No QB Has Ever Started His Career with Four 90.0 Seasons
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Anadrol;3161120 said:
I was around before SB was even a game. Teams win post season games not QB's alone. You put Troy behind a line who could not protect him and he would not have seen a ring. Go back and watch the games Troy had a good clean pocket to step up and make the throws. I think Troy was great he had all the things you look for in a QB but to win a championship took alot of people stepping up and getting the job done.
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lonestar6;3160678 said:
QB Ratings is the #1, most reliable, most important stat in all of football--and its a TEAM stat too.
1. Look at the top of the qb ratings and inevitably you see the teams with super bowl possibilities. Currently, Brees and Favre are 1-2---with Manning #5. There are your top three teams. That's a VERY reliable stat. Rivers and Rodgers are 4 and 5 --both currently projecting as playoff teams.
2. It's inflation shows how the game is tilting even more in favor of the quarterback and the passing game. It's becoming EVEN MORE important because teams are passing more and more.
3. Romo has been remarkably consistent in staying productive, despite two petulant and unreliable receivers.
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That's true, but he was saying that, since QB rating in general is higher than it ever was, Romo's 4 straight 90.0 seasons lose their value compared to previous eras.T-RO;3162293 said:
The most obvious response to that is, Okay somebody was bound to be the first QB to have 4 such seasons to start his career--but why Romo?
Another way to respond is to take the raw passer rating out of the equation and only look at how Romo stacks up against his peers, then compare that to how all QB's have ever stacked up against theirs.
And when you do that, Romo ends up in a group of Hall of Famers.
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Sarge;3159777 said:
I think we may actually have that player already in Ogletree.
It is a shame Garrett is so slow to get players into the gameplan. He waited too long for Austin - if RW doesn't get injured I bet Austin/Romo never gain confidence in each other and Austin never emerges.
Garrett - give Ogletree a chance. He seems to have that something extra. His quickness, hands, feet, body control - it is all there. All he needs is some experience and confidence. Let the boy play!
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RainMan;3162803 said:
This fanbase is very odd in that there are certain players they seem to love to hate no matter how good the player is.
Some Cowboys players like that right now:
Romo
TNew
Flo
Crayton
Hamlin
Scandrick
Then there are other players that are just constantly defended no matter how bad they play:
RW
Barber
Columbo
Bigg Davis
Brookings
Sensabaugh
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Guys, it's easy to watch the Cowboys play almost anyone and realize that the Cowboy's QB play is generally stronger than the vast majority of other teams int he league. I do not, and cannot refute that.
But there are several reasons why Tony Romo will always be criticized more than most players.
1. He has no playoff wins yet and he personally had the ball in his hands with a chance to win at the end of both of the post season games he's played in, and he failed to make the play both times. Yes, the game is 60 minutes and there were hundreds of chances for other Cowboys to win the game before the end, and Romo didn't lose the games himself, but he didn't win the games himself either, and in both cases, he could have.
2. He's not known for his preparation. In fact, he's known for poor preparation. When people don't go the extra mile, they don't get the benefit of the doubt in other aspects of life. If Romo were a film junkie and a weight room rat, he would lift a ton of the criticism off his shoulders immediately. But that's not his style.
3. He's too much of a celebrity off the field, and for whatever reason, fans, the media, and critics in general don't like football players to be like that. We like football players to be hard nosed, blue collar machines that don't bother themselves with the stuff that actors and musicians do off the field for fun. Whenever your face appears from Paparazzi photos in the same magazines with Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, and folks like, you're asking for criticism.
4. He seems to be underachieving at this point. I know that sounds crazy because he came from nowhere to be a Pro Bowl QB and is one of the few true undrafted steals, but at this point, we all know he's really good, and there's no excuse for him to not have won a playoff game with the '07 Cowboys, which was one of the best NFL rosters we've seen anywhere in a long time.
5. Despite his high QB ratings, his good regular season W/L record, and his above average QB play, he has created a bad stigma that seems to be attached to him, and that is a guy that causes a game changing turnover at some point in the game. Win, lose, or tie, I EXPECT Romo to turn the ball over at a terrible time at least once in every game. Just like I expect Vince Young to break off at least one big run, and I expect Kurt Warner to fumble a time or two, I expect Romo to create a bad turnover at some point.
6. He plays for the Cowboys, and like the Yankees, Notre Dame football, Duke basketball, and Tiger Woods, the Cowboys are in the news more than their peers, so they are criticized more than their peers. Expectations are high, and the Coyboys are very polarizing- probably the most polarizing team in the NFL. The only team even close is the Patriots, but they're more JUST hated rather than half loved and half hated. Anyway, when you're a QB for the Cowboys and you're controversial and newsworthy and erratic like Romo, you don't have much room for error.
But there are several reasons why Tony Romo will always be criticized more than most players.
1. He has no playoff wins yet and he personally had the ball in his hands with a chance to win at the end of both of the post season games he's played in, and he failed to make the play both times. Yes, the game is 60 minutes and there were hundreds of chances for other Cowboys to win the game before the end, and Romo didn't lose the games himself, but he didn't win the games himself either, and in both cases, he could have.
2. He's not known for his preparation. In fact, he's known for poor preparation. When people don't go the extra mile, they don't get the benefit of the doubt in other aspects of life. If Romo were a film junkie and a weight room rat, he would lift a ton of the criticism off his shoulders immediately. But that's not his style.
3. He's too much of a celebrity off the field, and for whatever reason, fans, the media, and critics in general don't like football players to be like that. We like football players to be hard nosed, blue collar machines that don't bother themselves with the stuff that actors and musicians do off the field for fun. Whenever your face appears from Paparazzi photos in the same magazines with Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, and folks like, you're asking for criticism.
4. He seems to be underachieving at this point. I know that sounds crazy because he came from nowhere to be a Pro Bowl QB and is one of the few true undrafted steals, but at this point, we all know he's really good, and there's no excuse for him to not have won a playoff game with the '07 Cowboys, which was one of the best NFL rosters we've seen anywhere in a long time.
5. Despite his high QB ratings, his good regular season W/L record, and his above average QB play, he has created a bad stigma that seems to be attached to him, and that is a guy that causes a game changing turnover at some point in the game. Win, lose, or tie, I EXPECT Romo to turn the ball over at a terrible time at least once in every game. Just like I expect Vince Young to break off at least one big run, and I expect Kurt Warner to fumble a time or two, I expect Romo to create a bad turnover at some point.
6. He plays for the Cowboys, and like the Yankees, Notre Dame football, Duke basketball, and Tiger Woods, the Cowboys are in the news more than their peers, so they are criticized more than their peers. Expectations are high, and the Coyboys are very polarizing- probably the most polarizing team in the NFL. The only team even close is the Patriots, but they're more JUST hated rather than half loved and half hated. Anyway, when you're a QB for the Cowboys and you're controversial and newsworthy and erratic like Romo, you don't have much room for error.
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You need to subtract about 15-20 points from todays QB ratings to compare more honestly with the QBs prior to 1978. Starting in 78 the league seriously began to make the pass prevalent and King. More restrictions on DBs, making it tougher to sack the QB, now protecting the QB to a ridiculous degree, it all adds up. Put Staubach in his prime NOW and he would Own Brady and Peyton Manning. Same with Montana and Anderson (who probably was the most accurate passer I have ever watched- and he was no dink and dunk QB).
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Anadrol;3166895 said:
You obviously don't know what you are talking about as this is pure BS.
