the #1 scoring offense in the nfl. With rush we have one of the worst.

 

[TWOK11]

Little of both. The coaches know that Dak cannot hit players in stride. So they use comebacks and boots almost exclusively.

Only 14% of Dak’s throws after his rookie season have been on designed bootlegs. Comebacks are a staple of any offense and around 40% of all plays will utilize at least one comeback route, so that’s a meaningless point. It’s like saying we utilize lots of slants. Everyone does.

So in short, incorrect. Here I’ll help: Prescott is excellent at many downfield concepts against most coverages. A staple of our offense and probably his most effective concepts are all verts and post corner. Against man and cover 2 he eats those up and gets better as his career goes on. His biggest weakness are cover 3 shells with disguised underneath coverage, as it takes away the post and deep corners and makes vertical and seen routes more difficult to read. It’s the thing he needs to improve on the most.

Defenses know that he cannot throw to a moving target and just sit in zones realizing that he cannot make 10 competent throws in a drive to score a td.

This is just complete nonsense, you have no idea what you’re talking about

 

[NotForLong]

I still question why dak will not use his legs. Its what helped him a lot when he came into the league. He should not be a strict pocket passer... hell josh allen isn't even a strict pocket passer at times. he runs a lot.

In case you have been loving under a rock the last 2 years . . . i even added a red circle to help point it out
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Not even a pair of Jordans can help

 

[NeverBeGameOver]

Last year the Dallas Cowboys and Dak sort of reminded me of my alma mater Texas Tech.

Put up crazy numbers on offense but then when we play a really good team we lay an egg, this is something I've seen Tech do for 20 years. Cowboys were #1 in offense then we play the 49ers in the playoffs and can only manage 17 points at home. Dak threw for a decent amount of yards 254 but only 1 TD and 1 INT. Including the playoffs the Cowboys won only 1 game where we rushed for under 100 yards last year and it was the game Dak was hurt and Rush played, yep.

This year Bucs are looking like the best defense in the league and Dak can only manage 3 points before he gets hurt and that was the end of the game. Great QBs are supposed to beat great defenses if they can't what good are they?

Now Amari's gone and Dak has no rapport with CeeDee to boot. I would stay with Rush but we'll get Dak again and Rush will leave after this season.

That, along with never being able to put it all together is the most frustrating thing about Dallas.

When the offense is great, the defense is historically bad.

Now that the defense is great, the offense is suspect.

 

[NotForLong]

More mobile

More accurate

Stronger arm

More experience

Most importantly though, and this is really what separates good QBs from everyone else, he can stand in the pocket and read an NFL defense. He doesn’t require everything be simplified and set up for him..

you were describing Dak here . . . wow

Rush is what most backups are, two read QBs who rely on the run game and playaction to set up easy throws.

This actually describes Dak to a T

It's like some people live in an alternate reality . . . it is really mind bobbggling

 

[nobody]

If we are really going to compare them, we need to see Cooper in a game where he has to throw it 40-50 times to keep up.

Can he? I love what he's doing, but we can't know that yet.

A lot of that "to keep up" was because Dak engineered a bunch of three and outs that got them behind in the first place...just saying.

Is Rush a better QB? Not really, but he does seem able to read defenses better.

 

[NotForLong]

Only 14% of Dak’s throws after his rookie season have been on designed bootlegs. Comebacks are a staple of any offense and around 40% of all plays will utilize at least one comeback route, so that’s a meaningless point. It’s like saying we utilize lots of slants. Everyone does.

So in short, incorrect. Here I’ll help: Prescott is excellent at many downfield concepts against most coverages. A staple of our offense and probably his most effective concepts are all verts and post corner. Against man and cover 2 he eats those up and gets better as his career goes on. His biggest weakness are cover 3 shells with disguised underneath coverage, as it takes away the post and deep corners and makes vertical and seen routes more difficult to read. It’s the thing he needs to improve on the most.



This is just complete nonsense, you have no idea what you’re talking about

I am gonna have to disagree . . I have been keeping count ever since I have a notebook near my TV . .
The correct number is 19%

 

[bayeslife]

Lol be honest all of those are YES

 

[Mr_437]

Yeah I saw that . . . like a Josh Allen or Romo . . . just enough to evade if need be . . . But with this O Line coming together and Gallup returning . . . there may be no need to run

Just sit back and pick the Defense apart

Facts

 

[NotForLong]

Dak needs to learn from what Rush is doing. Dak holds the ball too long where Rush makes the read and let's it go trusting the reciever and the play call.

I think you are right . . . in fact I think Dak should take the advanced course and sit out the whole yearvon the bench . . . That way He can be good and smart Next year

 

[khiladi]

I think Peyton was the absolute best pre-snap. His reads and constant audibles at the line of scrimmage is legendary.

Definitely arguable.

 

[dfense]

Would love to hear what our fans think, logically.

Better pure passer? No
Better at reading defense? No
Better runner? Sure maybe
More decisive? No
More expensive? Yes

That first drive in the beginning of the 4th quarter. Beautiful pass to Lamb in the endzone. Dak gets a FG there. That is the difference.

 

[blueblood70]

Was it on Moore? I always blamed Moore but it seems like its been Dak. I mean Rush is playing with less talent than Dak has had and is just better at running the offense. I do think Dak has better arm strength and we will see how this plays out but Dak holds the ball too long and isnt good at reading the defense

Not even close!!!

open your eyes, level of competition, team play, and situational football is and was NOT THE SAME. just stop the nonsensical responses. 1st game was Moore (abandoning the run game, bad play calls), was the OL, was the Wrs not getting open, it was CLEAR to non-hater POV.. Natinal media saying the same thing, ex-players said the same thing post game last night., if you dont see it, thats on you and all your hater cronies.

Game 1

the ENTIRE offense and offensive coaches were pathetic, thats a Fact....rush would have been cRushed by that Bucs did like they did the next week to NO outplayed us and we weren't prepared,

get over it,

so was Rogers, Stafford, burrows, Murray and 8 playoff teams other than us lost game 1, ands didn't look good week one. Dak didnt get chance to bounce back, got hurt get over it. no player plays 17 perfect or great games, that's not how it works.

 

[blueblood70]

That first drive in the beginning of the 4th quarter. Beautiful pass to Lamb in the endzone. Dak gets a FG there. That is the difference.

dak threw 4 fades like that just last year for TDS..

 

[75boyz]

When it gets to the point where there's little to no separation from the starter to backup QB performance wise, and it has...

Lotsa things need to be considered in the offseason in order to improve this team for the future.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Not even close!!!

open your eyes, level of competition, team play, and situational football is and was NOT THE SAME. just stop the nonsensical responses. 1st game was Moore (abandoning the run game, bad play calls), was the OL, was the Wrs not getting open, it was CLEAR to non-hater POV.. Natinal media saying the same thing, ex-players said the same thing post game last night., if you dont see it, thats on you and all your hater cronies.

Game 1

the ENTIRE offense and offensive coaches were pathetic, thats a Fact....rush would have been cRushed by that Bucs did like they did the next week to NO outplayed us and we weren't prepared,

get over it,

so was Rogers, Stafford, burrows, Murray and 8 playoff teams other than us lost game 1, ands didn't look good week one. Dak didnt get chance to bounce back, got hurt get over it. no player plays 17 perfect or great games, that's not how it works.

More excuses for Dak.How about some accountability for Dak being the worst player on the field for that game.Stop blaming the coaches.The Oline was actually pretty solid.How about Dak actually makes a play when everything isn’t perfect, maybe use your legs more.