No Merriman vs Ware thread yet ?!?!?

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Merriman:

Vs. OAK
1st and 10 at OAK 19 :)53) A.Brooks sacked at OAK 16 for -3 yards (S.Merriman).
1st and 10 at OAK 47 (14:50) A.Brooks sacked at OAK 39 for -8 yards (S.Merriman).
3rd and 17 at SD 40 (2:25) A.Brooks sacked at SD 48 for -8 yards (S.Merriman).

Vs. TEN
0 Sacks

Vs. BAL
1st and 10 at BLT 25 :)30) S.McNair sacked at BLT 20 for -5 yards (S.Merriman).

Vs. PIT
1st and 10 at PIT 16 (11:19) B.Roethlisberger sacked at PIT 8 for -8 yards (sack split by D.Robinson and S.Merriman).

Vs. SF
3rd and 10 at SF 21 (14:45) A.Smith sacked at SF 15 for -6 yards (S.Merriman).

Vs. KC
0 Sacks

Vs. STL
2nd and 5 at SL 30 (6:26) M.Bulger sacked at SL 23 for -7 yards (S.Merriman).
1st and 10 at SD 37 (1:48) M.Bulger sacked at SD 41 for -4 yards (S.Merriman).
3rd and 6 at SL 43 (13:33) (Shotgun) M.Bulger sacked at SL 38 for -5 yards (S.Merriman).

Vs. BUF
3rd and 10 at BUF 47 (5:53) (Shotgun) J.Losman sacked at BUF 40 for -7 yards (S.Merriman).
1st and 10 at BUF 45 (2:59) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Losman sacked at BUF 33 for -12 yards (S.Merriman).

Vs. DEN
3rd and 14 at DEN 14 (3:59) (Shotgun) J.Cutler sacked at DEN 14 for 0 yards (S.Merriman).
2nd and 7 at DEN 13 (3:21) (Shotgun) J.Cutler sacked at DEN 7 for -6 yards (S.Merriman).

Vs. KC
0 Sacks

Vs. SEA
1st and 10 at SEA 29 (14:55) M.Hasselbeck sacked at SEA 25 for -4 yards (S.Merriman).
1st and 10 at SD 40 (6:34) M.Hasselbeck sacked at SD 45 for -5 yards (S.Merriman).
2nd and 15 at SEA 23 :)18) M.Hasselbeck sacked at SEA 23 for 0 yards (S.Merriman).

15.5 total

7.5 1st down sacks.
3 2nd down sacks.
5 3rd down sacks.


Ware:

1st and 10 at WAS 47 (6:02) M.Brunell sacked at WAS 36 for -11 yards (D.Ware).

3rd and 5 at PHI 45 (2:05) D.McNabb sacked at PHI 37 for -8 yards (D.Ware).

3rd and 8 at NYG 31 (12:09) (Shotgun) E.Manning sacked at NYG 21 for -10 yards (D.Ware).

2nd and 17 at WAS 27 (9:14) M.Brunell sacked at WAS 18 for -9 yards (D.Ware).

3rd and 4 at ARZ 46 (7:21) (Shotgun) M.Leinart sacked at ARZ 37 for -9 yards (D.Ware).

1st and 10 at IND 22 (8:21) P.Manning sacked at IND 12 for -10 yards (D.Ware).

2nd and 10 at NO 24 (14:11) D.Brees sacked at NO 17 for -7 yards (D.Ware).

3rd and 7 at ATL 26 (6:32) (Shotgun) M.Vick sacked at ATL 24 for -2 yards (sack split by D.Ware and B.Carpenter).

7.5 total

2 1st down sacks.
2 2nd down sacks.
3.5 3rd down sacks.
 

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What's the point of comparing now anyway. Merriman is possibly the best linebacker/d end currently playing.

Ware isn't as talented, he's still a good player.
 

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Blue&Silver;1255773 said:
What's the point of comparing now anyway. Merriman is possibly the best linebacker/d end currently playing.

Ware isn't as talented, he's still a good player.

I wouldnt agree with either of the statements you just made

the biggest difference is who coaches them...how anyone can argue differently I have no idea...San Diego has the best pass rushing team in the NFL, and it isnt just because of Merriman...its because of Wade Phillips

David
 

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I still wish we had both... if we going to do the woulda coulda shoulda! The Boys should have traded up for Merriman! We probally wouldnt have fan favorites Marcus Spears and Bobby Carpenter and maybe a Skyler Green, oh thats right!!!


But the way the Bolts use Merriman would have been a perfect compliment to the way we use Ware now!!!

Merriman lines up on the strong side and Ware on the other!!!
 

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dbair1967;1255778 said:
I wouldnt agree with either of the statements you just made

the biggest difference is who coaches them...how anyone can argue differently I have no idea...San Diego has the best pass rushing team in the NFL, and it isnt just because of Merriman...its because of Wade Phillips

David

True.

Scheme is very important.

JJT and Matt Mosley has tried to explain this a million times in their articles, our schemes are not as aggressive as other 3-4 schemes.

San Diego also has better players or I should say, players that are making a difference on the line than we do in Dallas.
 

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MONT17;1255780 said:
I still wish we had both... if we going to do the woulda coulda shoulda! The Boys should have traded up for Merriman! We probally wouldnt have fan favorites Marcus Spears and Bobby Carpenter and maybe a Skyler Green, oh thats right!!!


But the way the Bolts use Merriman would have been a perfect compliment to the way we use Ware now!!!

Merriman lines up on the strong side and Ware on the other!!!

How could we have both? If we would have taken Merriman, the Bolts would have taken Ware.
 

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Let's pump Demarcus full of steroids and then have this discussion.
 

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By the way...

I agree its both the SCHEME and the SUPPORTING CAST.

Its really is tough to compare the 2 fairly.

Ware has been a triple threat guy and Merriman has been one dimensional.

I just wanted to stir the pot some.
 

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I'm not going to form an opinion about Merriman until next year. He might not be on roids now but all the effects are not gone yet.

Next year hopefully we'll be able to compare them if you must.
 

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What about the other stats like forced fumbles, fumble recoveries, and interceptions. Ware has 2 touchdowns how many does merriman have?
 

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D-BOI99;1255797 said:
What about the other stats like forced fumbles, fumble recoveries, and interceptions. Ware has 2 touchdowns how many does merriman have?

Zero.
 

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D-BOI99;1255797 said:
What about the other stats like forced fumbles, fumble recoveries, and interceptions. Ware has 2 touchdowns how many does merriman have?

Come on now. I took my blue colored glasses off long ago on this matter. Merriman is a man among kids out there. It doesn't matter who coaches the guy, he's flat out dominating.

Ware is a nice player that could develop into a good player. Merriman is a monster.
 

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Blue&Silver;1255818 said:
Come on now. I took my blue colored glasses off long ago on this matter. Merriman is a man among kids out there. It doesn't matter who coaches the guy, he's flat out dominating.

Ware is a nice player that could develop into a good player. Merriman is a monster.

merriman is a monster because he's on steroids.
 

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Blue&Silver;1255818 said:
Come on now. I took my blue colored glasses off long ago on this matter. Merriman is a man among kids out there. It doesn't matter who coaches the guy, he's flat out dominating.

Ware is a nice player that could develop into a good player. Merriman is a monster.

I thought you were more worried about what TO is doing on Christmas Eve?

Anyway... Merriman rushes 99% of the time which is a lot more than Ware.

Any knowledgable person knows Ware is helping the team out by defending 3 areas.
 
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Blue&Silver;1255818 said:
Come on now. I took my blue colored glasses off long ago on this matter. Merriman is a man among kids out there. It doesn't matter who coaches the guy, he's flat out dominating.

Ware is a nice player that could develop into a good player. Merriman is a monster.

Ware is already a good player, but I agree he isn't near Merriman's level right now.

I doubt Merriman will ever be off the roids. He'll just be more careful in beating the system.

Still, I'd rather have the good, clean player in Ware than a dominating monster that could be suspended at any moment.
 

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Its actually quite simple.

If you want the dominant - "dirty" pass rusher take Merriman.

If you want the OVERALL - "clean" player take Ware.

I pick Ware.
 

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Kinda funny how both Merriman and Castillo are both "outsacking" Ware and Spears.

But both of San Diego's guys were busted for Roids.....

I'd still take our duo.
 

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smarta5150;1255825 said:
I thought you were more worried about what TO is doing on Christmas Eve?

Anyway... Merriman rushes 99% of the time which is a lot more than Ware.

Any knowledgable person knows Ware is helping the team out by defending 3 areas.

I'm more worried about us winning tomorrow. You might be ok with 2nd place, I'm tired of it.

I said I'm happy with Ware. He's a good player. I'm also aware he's not in the same league as Merriman. It doesn't matter. Ware is a Cowboy and he has my full support. When I'm asked to compare though, I'm not going to all the sudden go blind. I call it as I see it.
 
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