No one Owned the Eagles in the 2005 Regular Season!

[LittleBoyBlue]

A serious poster needs a serious thread.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

He says the road to the NFCE is through a healthy Eagle team?

No, I can agree with PT there, partially anyways.
We have to go to Philly atleast once this season and WE WILL DRIVE RIGHT THROUGH THERE... leaving tire marks all over McChunky's back.... not Reid's. That would constitute running up and over a hill....

 

[TobiasEagle77]

I'm sorry PT but I have to disagree. The cowboys straight up owned us last year in the first game we played. I don't care who what when where, when I watched that game, it was ugly. They did what they wanted. We could not do anything we wanted. Second game, much different, but one of the biggest chokes I've ever witnessed as an Eagles fan by Reid and McNabb. This is coming from a usually very positive Eagles fan. The Skins and Giants, on the other hand, certainly did not own us in '05 and should probably be a little concerned about how close our JV squad kept things against them. The Seahawks... they really owned us. Last season was a tough one, but not that tough compared to the entire decade of the nineties when I grew up as an Eagle fan.

 

[TwentyOne]

Reflecting back to 2005, I can't honestly accept that anyone in the NFCE actually owned the Philadelphia Eagles! Oh, just about everyone beat us up, slap us, spanked us and beat us down pretty bad -- but you don't own us!

I guess you could argue that owning equates to the scroe board, or sweeping us at your house and at the Linc. However, my interpretation of "owning" goes beyond winning numbers on a score board. In my view, owning a team is a mentality; it's an expectation that two healthy teams met on the grid iron, both evenly matched ...mano-e-mano, your "A" team against our "A" team.

Of course I expect resistence about my perspective. But if your best is injured, you have to send in a replacement, but you don't have expectations that they will perform at the exact same level as your best.

Then they'll be those who'll say ..."a win is a win!" "we got the W," or our team was just a better team! And you know what ...it's absolutely correct! I'm not trying to say that you didn't have better teams in 2005, I'm just saying that you didn't play the best that the Philadelphia Eagles have to offer.

But owning us is something that no one did in 2005. The Cowboys, Commanders & Giants got an easy ride on the 2005 NFCE Regular Season. That said, even in 2005, the way through to the NFCE Championship playoffs came through the Eagles; remember that game where if we won the Cowboys would have made the playoffs ...but the Skins tweaked out (even injured, we gave them a game) a victory.

So, I say to you that aside from what the Skins did in the FA, TO, and anyone else ...the road to the 2006 NFCE Championship playoffs is through a
healthy Philadelphia Eagles!

We're your real test to determine just how tough the NFC-East has really become in the last two years.

Don't live in extremes Thalon. Just because no team (in your opinion) owned you in 2005 doesn't mean you're team is a really good one. You are mixing different things here.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I'm going to say this once, regardless of who or what says ...

The term ownership ...a it applies to football team outcomes, refers to a consistency of dominance over a clear period. Hence, winning one game or two games over an opponent does not in itself denote ownership.

Regardless of what anyone says, I'm not convinced that the Eagles were owned by anyone in 2005!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Ok. I will break this down.

I'm going to say this once, regardless of who or what says ...

Once? I would like to see you finally stop. :bang2:

The term ownership ...a it applies to football team outcomes, refers to a consistency of dominance over a clear period. Hence, winning one game or two games over an opponent does not in itself denote ownership.

Dominance over a clear period? Well YOU did put "2005" in your title... so the most they could have played was 2x. We busted you guys up pretty bad both times. First game, we owned you. Second game we ended up owning you. LMAO

Regardless of what anyone says, I'm not convinced that the Eagles were owned by anyone in 2005!

I guess your Pine(as opposed to rose colored) Glasses allow you to believe that. If you believe thats all that matters. I think a fellow Eagle fan has already posted that the EAGLES WERE OWNED by Cowboys in 2005. I am going with that.

Well you did say you were only gonna say it once. So this should be done..... eh, maybe.......

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If anything, our window is closing.

does somebody really have to show you the average age of our units?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

They added DE Darren Howard.

the same Darren Howard who has been injured 2 of the last 3 years and was being phased out by Will Smith?

They are getting Sheppard and Brown back to full health.

they didn't look too good when they were healthy last year

They added one of the best OT (Justice), one of the best OG (Giles), one of the best DT (Brunkley) in the draft.

I'll give them Bunkley, but Oline is a very hard position for rookies to transition to

They improved a bit at WR in Gaffney.

:laugh1:

I think you're trying too hard to make a point

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The point is, people are counting out Howard to be a "nothing." Yet we can count on Ayodele to "produce" in a defense he has never played; in a position he has never played. I find it a bit amusing.

Dallas is putting Akin at Weakside MLB, which is basically the same responsibilities he had in Jax, he's basically being asked to run around and make plays in Dallas' scheme

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

The 2005 season does not mean the Cowboys own the Eagles ...take a harder look ...(BTW, these stats include the 2005 spanking the Cowboys gave to the Eagles!)

2005 - Cowboys 21, Eagles 20

2005 - Cowboys 33, Eagles 10

2004 - Eagles 12, Cowboys 7

2004 - Eagles 49, Cowboys 28

2003 - Eagles 20, Cowboys 10

2003 - Cowboys 23, Eagles 21

2002 - Eagles 27, Cowboys 3

2002 - Eagles 44, Cowboys 13

2001 - Eagles 36, Cowboys 3

2001 - Eagles 40, Cowboys 18

- In 10 meetings, the Eagles defeated the Cowboys 7 times

- In the 10-game rivalry, the Cowboys scored 159 points total; the
Eagles scored 279 points

- In a 5-year period, Cowboys scored an average of 15.9 point against the Eagles; the Eagles averaged 27.9 points against the Cowboys


Weak NFC East or not, the Eagles scored over "40-points" against the Cowboys on 3 separate games out of 10. The Cowboys have yet to score 40 or more points against the Eagles.

Again ...the Cowboys do not own the Eagles!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The 2005 season does not mean the Cowboys own the Eagles ...take a harder look ...(BTW, these stats include the 2005 spanking the Cowboys gave to the Eagles!)

2005 - Cowboys 21, Eagles 20

2005 - Cowboys 33, Eagles 10

2004 - Eagles 12, Cowboys 7

2004 - Eagles 49, Cowboys 28

2003 - Eagles 20, Cowboys 10

2003 - Cowboys 23, Eagles 21

2002 - Eagles 27, Cowboys 3

2002 - Eagles 44, Cowboys 13

2001 - Eagles 36, Cowboys 3

2001 - Eagles 40, Cowboys 18

- In 10 meetings, the Eagles defeated the Cowboys 7 times

- In the 10-game rivalry, the Cowboys scored 159 points total; the
Eagles scored 279 points

- In a 5-year period, Cowboys scored an average of 15.9 point against the Eagles; the Eagles averaged 27.9 points against the Cowboys


Weak NFC East or not, the Eagles scored over "40-points" against the Cowboys on 3 separate games out of 10. The Cowboys have yet to score 40 or more points against the Eagles.

Again ...the Cowboys do not own the Eagles!

The NFC East does not go thru Philly any longer and these stats are meaningless. On paper, the Giants are the best team. All teams are better and no one team in the East is going to dominate the division IMO. The Eagles will be lucky to have a wild card birth this year. The same can be said for the Cowboys, the Skinz or the GMen IMO. Not saying you won't win the division but I am definatly saying that the days of the Eagles being the Class of the division are over.

Posting those scores and stats are like me posting stats from 90 to 96 of the Cowboys - Eagles games. I don't think I have to tell you what those would reflect. Having said that, to what end? Doesn't mean a thing in the hear and now.

The simple fact of the matter is that the window is closing IMO. I do believe that you still have an opportunity to win a championship but the odds of this have been greatly reduced IMO. The Eagles can no longer look past there own division and into the playoffs. Like the rest of the division, they will be in a dog fight and there may only be one winner for a playoff spot. I can see us all beating up on each other. The second place team in our division might end up being one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the Conference but it may not matter. They may not get in.

That, to me, is the reality of the situation.

 

[peplaw06]

The 2005 season does not mean the Cowboys own the Eagles ...take a harder look ...(BTW, these stats include the 2005 spanking the Cowboys gave to the Eagles!)

2005 - Cowboys 21, Eagles 20

2005 - Cowboys 33, Eagles 10

2004 - Eagles 12, Cowboys 7

2004 - Eagles 49, Cowboys 28

2003 - Eagles 20, Cowboys 10

2003 - Cowboys 23, Eagles 21

2002 - Eagles 27, Cowboys 3

2002 - Eagles 44, Cowboys 13

2001 - Eagles 36, Cowboys 3

2001 - Eagles 40, Cowboys 18

- In 10 meetings, the Eagles defeated the Cowboys 7 times

- In the 10-game rivalry, the Cowboys scored 159 points total; the
Eagles scored 279 points

- In a 5-year period, Cowboys scored an average of 15.9 point against the Eagles; the Eagles averaged 27.9 points against the Cowboys


Weak NFC East or not, the Eagles scored over "40-points" against the Cowboys on 3 separate games out of 10. The Cowboys have yet to score 40 or more points against the Eagles.

Again ...the Cowboys do not own the Eagles!

If you're strictly talking about the "2005 Regular Season," which happens to be EXACTLY what your title says, then why bother posting all this stuff?? Apparently the "2005 regular season" in Philly includes 2004 and 2003 and 2002, etc.

In the "regular season in 2005," I believe the Eagles were 0-6 in the East... indicating not only did "somebody" own the Eagles, EVERYBODY did. I agree, no one "owns" (present tense) the Eagles (unless we're talking about Lombardis:laugh1. But last year everyone did.

 

[Stash]

This post is nonsense!

Numbers from 2003 and 2004 are thrown out there to somehow validate the indefensible fact that the Eagles were owned in 2005?!?!?!?

Ridiculous!

If you're going to make a statement, at least try to back it up!

Or better yet, don't start an argument you can't possibly win!