No mention of the failed challenge?

[Stash]

That was an awful challenge there was no way they were going to call that a PI. It wasn’t even close to being a clear-cut foul. It’s pretty obvious after five weeks what the standard is on PI calls. It cost us a challenge later in the game.

It's clear to me that the system the league has installed is a shamockery. It's there to cover their own *** against what they did last year against New Orleans, rendering their playoffs and Super Bowl a farce. They put this rule in so that they - not coaches - have the ability to overturn ridiculously missed calls, not to allow themselves to be corrected by teams and coaches. That's why they're shooting down all of these challenges.

 

[OmerV]

He wasn't flagged for loosing his cool. Since he lost the 1st challenge he gets a penalty here, its a dumb rule.

If we didn't have a challenge to use why did they review and overturn the ruling?

 

[OmerV]

That was an awful challenge there was no way they were going to call that a PI. It wasn’t even close to being a clear-cut foul. It’s pretty obvious after five weeks what the standard is on PI calls. It cost us a challenge later in the game.

You are getting your challenges mixed up. The one where Garrett slammed down the challenge flag was on the pass to Cooper where Cooper was called out of bounds and wasn't.

 

[KJJ]

It's clear to me that the system the league has installed is a shamockery. It's there to cover their own *** against what they did last year against New Orleans, rendering their playoffs and Super Bowl a farce. They put this rule in so that they - not coaches - have the ability to overturn ridiculously missed calls, not to allow themselves to be corrected by teams and coaches. That's why they're shooting down all of these challenges.

It’s become obvious they’re not going to reverse a PI call or change a non-PI call into a PI unless it’s beyond egregious.

 

[Dre11]

That was a very poor challenge call. There was no way it was going to get overturned. Because of that challenge, Garrett didn't have one available when Gallup was literally pulled down on the interception.

That was a goof challenge, it wasn't PI. With it being a 40 some yard penalty at a moment when you're trying to come back, you have to challenge it.

 

[Dre11]

He still made contact with the receiver before the ball got there and didn't get his head around. If he got his head around then it would have been clean.

It wasn't PI.

 

[KJJ]

You are getting your challenges mixed up. The one where Garrett slammed down the challenge flag was on the pass to Cooper where Cooper was called out of bounds and wasn't.

Yep, I was thinking of another one.

 

[jaythecowboy]

That was a goof challenge, it wasn't PI. With it being a 40 some yard penalty at a moment when you're trying to come back, you have to challenge it.

You have to get your head around to the ball to not get a PI call there.

 

[Tommy]

Garrett got baited into making that challenge by the official. He told Garrett if you don’t like the call then challenge it and Garrett proceeded to slam down the challenge flag. Just another poor coaching decision to add to Garrett’s resume.

Dumb post! He wasn't baited.

You guys need to quit making crap up.

 

[Proof]

Admittedly the roughing the passer call was pretty questionable, although I suppose it technically fits with the definition in the rulebook, but the calls with Quinn and Frederick were clearly correct. Quinn did not cause that OT to move. Quinn wasn't directly lined up he the OT, the OT stayed set even as Quin moved back, and then after a delay the OT decided to move in an awkward attempt to get a call. The call on the snap that hit Cobb was also the right call. it wasn't that the O-Linemen failed to get set, it's that the ball didn't snap before the O-Line moved. It was as if Frederick wasn't going on the same snap count as the rest of the team.

Yeah I get it, I'm saying that we typically get the raw end of those kinds of calls. Or have things called against us erroneously. It was refreshing to see them called correctly

 

[Jake]

we're talking Dallas vs Green Bay bud...

We heard you the first time.

 

[Tommy]

It's clear to me that the system the league has installed is a shamockery. It's there to cover their own *** against what they did last year against New Orleans, rendering their playoffs and Super Bowl a farce. They put this rule in so that they - not coaches - have the ability to overturn ridiculously missed calls, not to allow themselves to be corrected by teams and coaches. That's why they're shooting down all of these challenges.

This is exactly whats going on.

Eventually every coach will get on board and we wont see challenge flags on it anymore until we have another Saints incident.

 

[KJJ]

Dumb post! He wasn't baited.

You guys need to quit making crap up.

He clearly got baited and was angry at the official which is why he slammed the challenge flag down. He also used abusive language which drew the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

 

[glimmerman]

Call should have been made without a challenge. If they call it on Brown then that should have been called.

 

[Tommy]

He clearly got baited and was angry at the official which is why he slammed the challenge flag down. He also used abusive language which drew the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

The challenge you said he was baited on and the one that he threw the flag down were 2 different challenges.

 

[LandryFan]

The one where Garrett slammed down the flag was a good challenge - one the team came out on top of. Garrett just shouldn't have lost his cool, but I think the penalty was chicken sht anyway because over the years we have seen coaches tear into officials many times without a penalty.

Yep. Some people are confused on what happened on each challenge.

 

[charron]

If we didn't have a challenge to use why did they review and overturn the ruling?

were we out of time outs? They assess a penalty if we are out of time outs.

https://www.raiders.com/news/nfl-ap...ext=COACHES' CHALLENGE.,use of a team timeout.

 

[KJJ]

The challenge you said he was baited on and the one that he threw the flag down were 2 different challenges.

A lot was going on during that sequence we need to see the video again. Didn’t appear he wanted to throw the flag on the one where he slammed it down. The official told him if you don’t like the call then challenge it and.Garrett immediately slammed down the challenge flag and used abusive language drawing the penalty.

 

[InTheZone]

Garrett did right, the officiating crew will continue to royally screw us, regardless of what happens in other games.

 

[Tommy]

A lot was going on during that sequence we need to see the video again.

I don't.

The one where the ref told him to challenge it if he didn't like it he looked straight ahead and softly tossed it to the ground.

The one where he slammed it to the ground it seemed like he was yelling at the ref for missing such and obvious call and forcing him to lose his last challenge.