No player at 22 or 28 is going to start for

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Getting mad at me wont make the truth go away. every offseason i hear this crap about how we are stacked and dont need anything.and it's been the same results for a decade now. no playoff win. go crawl back under your rock loser.

kumaya, cowboyszone, kumbaya....

 

[mmillman]

A WR chosen in the 1st round has a good chance to start.

A WR at #22 or #28 has very little chance of starting that is my point. Calvin Johnson who would be the best WR in this draft hands down did very little even when healthy. WR's don't usually do much until their second or third year. Bowe, who Dallas passed on, was the exception to the rule. DeSean Jackson might be there, but he has questions and that is why he might be there. Jackson wouldn't start but he would contribute as a third or fourth WR and on special teams.

CB? No corner is going to start on this team from those spots. They wont be the nickel corner either if Dallas trades for Pacman.

RB? The only real first round talent, according to most scouts, that might be there is Stewart and he would miss most if not all of training camp.

I never said the picks won't contribute. What I was saying is that the talent, according to some scouts, goes 21 deep in what they think are legitimate first round picks. I didn't make that number up because Dallas picks at 22. I am also aware that the odds say that one or more of those will be available at 22. 28?

The point I was trying to make is Dallas should move to get an impact player. Move up from 22 and get Mendnehall, if not McFadden. Move up to ge McLovin. Trade 28 for Roy Williams. Trade 28 for someones #2 and their first next year and you get a player that is tiered close to #28, you pay him a lot less and maybe next years Cleveland or Buffalo really does tank.

 

[mmillman]

Talk about overanalyzing...........c'mon.

Every team in the league puts the players in tiers before the draft. So I wouldn't say it is overanalyzing. A tier means that if you have a similiarly graded player but can get him much cheaper and add something else in the second round you have to consider it.

Dallas is sitting on the clock at 28 after taking Talib at 22 and Atlanta is in love with Brohm. There is no player you really love and you get Atlanta's first next year and swap seconds as an example.

The articles that I have read say this is a good draft with 21 legitimate first round picks. Odds are that one or more will be there at 22. The difference between the players available at #28 and the first third of the second round are not that much.

 

[Carlito]

I don't see how anyone would take our #28 this year for a 1st next year and add a 2nd round pick???

 

[Deep_Freeze]

A WR at #22 or #28 has very little chance of starting that is my point. Calvin Johnson who would be the best WR in this draft hands down did very little even when healthy. WR's don't usually do much until their second or third year. Bowe, who Dallas passed on, was the exception to the rule. DeSean Jackson might be there, but he has questions and that is why he might be there. Jackson wouldn't start but he would contribute as a third or fourth WR and on special teams.

CB? No corner is going to start on this team from those spots. They wont be the nickel corner either if Dallas trades for Pacman.

RB? The only real first round talent, according to most scouts, that might be there is Stewart and he would miss most if not all of training camp.

I never said the picks won't contribute. What I was saying is that the talent, according to some scouts, goes 21 deep in what they think are legitimate first round picks. I didn't make that number up because Dallas picks at 22. I am also aware that the odds say that one or more of those will be available at 22. 28?

The point I was trying to make is Dallas should move to get an impact player. Move up from 22 and get Mendnehall, if not McFadden. Move up to ge McLovin. Trade 28 for Roy Williams. Trade 28 for someones #2 and their first next year and you get a player that is tiered close to #28, you pay him a lot less and maybe next years Cleveland or Buffalo really does tank.

I think what Michael was saying is that WR with our present picks has the best chance on this team to be starting at some point, assuming we get Pacman, and I agree with that theory. With all you said in this post, you helped prove his point.

Now moving up for an impact player is a whole different subject. I wouldn't have a problem moving up at all for a starting material player at one of those 3 spots, and I think its a good theory.

 

[zrinkill]

If we are never going to use 2 first round picks ...... why do we keep trying to get 2 first round picks?

 

[JonJon]

If we are never going to use 2 first round picks ...... why do we keep trying to get 2 first round picks?

LOL, this man speaketh the truth!

 

[Deep_Freeze]

If we are never going to use 2 first round picks ...... why do we keep trying to get 2 first round picks?

For addition leverage in a particular draft. Whenever the opportunity presents itself that gives us the right timing and value for the team, thats when you use it.

 

[cowboyrock]

If we are never going to use 2 first round picks ...... why do we keep trying to get 2 first round picks?

Bingo! right on the money. some of these cowboys fans are just unreal.

 

[Cowboys2008]

It's not about future drafts. The player Jerry wants is this year. This is the year, aka "the future draft", we've been waiting for. How people still can't see this, monetary risk and all regardless, is beyond me. DMAC is he.

 

[David276]

are you kidding man? ray rice the great will start over barber. cmon dude.

 

[Doomsday]

You may not be satisfied with him as a #2 but about 75% of the teams in the NFL would be.

I do agree we need to upgrade but Crayton can be the #2 guy and we wont miss a beat.

I've never seen a guy on our team that gets more respect from other teams fans than our own fans like this guy.

Crayton proved last year when TO was out that he is a non factor, we need to add another play maker at WR.

 

[ctrous25]

This is a ridiculous thread, and I can see that everyone seems to agree. Absolutely ********.

Boy little harsh arent we?:laugh2:

 

[Hostile]

If we are never going to use 2 first round picks ...... why do we keep trying to get 2 first round picks?

Good question. This is the year I can see us using them for one very salient reason...we're not far from being the team to beat. We may not be there yet, a strong Draft gets us there.

 

[Rockytop6]

Dallas this year. My opinion is take the best player available at 22 and see if you can trade out of 28 and possibly get somebody's #1 next year along with a #2 this year. The talent drops off around 21 and stays strong through the middle of round 2.

If that can't happen I would trade to get an impact player this year either through the draft or trade.

Dallas has a small window and a lot of talent. They must take advantage of that now.

Before someone jumps all over me, I am not saying mortgage the future but the time to add the pieces is now.

Why do people think Dallas has a small window? We have a large core of young players. TO is 35 and will have to be replaced probably in the next 2-3 years. We need to draft or trade for a # 1 type wr. TNew' contract is up after 2008 and at age 30 we have to draft a top CB to groom. Henry will need to be replaced within the next 2 years. We can fill all 3 of those needs in this year's draft, possibly on the first day. We need another RB and that position could be filled early on the 2nd day.

I don't see a SMALL window, I see a large window where Dallas should be in the thick of things for the next several years. IF they draft wisely. There are a few more issues but with the large core of young players on the team, these issues can be met/tweaked each year as necessary from the draft.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Crayton proved last year when TO was out that he is a non factor, we need to add another play maker at WR.

Go watch the last 4 minutes of the Buffalo game again.

Or if you are into stats: 50 - 697 - 7

Not bad for the 4th option behind TO, Witten and MBIII.

I'm not saying he was a playmaker, I'm just saying he was more than a non-factor.