No hate on Dak, but what does he do better than Rush?

[G2]

I think it's awesome that we are getting wins with Rush, keep 'em coming.

 

[CWR]

Wondering if this is the product of Dak checking out of plays…something to ponder

Have my suspicions, but am only going with what I KNOW.

"KILL, KILL" only created runs last night. Not sure how we'd know either way.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Wondering if this is the product of Dak checking out of plays…something to ponder

Checking out of plays doesn't change WR routes

 

[Denim Chicken]

I think it's more Rush making the call. QB's do have options at the line.

typically pass / run, not changing WR routes.

 

[kskboys]

Would love to hear what our fans think, logically.

Better pure passer? No
Better at reading defense? No
Better runner? Sure maybe
More decisive? No
More expensive? Yes

Rush "throws guys open". Funny thing is, most that use this statement have no idea what it means.

I watched closely last night. Rush mostly threw before the WR broke or right at the break. Ball was delivered much earlier.

What does this mean? Instincts. Rush is loaded through and through w/ this IT factor, he just knows where to go. Unexplainable. Gawdawmighty I just wish he had a little more arm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NotForLong]

Let’s be real here:

Dak lucked out with a load franchise, but because of his marketability, was declared something he never was. He was always seen as over-rated and there were questions about whether he was the right man for the job.

Teams were never threatened by him, they just respected the OL and RG so much, they made it easier for this average QB to read the field consistently. As I always said, you can tell by how opponents planned for him. Dak was seeing single safety high and man coverage and that was a testimony more to the RG and OL. No defense would defend a guy like Herbert in his first year, let alone year 6.

Dak still throws balls late, default to checkdowns, fall into horrible mechanics, has awful pocket presence, needs his OC to scheme WR getting open on early reads for him. Dak has NEVER been able to put even his “best QB traits together consistently” . Yeah, he may have a game here and there, where everything is going right, but that’s every QB in the league with a loaded roster that has an offense tailored to his skill set for 7 years running, with all sorts of weapons at his disposal. The things he always did well, he’s improved but how glaring weaknesses are still evident to anybody that watched. He can’t overcome them as he’s peaked. The TB game was arguably his best game ever as a Cowboy and that was one where TB just played aggressive man and didn’t shadow any help to Amari Cooper, with the CB playing off, and him and Dak just played pitch and catch all day, while Zeke was stone-walling the extra rushers.

This isn’t a QB like Rodgers. Mahomes, Herbert, Josh Allen or any of the others that have all the tools, it’s just a matter of it all coming together for them at the right moment to consistently make runs for SBs. Every year for Dak you’ll see extended stretches of horrible play, with him being the weak link.

None of this is new, it’s on his draft scouting report.

 

[kskboys]

typically pass / run, not changing WR routes.

Maybe Dak is simply throwing to the wrong WR? I don't think the routes being run has changed all that much.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

NOT THE SAME AT ALL... dak was a young healthy and next man up winnig 11 games in row against top competition in that run, while Romo was at the end of the line too broken and he never played again, correct move. Daks in his prime under contract and hasnt done anything to lose his spot nor has Rush been that impressive to take the job..

we can revisit at the end of his deal or when it teams friendly enough to move on, this is NOT THE TIME

I am not arguing any of that. I am arguing the basic philosophy of...winning. You must have missed Jerry's STATED rationale for keeping Dak in. Yours and mine don't matter.

 

[NotForLong]

Call me what you want, but he isn't a franchise QB1. He makes poor decisions, and hasn't improved over time. Those guys listed above were in rebuild years until they had a solid team. Last year Dak had one.

Stats against the East are weak. Cooper is pretty much exposing Dak for what he really is, an average QB at best. He would not have those numbers if he were in the AFC. He's run them up against weak teams, but not against winning teams. That's what really matters, post season.

Straight from Fan Dual below, which pretty much defines Dak,

"Last season, the Cowboys went 8-8 while Prescott threw 30 touchdowns to 11 interceptions.

However, 22 of those TDs, and just 3 of those INTs, came against teams that missed the postseason. Prescott led the team to a 7-2 record in such contests. However, when facing teams that made the playoffs, the Cowboys went a miserable 1-6, and Prescott tossed 8 scores and 8 picks."

Sorry, but that is the facts, and sums him up perfectly. He's only viewed as top ten, because the NFL is lacking in quality QBs. The FO has a long history of over paying the wrong guys. They screwed the pooch on this one.

Go back and look at what I stated over time. Spend the money on a defense, that win super bowls, even with average QBs sometimes. No great QB won with a mediocre defense. Jerry loves his offense, but last night, that defense won that game.

Cooper isn't fancy, but playing solid football and making good decisions, and also doesn't throw behind his receivers, or into, double and triple coverage. Dak thinks he's better than he really his, where Cooper plays to his ability and strengths.

 

[khiladi]

You want to provide some data as to that actually happening?

Furthermore if it is the case I will blame Dak first, but the coaches ultimately need to hold him accountable. We can't abandon the run, whether it be qb choice or coordinator.

Show me where he's done that to an extent noteworthy.

When it works, “it’s taking the next step”.

He did the same thing in 2017 against the Giants in the red zone, as I’ve posted before. This is when Linehan had to rest the powers from him after the Denver game and run Zeke like 20 plus attempts per game. Then Zeke got suspended and Dak was a joke.


https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/pla...t-not-great-in-win-over-giants-dallas-cowboys

. He was frequently confused by the looks New York threw his way and settled time and time again to dump the ball underneath to his second or third option.

Dak in year 8 still has this trait.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Once again the hater takes a leap.

My point wasn't Dak would "figure it out."

My point is he needs the opportunity with a properly called game. As in the last TWO games Rush played. Then from there the organization will hopefully play the better qb.

So you know for a FACT..Dak's games are not "properly called". But Coops....are.

 

[CWR]

So you know for a FACT..Dak's games are not "properly called". But Coops....are.

How many time did we run the ball vs Tampa?

Ok, how about the last 2 games?

 

[NotForLong]

I like what Rush is doing so far, hopefully he can keep it up. The one play I was impressed with, as sad as it is, was them getting the ball snapped quickly after that one play that could have been reviewed. Rush got it off so fast the Giants/refs didnt have time to look at it. Thats a thing Dak couldnt do, for some reason. I would be yelling at the screen to get the snap off with Dak after a play that could be contested and he would take forever.

Yo me too . . . when it happened all I could do was Smile . . . Savvy

 

[TheSport78]

He's more hip and cool.

That's about it.

Cooler tattoos. Good pregame hyper.

 

[Kingofholland]

Maybe Rush is on the brink of breaking out, but this is the same QB many of you wanted to cast off in favor of Grier or Dinucci during the preseason because he didn't show much. Now after 2 games we're ready to jettison the franchise QB and go with Rush as the starter?

As fans we definitely have short term memories and live in the moment with knee jerk reactions. It's great to see Rush being an efficient QB, protecting the ball, and taking what the defense gives him, but you seriously want to turn the keys over after 2 games?

In 1994 Jason Garrett started 1 game threw for 315 yards 2 tds and 1 int for a 109 QB rating. He matched the number of games Troy had that season above 300 yards in a single game and Troy was coming off 2 of the worst games of that season. Maybe we should have just rolled with Garrett and would have won the Super Bowl that year? Lol

Let's settle down the talk, see how the next few games play out and avoid rushing to conclusions.

 

[G2]

Rush "throws guys open". Funny thing is, most that use this statement have no idea what it means.

I watched closely last night. Rush mostly threw before the WR broke or right at the break. Ball was delivered much earlier.

What does this mean? Instincts. Rush is loaded through and through w/ this IT factor, he just knows where to go. Unexplainable. Gawdawmighty I just wish he had a little more arm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's more because it's literally his 3rd start ever. Once there's more to observe, that will change.
Another advantage he has is a knowledge of the offense. And the chemistry he has with back ups.

 

[khiladi]

So you know for a FACT..Dak's games are not "properly called". But Coops....are.

They just make stuff up.

Cooper basically ran the same offense against the Vikings and had no problems getting the ball to Cooper and Wilson over the middle.

Rush has basically been with Dallas his whole caree, under Linehan and Moore. He runs the same offense. Rush’s qualities are pretty self-evident, including better anticipation and pocket presence. As well as getting the ball out earlier. That hardly has anything to do with ‘running the ball’ more.

The play calling for Dalton in the Giants game when he came in for injured Dak and won the game, same play calling.

 

[starfan1]

Did you watch the game last night . . . The Cooper led Cowboys are getting Non Calls . . .

Penalties are a non excuse. . . Cooper won inspite of the refs yesterday

Yep there we go with the QB win stat again and you didnt answer the question. My guess is if was a Romo led team that lost with 14 penalties youd be all over the zebra excuse train. its all good lets just enjoy the win. Cooper unless he goes on an unlkely win streak which includes the Rams and Eagles will be holding the clipboard soon .. Im actually against it the offense looks better right now but we havent played anybody of significance yet.I dont believe in cincy

 

[CWR]

When it works, “it’s taking the next step”.

He did the same thing in 2017 against the Giants in the red zone, as I’ve posted before. This is when Linehan had to rest the powers from him after the Denver game and run Zeke like 20 plus attempts per game. Then Zeke got suspended and Dak was a joke.


https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/pla...t-not-great-in-win-over-giants-dallas-cowboys



Dak in year 8 still has this trait.

Let me make certain I have this correct. Your contention is KM doesn't abandon the run, and it is all Daks doing?

 

[NotForLong]

Rush "throws guys open". Funny thing is, most that use this statement have no idea what it means.

I watched closely last night. Rush mostly threw before the WR broke or right at the break. Ball was delivered much earlier.

What does this mean? Instincts. Rush is loaded through and through w/ this IT factor, he just knows where to go. Unexplainable. Gawdawmighty I just wish he had a little more arm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes . . . but there are 2 examples of it not being an absolute necessity . . . Brady and Montana . . .Not comparing Him . . . Just saying that It factor can have success in thr NFL without having an Arm like Montana