No hate on Dak, but what does he do better than Rush?

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He's a better playmaker, creating something out of nothing. He's more 'dynamic,' capable of putting up bigger numbers.

On the surface, you could argue Brady does nothing better than a number of top QB's over his career.
Look to me like Rush was making plays....also had couple good escapes...
If CeeDee would have caught the two drops, Rush would have been over 300 yards.
CeeDee catches one, Rush is right there at 300.
 

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Let’s look at what the average backup quarterback does in the NFL and what a team expects of them. When a back up quarterback comes into the game you hope they don’t throw three interceptions and a half of football. You hope they can just barely manage the game enough to keep you in it and give you a chance to win. You don’t have high expectations for them. When you game planning, you do so in a way that is very protective of the less talented fragile quarterback. Hoping just to stay close and seek out a win in the end.
Cooper, similar to Romo, he’s showing that he’s much more than that. There’s a lot of potential there. He doesn’t throw interceptions, he makes big league throws and big lead reads and does not hesitate. He gets the ball out quickly and accurately. I’d want to see him for a few more weeks before I would say he’s “starter material“ but it’s sure looking that way.
 

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Would love to hear what our fans think, logically.

Better pure passer? No
Better at reading defense? No
Better runner? Sure maybe
More decisive? No
More expensive? Yes
Dak had 6-0 run last year, 2018 5-0 he destroys the East, while rush does JUST ENOUGH. stop being blind hater and in fact stop talking money Daks under contract and hes here for this year stay in the now..he is getting his job back and deservingly so.. who cares BU making less is available. Rush is nice backup but is limited, period.

THE biggest thing i see during the last 2 weeks in MOORE he calls a very different game for Rush then he does for Prescott. there run heavy and balance. for some reason he seems to just call mostly pass pays for Dak and allows dak to audible into run if it looks better.

Daks A far better qb then rush But Moore needs to call the game the same way and Dak and this team will be better off..daks better, period and deserves his job back. that why, the national media's saying, the coaches are saying it,

and ALL SANE fans not wearing dak Hate goggles would say, dak should get his job back... hes clearly a better qb...

hes had far better win streaks..jeez how about 11, 6, 3 in 2019 and in 2018 that late run what 5 in a row? i mean do we have a bunch of fans with selective memory. Nothing Rush has done has been impressive with the exception hes not messing it up, hes doing just enough. that great we found out the coaches and owner KNEW Rush was the best choice and did have plan at WR, OL, and Defense..even Maher was the best choice.

all this love for player(s) most here came out and said Rush is trash and we were DONE when dak went down unless we traded for a better qb.. Noah browns was called trash they wanted smith or Vasher, Tyler 73 wouldn't hold up and shouldn't thbe the LT they wanted some expensive vets left over , Jerry had NO plan, Maher worst ever choice, and we wouldn't win another game this season.

HEY MODS can you go back after daks injury week one and please PIN all those posts back up and highlight and call out every zoner who said those things and now are flipping their opinion and now are saying the opposite. hypocrites.

go pin mine i said rush would be the best choice because he knew the offense and dak would be back before you could get anther qb ready to play.
odd how narratives get busted.

so now Dak comes back and pays the better teams lie he did with the Bucs now maybe rams eagles B2B and will be under fan microscope. they are clearly better then Bengal's, giants and commanders..

so now the morons will say look we took rush out and lost and will claim they are right.
thats not how it works..

Dak will be playing better teams, period. he give us the best chance to win those games because we will need MORE Offense and Rush is don't screw it up a Bus driver.. most underwhelming production at qb, which is fine but we will need MORE offense and daks the qb to do it on our roster. win or lose its the best decision and im getting tired head having to wake up fans with moronic statements about how Rush should keep the job.

if you do not know or agree, well, you are clueless. these posts don't age well.. real sports fans see though it. even the national media say Dak is better and should get his job back, all of them.
 

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Lolwut? Romo improved every year. Romo started with a QB competition and won it. I doubt he would’ve refused future ones. He was rightfully deemed a franchise QB, all of it earned, so there was no need to draft one for competition.

And when Romo was class and wanted a QB competition (even though he should’ve been given the job back as a ten year starter) where Dak took over due to injuries to him and Moore and was simply handed the job, Dak was coddled and handed it once again.

Romo also made some bonehead mistakes, and never had a threat of losing the starter position, was my point.

He had the problem of never having a great defense, but did make mistakes that were purely on him.

I really liked him as a QB1 trust me, but there were some throws in post season games where he alone cost them games nor than once trying to thread a needle.

Let's be honest.
 

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Yes, they absolutely did and KC adjusted well.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article255018537.html

No one is talking about the last several seasons where Dak played well. We are talking about post Denver. This is the challenge he has to overcome. KM has done well with Rush. Keep the same game plan and see what Dak can do.

"You guys" and your hatred prevents any rational conversation.
But that's the point. Dak wasn't playing well. You're just spending time on useless garbage time stats that mean nothing.

Against good teams once November arrives and the real season starts, Dak is dreadful. He's lost and overmatched, and he loses games almost single-handedly with his unwillingness to take tough throws. He's the bus driver of all bus drivers. If the receiver isn't wide open, he holds it and holds it until the pocket collapses around him. And now, he doesn't run well anymore either, so he's a sitting duck.

Opposing teams design their entire scheme against Dallas to put the ball in Dak's hands. They have no fear of him because he's ridiculously easy to defend for good defenses, who toy with him. They drop into zone coverages, put a spy on the running back, and dare Dak to throw it, which he can't do.

Dak was at his best his rookie season, and it's been downhill from there. He's 29 in his 7th season. This is what he is.
 

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Dak had 6-0 run last year, 2018 5-0 he destroys the East, while rush does JUST ENOUGH. stop being blind hater and in fact stop talking money Daks under contract and hes here for this year stay in the now..he is getting his job back and deservingly so.. who cares BU making less is available. Rush is nice backup but is limited, period.

THE biggest thing i see during the last 2 weeks in MOORE he calls a very different game for Rush then he does for Prescott. there run heavy and balance. for some reason he seems to just call mostly pass pays for Dak and allows dak to audible into run if it looks better.

Daks A far better qb then rush But Moore needs to call the game the same way and Dak and this team will be better off..daks better, period and deserves his job back. that why, the national media's saying, the coaches are saying it,

and ALL SANE fans not wearing dak Hate goggles would say, dak should get his job back... hes clearly a better qb...

hes had far better win streaks..jeez how about 11, 6, 3 in 2019 and in 2018 that late run what 5 in a row? i mean do we have a bunch of fans with selective memory. Nothing Rush has done has been impressive with the exception hes not messing it up, hes doing just enough. that great we found out the coaches and owner KNEW Rush was the best choice and did have plan at WR, OL, and Defense..even Maher was the best choice.

all this love for player(s) most here came out and said Rush is trash and we were DONE when dak went down unless we traded for a better qb.. Noah browns was called trash they wanted smith or Vasher, Tyler 73 wouldn't hold up and shouldn't thbe the LT they wanted some expensive vets left over , Jerry had NO plan, Maher worst ever choice, and we wouldn't win another game this season.

HEY MODS can you go back after daks injury week one and please PIN all those posts back up and highlight and call out every zoner who said those things and now are flipping their opinion and now are saying the opposite. hypocrites.

go pin mine i said rush would be the best choice because he knew the offense and dak would be back before you could get anther qb ready to play.
odd how narratives get busted.

so now Dak comes back and pays the better teams lie he did with the Bucs now maybe rams eagles B2B and will be under fan microscope. they are clearly better then Bengal's, giants and commanders..

so now the morons will say look we took rush out and lost and will claim they are right.
thats not how it works..

Dak will be playing better teams, period. he give us the best chance to win those games because we will need MORE Offense and Rush is don't screw it up a Bus driver.. most underwhelming production at qb, which is fine but we will need MORE offense and daks the qb to do it on our roster. win or lose its the best decision and im getting tired head having to wake up fans with moronic statements about how Rush should keep the job.

if you do not know or agree, well, you are clueless. these posts don't age well.. real sports fans see though it. even the national media say Dak is better and should get his job back, all of them.
Utter nonsense.

Dak and Rush are the same guy, except Rush will actually anticipate and throw the ball out quickly, and I don't mean to checkdowns.

Moore calls the same plays for Dak, but Dak won't throw it.
 

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He's a better playmaker, creating something out of nothing. He's more 'dynamic,' capable of putting up bigger numbers.

On the surface, you could argue Brady does nothing better than a number of top QB's over his career.

Just speaking to the present, we only have the bucs to go on. He was pathetic. But if he wasn’t hurt, would he beat the bengals and giants? Maybe, prolly not both. He doesn’t have the brain for it anymore.
 

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Dak had 6-0 run last year, 2018 5-0 he destroys the East, while rush does JUST ENOUGH. stop being blind hater and in fact stop talking money Daks under contract and hes here for this year stay in the now..he is getting his job back and deservingly so.. who cares BU making less is available. Rush is nice backup but is limited, period.

THE biggest thing i see during the last 2 weeks in MOORE he calls a very different game for Rush then he does for Prescott. there run heavy and balance. for some reason he seems to just call mostly pass pays for Dak and allows dak to audible into run if it looks better.

Daks A far better qb then rush But Moore needs to call the game the same way and Dak and this team will be better off..daks better, period and deserves his job back. that why, the national media's saying, the coaches are saying it,

and ALL SANE fans not wearing dak Hate goggles would say, dak should get his job back... hes clearly a better qb...

hes had far better win streaks..jeez how about 11, 6, 3 in 2019 and in 2018 that late run what 5 in a row? i mean do we have a bunch of fans with selective memory. Nothing Rush has done has been impressive with the exception hes not messing it up, hes doing just enough. that great we found out the coaches and owner KNEW Rush was the best choice and did have plan at WR, OL, and Defense..even Maher was the best choice.

all this love for player(s) most here came out and said Rush is trash and we were DONE when dak went down unless we traded for a better qb.. Noah browns was called trash they wanted smith or Vasher, Tyler 73 wouldn't hold up and shouldn't thbe the LT they wanted some expensive vets left over , Jerry had NO plan, Maher worst ever choice, and we wouldn't win another game this season.

HEY MODS can you go back after daks injury week one and please PIN all those posts back up and highlight and call out every zoner who said those things and now are flipping their opinion and now are saying the opposite. hypocrites.

go pin mine i said rush would be the best choice because he knew the offense and dak would be back before you could get anther qb ready to play.
odd how narratives get busted.

so now Dak comes back and pays the better teams lie he did with the Bucs now maybe rams eagles B2B and will be under fan microscope. they are clearly better then Bengal's, giants and commanders..

so now the morons will say look we took rush out and lost and will claim they are right.
thats not how it works..

Dak will be playing better teams, period. he give us the best chance to win those games because we will need MORE Offense and Rush is don't screw it up a Bus driver.. most underwhelming production at qb, which is fine but we will need MORE offense and daks the qb to do it on our roster. win or lose its the best decision and im getting tired head having to wake up fans with moronic statements about how Rush should keep the job.

if you do not know or agree, well, you are clueless. these posts don't age well.. real sports fans see though it. even the national media say Dak is better and should get his job back, all of them.
Dak isn't a rookie, we've all seen what he's capable of.

Overpaid QB1.
 

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Dak had 6-0 run last year, 2018 5-0 he destroys the East, while rush does JUST ENOUGH. stop being blind hater and in fact stop talking money Daks under contract and hes here for this year stay in the now..he is getting his job back and deservingly so.. who cares BU making less is available. Rush is nice backup but is limited, period.

THE biggest thing i see during the last 2 weeks in MOORE he calls a very different game for Rush then he does for Prescott. there run heavy and balance. for some reason he seems to just call mostly pass pays for Dak and allows dak to audible into run if it looks better.

Daks A far better qb then rush But Moore needs to call the game the same way and Dak and this team will be better off..daks better, period and deserves his job back. that why, the national media's saying, the coaches are saying it,

and ALL SANE fans not wearing dak Hate goggles would say, dak should get his job back... hes clearly a better qb...

hes had far better win streaks..jeez how about 11, 6, 3 in 2019 and in 2018 that late run what 5 in a row? i mean do we have a bunch of fans with selective memory. Nothing Rush has done has been impressive with the exception hes not messing it up, hes doing just enough. that great we found out the coaches and owner KNEW Rush was the best choice and did have plan at WR, OL, and Defense..even Maher was the best choice.

all this love for player(s) most here came out and said Rush is trash and we were DONE when dak went down unless we traded for a better qb.. Noah browns was called trash they wanted smith or Vasher, Tyler 73 wouldn't hold up and shouldn't thbe the LT they wanted some expensive vets left over , Jerry had NO plan, Maher worst ever choice, and we wouldn't win another game this season.

HEY MODS can you go back after daks injury week one and please PIN all those posts back up and highlight and call out every zoner who said those things and now are flipping their opinion and now are saying the opposite. hypocrites.

go pin mine i said rush would be the best choice because he knew the offense and dak would be back before you could get anther qb ready to play.
odd how narratives get busted.

so now Dak comes back and pays the better teams lie he did with the Bucs now maybe rams eagles B2B and will be under fan microscope. they are clearly better then Bengal's, giants and commanders..

so now the morons will say look we took rush out and lost and will claim they are right.
thats not how it works..

Dak will be playing better teams, period. he give us the best chance to win those games because we will need MORE Offense and Rush is don't screw it up a Bus driver.. most underwhelming production at qb, which is fine but we will need MORE offense and daks the qb to do it on our roster. win or lose its the best decision and im getting tired head having to wake up fans with moronic statements about how Rush should keep the job.

if you do not know or agree, well, you are clueless. these posts don't age well.. real sports fans see though it. even the national media say Dak is better and should get his job back, all of them.

Good post. But he’s not worth the money he’s earning and hence why a rush, even if he’s not as good in your eyes, is a better franchise decision than Dak.
 

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Dak has more experience. That's it!
So what . . . what good is it when he gets confused and panics?

Experience ahould breed composure from and understanding of been there done that . . . but this is football with insane athletes running around in a compact space

Dak's inabilities are greater then Rush's lack of game time . . . . But Rush is not a rookie . . . He is a veteran and He has been here a long time and He understands the mind of Kellen if nothing else . . . . In addition to this He has been right there on the field hearing the play called and reading the field

Already there is an onvious improvement that can be recognized . . . Another primer iwith Washington before the real Test . . . The Rams

Its gonna be exciting to watch

Especially with the emergence of the 2 young guns at Te the return of Gallup and the continue domination of our O Line

Lamb Gallup Noah and eventually Washington looks down right Nasty with a QB like Rush . . . add in the enthusiasm of the young TE and The Boys may have just what it takes to compliment this Defense
 

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That would mean that like Dak he's fumbled or turned the ball over a few times making lots of bad throws, and they are behind over 21 points.

Then he needs to throw that many...... Or he plays like he's doing now, minimizing mistakes, and keeping them in the game, utilizing the ground game, and not forcing stupid throws he can't make into coverage.

Maybe that too?
 

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Rush has the gift of sensing pressure and always finds an open area where he can step into the throw where Quack panics and chokes . Very impressed the way Rush led his receivers with perfectly thrown passes even though some were dropped . He can read his receivers and gets rid of the ball much quicker than Quack .
Bottom line : Rush is more than just a capable backup and should start even
when Quack is back .
 

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and that cant be changed so its a MOOT argument.

so does Murray, cousins, Stafford, and many others who have a bad game or games throughout and long season but more then make up for it..
No, they are worth it.
 

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Just speaking to the present, we only have the bucs to go on. He was pathetic. But if he wasn’t hurt, would he beat the bengals and giants? Maybe, prolly not both. He doesn’t have the brain for it anymore.
the ENTIRE offense and offensive coaches were pathetic, thats a Fact....rush would have been cRushed by that Bucs did like they did the next week to NO outplayed us and we weren't prepared,

get over it

so was Rogers, Stafford, burrows, Murray and 8 playoff teams other than us lost game 1, ands didn't look good week one. Dak didnt get chance to bounce back, got hurt get over it. no player plays 17 perfect or great games, that's not how it works.
 

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Brady is arguably the greatest pre-snap read QB in the history of the game, while having the tools to get the ball where it needs to be.
I think Peyton was the absolute best pre-snap. His reads and constant audibles at the line of scrimmage is legendary.
 

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Dak doesn’t read defenses well or process quickly enough, so you’re dead wrong about that.

I understand fans who don’t understand what they’re watching when they turn on a football game think that. That doesn’t make it so however.
 
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