CFZ No one wants to debate Pollards new role?

[blueblood70]

It's been a great start to the season so don't get me wrong but being a huge Ezekiel Elliott fan and getting tired of all the negativity that went towards his allegedly being washed you know how much mileage that dude has on his legs from the back-to-back 1800 yard seasons in college his 1600 yard top five rookie campaign and all the carries he got here and then he's being criticized for having 3.8 yards per carry being the number one back.....

I like Tony Pollard but let's go back and see what his last six games looks like and I can tell you this right now without even going with a calculator he finished the season last year, the last five games, he got injured twice, 3.8 yards per carry, no touchdowns, no explosive plays, 51 yards per game...hmmm​

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He's somehow being applauded for his 25 carries 75-yard output against The Jets, who have yes a very good defense our offensive lines a little banged up but when did Ezekiel Elliott ever get this type of positivity and being pat on the back for something like that??​

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I've been saying this all along Tony Pollard is not a true number one running back when he has to take carries on 1st and 2nd down and he's the new target for the defense, this was gonna happen and this fact is his legs are not overused, he is not Ezekiel Elliott he never has been he never will be as far as what he did in college and what Elliott did for our team you know 8200 rushing yards a ton of touchdowns, great receiving stats, you know he could be compared to some of the greats..​

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So in my opinion we should discuss this and what I think needs to happen is the coaches should limit Tony Pollard to under 18 yards of carry every game now, I know he held up but don't you want Tony Pollard to be Tony Pollard come playoff time?​

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I think the plan should be to use him less,​

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use Rico dowdle, use deuce Vaughn, use the true running back by committee to keep Tony pollard's legs fresher for the bigger game's, bigger moments, and for sure the playoffs.​

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I would like his explosiveness back and we knew this was going to happen the man should not be carrying the ball more than 15 to 18 yards a game and if he's got to run all these dirty plays and these short yardage plays, which by the way some of the red zone issues are because of the running back situation here and we miss Elliot a little bit that I think that coaches are making a mistake running this dude 25 * a game... I mean this is exactly what we thought Tony Pollard was he literally has to have one of those big long runs in order to have that lofty 5 yards per carry average everybody was bragging about well where did that go? So now you're telling me that Tony Pollard should be applauded for looking like a washed up Ezekiel Elliott?​

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Again this is not a knock on Tony Pollard,​

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I was just sitting here reading one of these Facebook stories about how Tony powers our new bell cow back he should be applauded for his efforts for 25 carries but they don't mention 3 yards per carry is a pretty weak showing for a starting running back and yet if this was Elliot they'd be talking about how he needs to be benched and cut and he's making too much money does anybody remember that Tony powers making $10 million???​

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So I think in my opinion the coaches are making a mistake here....​

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I know somebody's going to say I shouldn't be negative or winning the games blah blah blah but I'm thinking ahead I'd like Tony Pollard to get back to the way he was if he needs to get less carries then that's what we should do...​

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[JohnBoy]

coaches should limit Tony Pollard to under 18 yards of carry every game

Surely you mean 18 carries per game, not 18 yards per game?

 

[Streifenkarl]

Yaaawn. Zeke's gone and that's good. Won't judge Pollard before half of the season has been played.

 

[DogFace]

You shouldn’t be negative.

 

[removed_20241105]

It's been a great start to the season so don't get me wrong but being a huge Ezekiel Elliott fan and getting tired of all the negativity that went towards his allegedly being washed you know how much mileage that dude has on his legs from the back-to-back 1800 yard seasons in college his 1600 yard top five rookie campaign and all the carries he got here and then he's being criticized for having 3.8 yards per carry being the number one back.....

I like Tony Pollard but let's go back and see what his last six games looks like and I can tell you this right now without even going with a calculator he finished the season last year, the last five games, he got injured twice, 3.8 yards per carry, no touchdowns, no explosive plays, 51 yards per game...hmmm​

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He's somehow being applauded for his 25 carries 75-yard output against The Jets, who have yes a very good defense our offensive lines a little banged up but when did Ezekiel Elliott ever get this type of positivity and being pat on the back for something like that??​

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I've been saying this all along Tony Pollard is not a true number one running back when he has to take carries on 1st and 2nd down and he's the new target for the defense, this was gonna happen and this fact is his legs are not overused, he is not Ezekiel Elliott he never has been he never will be as far as what he did in college and what Elliott did for our team you know 8200 rushing yards a ton of touchdowns, great receiving stats, you know he could be compared to some of the greats..​

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So in my opinion we should discuss this and what I think needs to happen is the coaches should limit Tony Pollard to under 18 yards of carry every game now, I know he held up but don't you want Tony Pollard to be Tony Pollard come playoff time?​

​

I think the plan should be to use him less,​

​

use Rico dowdle, use deuce Vaughn, use the true running back by committee to keep Tony pollard's legs fresher for the bigger game's, bigger moments, and for sure the playoffs.​

​

I would like his explosiveness back and we knew this was going to happen the man should not be carrying the ball more than 15 to 18 yards a game and if he's got to run all these dirty plays and these short yardage plays, which by the way some of the red zone issues are because of the running back situation here and we miss Elliot a little bit that I think that coaches are making a mistake running this dude 25 * a game... I mean this is exactly what we thought Tony Pollard was he literally has to have one of those big long runs in order to have that lofty 5 yards per carry average everybody was bragging about well where did that go? So now you're telling me that Tony Pollard should be applauded for looking like a washed up Ezekiel Elliott?​

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Again this is not a knock on Tony Pollard,​

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I was just sitting here reading one of these Facebook stories about how Tony powers our new bell cow back he should be applauded for his efforts for 25 carries but they don't mention 3 yards per carry is a pretty weak showing for a starting running back and yet if this was Elliot they'd be talking about how he needs to be benched and cut and he's making too much money does anybody remember that Tony powers making $10 million???​

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So I think in my opinion the coaches are making a mistake here....​

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I know somebody's going to say I shouldn't be negative or winning the games blah blah blah but I'm thinking ahead I'd like Tony Pollard to get back to the way he was if he needs to get less carries then that's what we should do...​

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I think it’s a thoughtful post. I’m not sure the offense is in full swing at this time and I personally will be more critical of his production in another 2-3 games. I do think his carry count is too high. The next game could easily put a huge infusion of stats on the books that balances out this start.

 

[Denim Chicken]

While I don't disagree about the number of carries bc I find our other backs interesting; I have a hard time with this notion that somehow more carries is guaranteed to drain his explosiveness.

We have seen many explosive backs in the past be bell cows as well, so I don't understand why its different for Pollard.

He had 5.0 YPC against the Giants who have a very good front. While not as efficient against the Jets, he still had a few explosive runs and looked generally ok against one of the best fronts he'll face.

I'm not worried about wearing him out in the long run bc he likely will not be here next season. He has comparatively little trad on the tires.

 

[nightrain]

The Cowboys will not deploy a bell cow back type offense, so Pollard will be sharing totes as seen through two games. Zeke had a few very good years and was a solid performer throughout his time in Dallas, but it was tine to move on. It's easy to see the difference in explosiveness between Zeke and Pollard.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

That many touches in a game like that seemed really stupid, especially since the ground game wasn't really effective anyway.

 

[acr731]

I disliked Zeke because of his greed. His production was average at best and didn't live up to his contract demands

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I'm not sure anyone thought he was a true #1 RB. I think most of us agreed we needed at least another quality RB to pair with him. Either way, I think he will be fine......give him some time.

 

[zrinkill]

I agree with the OP

 

[MyFairLady]

He needs to start popping some big plays. I hope he does. If not he can walk at the end of the year and we can bring in some fresh legs.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I like tony. I had/have concerns about injury and "new role".
At first i thought he had a pretty blase jets game. When i reviewed the stats....not terrible.
With tony.....we're gonna have to live with several 2-3 yard plays and hope we capitalize on his 2-3 explosive ones....as in keep the drive alive and score. We cant waste them.

 

[baltcowboy]

Actually Pollard has been outstanding so far. Who would have thought Pollard could hold up against a defense like the Jets. He played like early career Zeke and kept the Jets honest. 25 carries against that defense.

 

[stiletto]

Absolutely love the new running back looks. So much better than the cement shoed Zeke and his 2.222 yards per carry. Looks like he's doing the same thing in NE. Was 100% beyond time to move on.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

I'm pretty sure right now he's on pace for 1200 yards rushing, another 400 receiving, and 17 TDs. That would place his production firmly in the top 5 in the league. Pollard is not a problem.

As far as the # of carries in a game, I would agree that he is getting a few too many touches if we expect him to remain healthy all season. I would argue most of that has to do with game flow though. Dallas is absolutely destroying their opponents and has had to run ALOT in the second half of games to kill clock. If a game gets out of reach for the opponent, I would like to see Mike get Dowdle in there sooner and save TP's legs.

 

[blueblood70]

Surely you mean 18 carries per game, not 18 yards per game?

sorry it was early you know what i meant...

 

[blueblood70]

You shouldn’t be negative.

And yet I said what I said it's all facts it's all honest if you want to debate it let's do it if not don't bother replying....

 

[Captain-Crash]

I disliked Zeke because of his greed. His production was average at best and didn't live up to his contract demands

Heck, it was hard for him to run carrying that large melon on his shoulders. I think Bill tried to lighten him up by making him get his hair and beard cut.

 

[John813]

Cowboys wanted to eat clock and play conservative. Another lopsided game where they didn't have to dig deep into the playbook.

Maybe Rico could of had more carries or even Deuce, but it's still early in the season and Pollard is their most experienced back. Could just be rolling with seniority or they saw something from Rico they didn't like(just a random though).

I doubt the Cowboys care if they overuse Pollard this year as I expect them to lowball him/let him walk next year.
But in the games that are closer/not just wanting to eat clock, I think Pollard will get less carries.