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[ologan]

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[Kevinicus]

Sacks don't mean everything. I actually thought the Cowboys defense did a great job getting pressure on Stafford on the way to a 27-3 lead. Victor Butler had his best game of the season, he was causing havoc out there including drawing a holding flag and forcing Stafford to scramble and throw the ball away.

The defense did the best they could despite getting put into bad positions by the offense's turnovers and the momentum they were giving away to Detroit. In the 4th quarter, they got Detroit to punt but the Cowboys offense responded with a 3 and out. Then they bended but didn't break by holding Detroit to a long FG. 30-27 and 4 minutes left, plenty of time for the Cowboys offense to run some time off the clock and seal the deal right? Nope, Romo throws another interception.

If that's the best they can do, then the Cowboys might as well start playing for 2012 because they won't go anywhere this year. They had ONE decent stop after the 2 interceptions. After that they gave up a long QUICK TD drive, a short drive that allowed a FG (and they were saved big time by unnecessary penalties on this drive), and another somewhat short (but not that short) TD drive. Overall, 151 yards and 17 pts on 4 possessions.

 

[Kevinicus]

Gotta agree with ABQ here, this game cannot be blamed on the defense. Romo's turnovers at crucial moments were huge and it costs us the game.

If the defense plays well in the 4th quarter, the Cowboys win the game. It took a COMBINATION of Romo throwing picks, and the defense collapsing to lose. Neither by itself would have meant much.

 

[CCBoy]

That's what I've been saying, everyone is on Romo, and rightfully so, but where was that timely sack from Ratliffe or Ware, the strip from Spencer? A fumble recovery or interception to turn the tide? That's right there isn't one!

That's the problem with this team, everything is on the QB. If he plays well, and we win, great, but if Tony makes mistakes like he did Sunday, no one is there to make a play to turn things around. We have no Ed Reed on this team.

Some of that was specific game flow. Such as the play where Victor Butler went for a sack, grabbing Matthew Stafford's shoulder pads as he ducked out of the take down. To only be fleeing from DeMarcus Ware, who tackles him for what should have been the killer sack, only to have him shuttle pass to a long gainer to Jahvid Best. Sometimes, that is just the way the game plays out.

But this game in particular, and with a potent passing game by Detroit, I think that Rex Ryan was guarding back towards the protections of this secondary.

 

[CCBoy]

Gotta agree with ABQ here, this game cannot be blamed on the defense. Romo's turnovers at crucial moments were huge and it costs us the game.

One could conceivably throw in a failed one yard and fourth attempt at the goal line. As well as Dez Bryant not being able to stay in bounds following the bobble on another important and drive ending long pass completion. There are a few 'other' things that could have changed the actual course of path traveled into the ending gun.


By chance, has anyone else noted that Anthony Spencer's production has improved with the rotation of DeMarcus Ware around the defensive line? Also, Sean Lee looks like a 'DEVIL DOG' around the line of scrimmage.

 

[IrishAnto]

Huh? The OP said that the Cowboys' defense never steps up and makes big plays, and so it's always all on Romo. It was an absurd statement. The defense has made many huge plays this season, plays which were integral to winning or putting us in a position to win. Even in this game, we had a big INT from Sensy that helped build a 24-point lead.

Oh, and yes, the defense is "absolved" from getting a game-ending strip-sack this week - that kind of play is not going to happen every week, for any team.

I find it amazing that you can absolve the defense because of what they did in last week’s game but Romo doesn’t get the same consideration for what he did in the previous two games.

You say the defense has made many huge plays this season which were integral to us winning.

Has Romo not done the same?

Sure it’s not going to happen in every game, but are you saying it couldn’t happen two games in a row?

Calvin Johnson the Lions superstar receiver has managed two touchdowns in four consecutive games but our hard done by defense can only manage doing their job every second game or so?

Where was our superstar DeMarcus Ware (or for that matter any other Dallas Defender)?

The Cowboy’s defense had an INT by Sensy which Romo and the offense turned into seven points.

The Loins defense stopped the Cowboys from scoring on our second drive even though we were on their one yard line, and then got three INTs, two of which were returned for touchdowns.

That’s a defense playing winning football.

 

[IrishAnto]

I'd say the defense won the game just a week ago against the Skins.

Again Romo had no part in that or against the 49'ers????

 

[CCBoy]

Again Romo had no part in that or against the 49'ers????

Warning: C Lab is a difficult sell after making a statement.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Our defense would have gotten plenty of sacks if . . . if they were talented.

Not even Ware got a sack????

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Again Romo had no part in that or against the 49'ers????

I never said he had "no part". But when your offense can't score a single TD in a game and your defense doesn't allow a single TD despite being put in bad situations, I give more credit to the defense.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I find it amazing that you can absolve the defense because of what they did in last week’s game but Romo doesn’t get the same consideration for what he did in the previous two games.

You say the defense has made many huge plays this season which were integral to us winning.

Has Romo not done the same?

Of course he has. I'm a big Romo fan. But the defense played pretty well this game, and they did generate an important turnover, so blaming them for the loss seems silly. We lost this game because of two pick-sixes and because Megatron is ridiculous, not because the defense failed to "step up". Similarly, the game was close because the offense played very well except for a few awful plays, and because the defense played a very solid game.

Sure it’s not going to happen in every game, but are you saying it couldn’t happen two games in a row?

Wow - I have no idea how you could interpret what I said that way. Things like final-drive strip-sacks that preserve victories are to be celebrated, not expected.

The Loins defense stopped the Cowboys from scoring on our second drive even though we were on their one yard line, and then got three INTs, two of which were returned for touchdowns.

That’s a defense playing winning football.

Seriously? You're focusing on the only drive in the first half that they stopped us, after we drove all the way down the field on them? Remember, after they stopped us, our defense forced them to punt and then our offense drove down the field, again, and scored a TD.

"My baseball team won last night when Joe Schlabotnik hit a grand slam in the 9th inning. They lost 12-11 today, and Joe didn't hit a grand slam in the 9th inning. Clearly our pitchers are not to blame for the loss - it's all Joe's fault!"

 

[tyke1doe]

Our defense would have gotten plenty of sacks if . . . if they were talented.

Not even Ware got a sack????

Sssshhhh! You are not allowed to criticize DeMarcus Ware.

 

[burmafrd]

Sssshhhh! You are not allowed to criticize DeMarcus Ware.

no you are not.


But he clearly did not have his best game.

 

[Kevinicus]

Of course he has. I'm a big Romo fan. But the defense played pretty well this game, and they did generate an important turnover, so blaming them for the loss seems silly. We lost this game because of two pick-sixes and because Megatron is ridiculous, not because the defense failed to "step up". Similarly, the game was close because the offense played very well except for a few awful plays, and because the defense played a very solid game.Wow - I have no idea how you could interpret what I said that way. Things like final-drive strip-sacks that preserve victories are to be celebrated, not expected.Seriously? You're focusing on the only drive in the first half that they stopped us, after we drove all the way down the field on them? Remember, after they stopped us, our defense forced them to punt and then our offense drove down the field, again, and scored a TD.

"My baseball team won last night when Joe Schlabotnik hit a grand slam in the 9th inning. They lost 12-11 today, and Joe didn't hit a grand slam in the 9th inning. Clearly our pitchers are not to blame for the loss - it's all Joe's fault!"

They played pretty well THE FIRST HALF. Then they sucked (minus the very first series in the 3rd Qtr. and 2nd series in the 4th)

Romo played pretty well THE FIRST HALF. Then he sucked (minus the first and 4th series in the 3rd Qtr.)

Looks pretty similar to me.

 

[IrishAnto]

Of course he has. I'm a big Romo fan. But the defense played pretty well this game, and they did generate an important turnover, so blaming them for the loss seems silly. We lost this game because of two pick-sixes and because Megatron is ridiculous, not because the defense failed to "step up". Similarly, the game was close because the offense played very well except for a few awful plays, and because the defense played a very solid game.Wow - I have no idea how you could interpret what I said that way. Things like final-drive strip-sacks that preserve victories are to be celebrated, not expected.Seriously? You're focusing on the only drive in the first half that they stopped us, after we drove all the way down the field on them? Remember, after they stopped us, our defense forced them to punt and then our offense drove down the field, again, and scored a TD.

"My baseball team won last night when Joe Schlabotnik hit a grand slam in the 9th inning. They lost 12-11 today, and Joe didn't hit a grand slam in the 9th inning. Clearly our pitchers are not to blame for the loss - it's all Joe's fault!"

First of all I’m not completely blaming them for the loss in fact I give Romo the majority of the blame.

However if the Dallas cowboys TEAM wants to win a Superbowl then there will be games where either the offense, defense or special teams will need to step up and make a play.

Last Sunday was one of those days and neither the defense nor special teams did so when the team needed one most.

And for our defense this happens a bit too much especially considering the resources that have been poured into it.

I point out Detroit’s first stop because it stopped us getting any points which helped them win the game. It all counts wither the play is made in the first or last quarter.

Remember their defense made four big plays to our one.

You can expect as much or a little as you want, but the bottom line is if you don’t make enough plays then you lose and as Dallas’s record shown over these last 15 years we haven’t made nearly enough and that applies to all parts of the team.

 

[IrishAnto]

They played pretty well THE FIRST HALF. Then they sucked (minus the very first series in the 3rd Qtr. and 2nd series in the 4th)

Romo played pretty well THE FIRST HALF. Then he sucked (minus the first and 4th series in the 3rd Qtr.)

Looks pretty similar to me.

Put very concisely.

 

[IrishAnto]

I never said he had "no part". But when your offense can't score a single TD in a game and your defense doesn't allow a single TD despite being put in bad situations, I give more credit to the defense.

Giving more credit or not to the defense for last week’s game is not the point here.

The offense didn’t score any touchdowns against the Skins, but they did score enough points in conjunction with the play of the defense and special teams to win the game.

This week they clearly did not, however nearly everyone wants to put blame totally on Romo for the loss while giving the other two phases of the game a pass, based as much on what they’ve done in past games as in this one.

 

[burmafrd]

In the 4th qtr when it really counted the Defense did NOT step up. They did not get it done when it was needed. MOST of the blame rests on Romo and Garrett; but some has to be borne by the D.

 

[CCBoy]

In the 4th qtr when it really counted the Defense did NOT step up. They did not get it done when it was needed. MOST of the blame rests on Romo and Garrett; but some has to be borne by the D.

When the generators go out at dusk, it's hard to get them right back up for night firings.

 

[burmafrd]

When the generators go out at dusk, it's hard to get them right back up for night firings.

not if you keep them well lubricated.