No hate on Dak, but what does he do better than Rush?

[kskboys]

It's more because it's literally his 3rd start ever. Once there's more to observe, that will change.
Another advantage he has is a knowledge of the offense. And the chemistry he has with back ups.

I don't think that's what I'm referring to. It's more about throwing before or at the break as compared to only throwing once the WR is open.

I do agree Cooper will struggle mightily against good D's. That is to be seen.

 

[khiladi]

Let me make certain I have this correct. Your contention is KM doesn't abandon the run, and it is all Daks doing?

I just gave you proof that Dak has the ability to check out of run plays. So now the onus is on you to prove that Moore doesn’t give Dak run options.

When Dak throws 40 times and posts 5 TDs against JV players like the Eagles in meaningless games, nobody blaming the play calling then.

 

[NotForLong]

Maybe Dak is simply throwing to the wrong WR? I don't think the routes being run has changed all that much.

Maybe Dak is throwing to the Right Wr but at the wrong time

 

[kskboys]

Yes . . . but there are 2 examples of it not being an absolute necessity . . . Brady and Montana . . .Not comparing Him . . . Just saying that It factor can have success in thr NFL without having an Arm like Montana

Not what I'm referring to. It's not about having a strong arm, it's about having a strong enough arm, a completely different matter. At some point, our O will need bullet outs to beat good D's. Cooper cannot throw them.

He has a beautiful deep ball, BTW. There's a lot I love about Cooper.

On a scale of 1-10 regarding arm strength, Montana and Brady both have a 6-7. Cooper has a 4.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe Dak is throwing to the Right Wr but at the wrong time

That is definitely part of it.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Maybe Dak is simply throwing to the wrong WR? I don't think the routes being run has changed all that much.

You didnt notice anything different about how Moore called that game?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

It's more because it's literally his 3rd start ever. Once there's more to observe, that will change.
Another advantage he has is a knowledge of the offense. And the chemistry he has with back ups.

Are you saying cooper has more of an advantage "knowledge of the offense" and "chemistry"...than Dak?

I must be confusing your point.

 

[G2]

I don't think that's what I'm referring to. It's more about throwing before or at the break as compared to only throwing once the WR is open.

I do agree Cooper will struggle mightily against good D's. That is to be seen.

Timing routes. That's almost all they ran. When the run game is working like it did, it forced the defense to set up front. Not every play, but I'll check the 22 and see how many. They didn't do as many curl routes. Also, had Lamb came down with a couple passes it's an entirely different offensive result.
Rush seems relaxed too. Huge plus.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Prescott throws with more velocity. Prescott is more mobile. I’m sure Prescott can throw a deeper ball.

As far as football IQ goes, who knows. We’ve barely seen Rush and he isn’t making adjustments at the line like Peyton Manning or anything.

Prescott would be very good if he was more accurate. But his random worm burners and passes way behind receivers is really annoying.

 

[G2]

Are you saying cooper has more of an advantage "knowledge of the offense" and "chemistry"...than Dak?

I must be confusing your point.

I literally never said anything about Cooper, so yes. You're confused.

 

[NotForLong]

Yep there we go with the QB win stat again and you didnt answer the question. My guess is if was a Romo led team that lost with 14 penalties youd be all over the zebra excuse train. its all good lets just enjoy the win. Cooper unless he goes on an unlkely win streak which includes the Rams and Eagles will be holding the clipboard soon .. Im actually against it the offense looks better right now but we havent played anybody of significance yet.I dont believe in cincy

The refs attempted to throw a monkey wrench in last night and Cooper over came it

 

[offlimits]

Dak has more experience. That's it!

...and 7 years later Dak has ONE playoff win. Where is my sleep # bed?

 

[jterrell]

Would love to hear what our fans think, logically.

Better pure passer? No
Better at reading defense? No
Better runner? Sure maybe
More decisive? No
More expensive? Yes

If you are going to post stupid things no need to bother asking questions.
Cooper plays within himself. He'll take the check downs or throw it away. He takes near zero risks.
Thats it. That's the list of what he does better than Dak.

Dallas was the number 1 offense in football last year with Dak.
He had 1 bad game this year versus a defense that is allowing 9 points per game and brain-deads are running with that as if Dak wouldn't have torched the Giants last night to win by 30.
Stop being obtuse.

Specifically, Dak is a top 5 deep ball guy over the last 5 years buy all metrics. His accuracy on those deep balls far surpasses anything Rush can do.
He's also just more accurate in general.
Many of those passes that were caught last night were floated into space or required great catches but they were really good reads.

Dak has beat the Giants 9 straight times and it is light work for him.

 

[jterrell]

...and 7 years later Dak has ONE playoff win. Where is my sleep # bed?

How many did Romo have for his career?
How many does Rush have?
How many does the combined Dallas QB stable have since 1995??

 

[NotForLong]

No, they do not do the same thing with Mahomes and Dak. You guys just constantly try and throw mud at the wall to make it stick to defend Dak.

The difference between Mahomes and Dak, is the latter had the BEST OL and RG for years, meaning teams were forced to bring extra defenders in the box. The RG was doing exactly what it was suppose to, giving Dak easy looks. Any QB worth a grain of salt would have feasted in those conditions, but no defense would have played that high-risk strategy against a QB they feared. Because then teams would have to pick their poison. That’s why it was insanity to start Dak over Romo, especially with the way Zeke was not only running, but running as a home run threat.

On the other hand, with guys like Mahomes they were not. Teams decided to stop blitzing in 2022 to start the season, but they still were scoring unlike our resident QB, who looked like one of the worst QBs in the league. In fact, in 2020, he was still the second least most blitzed QB, while defenses made it a habit to try and come at Dak, as they were willing to risk an exposed secondary to try and bring pressure. Mahomes also still had ridiculous numbers when he was not blitzed, like against the Eagles he has 5 TDs.

So yeah, we all know QBs will ‘struggle’ passing against defenses that throw more folks and coverage and if you can get heat, but Dak Prescott is not that type of QB. His struggling is a whole different level of struggling even against bad teams, while the good QBs get used to it. Dak has always sucked against zone defenses. He’s always been known as a guy who needs his OC to get him the early reads.

Dropping the Hammer all day

 

[okstateCowboy]

Where you here in 2016? . . . and if so What was your position then? . . . The same?

I wanted Romo playing once he was ready.

 

[Haimerej]

I literally never said anything about Cooper, so yes. You're confused.

He responded to this-

It's more because it's literally his 3rd start ever. Once there's more to observe, that will change.
Another advantage he has is a knowledge of the offense. And the chemistry he has with back ups.

You're not talking about Cooper there?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

God how pretty were them deep shots? Just stepped into them nice and calm and delivered a catchable inbounds ball.

 

[kskboys]

You didnt notice anything different about how Moore called that game?

I'm not sure it has anything to do w/ the playcalling. I don't think that it has changed. It's more about the QB's decision making at the LOS. QBs have several options at the LOS, and then they have to go through progressions. I think Cooper goes through his progressions much more quickly. But even moreso, I think he has the weird uncanny ability to see what is going to happen and throw accordingly.

 

[CWR]

I just gave you proof that Dak has the ability to check out of run plays. So now the onus is on you to prove that Moore doesn’t give Dak run options.

When Dak throws 40 times and posts 5 TDs against JV players like the Eagles in meaningless games, nobody blaming the play calling then.

Again you exaggerated to make a point.

I have NEVER said Dak can't audible out of calls. Is there a single starting qb in the league who isn't able to audible?

The information I'd like is how often he moves from a run to a pass. I'm assuming none of us actually know.

I'm a COWBOYS fan, not a Dak fan. If he is the cause of our pathetic run games it's an issue that needs to be addressed period.