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CooterBrown said:
Interesting stat CBS showed yesterday. Since 1993, only Brett Favre had more game winning 4th quarter drives than Bledsoe. And that was before Bledsoe led the team on the last drive. Now he is tied with Favre with 31 fourth quarter comebacks since 1993.
Who'd uh thunk it? No respect.

Cooter, that's the stat that really got me as well. Bledsoe has never been billed as a comeback guy. In fact, when we signed him, Babe Laufenberg did a piece on CBS 11 how the Cowboys under Parcells and Bledsoe are not good at coming from behind.

And now he's tied for the most game-winning drives of any player over the last decade. Not a world-beating stat, but not a horrible thing to hang one's hat on, either.

I've never really thought Bledsoe got enough respect, but like many quarterbacks, he simply needs to win a title to get the monkey off his back.

But being a 40,000-yard quarterback and having won two AFC Championship games is nothing to sneeze at. I think his greatest accomplishment that goes forgotten is coming off the bench and leading New England to the Super Bowl in that AFC Championship Game against Pittsburgh in 2001. It's as if that day never took place, because you never hear anyone talk about it.
 

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Dale said:
Cooter, that's the stat that really got me as well. Bledsoe has never been billed as a comeback guy. In fact, when we signed him, Babe Laufenberg did a piece on CBS 11 how the Cowboys under Parcells and Bledsoe are not good at coming from behind.

And now he's tied for the most game-winning drives of any player over the last decade. Not a world-beating stat, but not a horrible thing to hang one's hat on, either.

I've never really thought Bledsoe got enough respect, but like many quarterbacks, he simply needs to win a title to get the monkey off his back.

But being a 40,000-yard quarterback and having won two AFC Championship games is nothing to sneeze at. I think his greatest accomplishment that goes forgotten is coming off the bench and leading New England to the Super Bowl in that AFC Championship Game against Pittsburgh in 2001. It's as if that day never took place, because you never hear anyone talk about it.
In large part, I think it's due to the fact that (1) Brady came back and played like, well, Brady plays and (2) the fact that Bledsoe didn't really have a great game against Pittsburgh. He won but it was not a performance where you say to yourself, wow. I do agree that overall, Bledsoe should get more credit for some of the things he's accomplished in his career. In a perfect world, he would get his just rewards both ways.

Unfortunatly.........
 

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Dale, that game where Bledsoe came off the bench to lead the Pats to the Super Bowl is actually one of my favorite memories about him. Then, he handled Brady starting the big game with nothing but class. He was very supportive and a real team player.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
In large part, I think it's due to the fact that (1) Brady came back and played like, well, Brady plays and (2) the fact that Bledsoe didn't really have a great game against Pittsburgh. He won but it was not a performance where you say to yourself, wow. I do agree that overall, Bledsoe should get more credit for some of the things he's accomplished in his career. In a perfect world, he would get his just rewards both ways.

Unfortunatly.........

Being an NE fan from Boston, I gotta disagree. With the exception of one toss-over-the-shoulder-while-getting-sacked brain-fart, he had a REMARKABLE game. The NE offense was stalled and down a score or 2 when he came in, and he threw 3 or 4 strikes in a row ending in a really nice corner of the end-zone fade. My gang of Brady fan/Bledsoe bashers were jumping up and down with joy. He also had a sweet drive with some unbelievable 3rd down completions to run it out. There was serious thought in NE to having him start the SB. But alas, the rest is history. (And I'd like nothing better to see a Cowboys/Pats superbowl. To be honest I would care who won. There-- I'm exposed. :)
 

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Anyone who followed Bledsoe's career in NE knows there was one thing he indisputably excelled at - comeback victories, particularly in the Carroll years. My recollection is that in the late 90's he had racked up over 20. Anyway, it's what AFC fans knew him for more than anything else.
 

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Brett Favre should be one up on Bledsoe again with 32, since he beat the Lions Sunday night.
 

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Fact is, Drew can throw the ball. The Bottom line is, he suffers from having a history of throwing the wrong pass at the wrong time. I don't think anyone can deny Drew's ability to throw a nice pass although his short passes are not a thing of beauty.

Many say, "If given time to throw the ball Drew will make the pass" and I agree. However, until he shows that he can avoid the rookie type throw at the wrong time will I ask for a sip of the Drew Kool Aid. As I've said before, it is not how many yards you throw for but how many meaningful passes you make.

Drew had a good game this week but just like Eli Manning, he can easily come back next week and stink up the joint like he did last week. Pressure or no pressure, Drew had opportunities to make plays when the pocket did hold up and he either rushed, under or overthrew passes and at the same time, doing the handbone (slapping the ball and shuffling his feet) until the opposing defense dropped him for a sack.

We have yet to connect Drew to "the pass". You know, the pass on the biggest of stages that everyone will remember. He has a chance to have one now. When it matters. With all of the marbles at stake. The ones that make you legendary. If he is able to provide one of those, the media will immediately throw up all of his stats and act as if they knew he was great all along. That's all he needs. Drew has to make plays in order to be given the respect that many of you on this forum feels he deserves.

Despite Drew's fantastic game, I will reserve my judgement until the end of our season.
 

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Martice said:
Despite Drew's fantastic game, I will reserve my judgement until the end of our season.

Hilarious !! :lmao2:

Say you like him or say you don't.

You probably are one of the people who think Peyton Manning is not a good QB because he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.
 

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Like all Cowboy fans I had been fooled by earlier phenons, wannabees, and baseball players who shall remain nameless, Jerah finally got it, and we got a real QB, this guy can just sling it as they say. He should make the Hall of Fame someday, he probably won't but he has given all of us true Cowboy fans some of my greatest memories. You got to admit there's Cowboy games and then theres the rest of the NFL. When you watch a Cowboy game you better go to the bathroom at the break and be quick about it because you don't want to miss any of the game.And never, ever, ever, leave before the end, you might be sorry, one of my friends couldn't watch the last field goal he was so sure they had tanked, man you gotta believe, it's our year, we are going to the playoffs...
 

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Well yknow that's what I want in a quarterback....one with a HUGE chip on his shoulder. And that's what we've got!

Bledsoe is more 'hungry' then ANY qb in the league his age now...possibly in the history of the game. For instance, look at Farve, a year or two older, yet he looks like a seriously OLD man who has run out of steam. From the way he walks to the way he throws to the way he just looks old. You can lay money on it, Farve wishes he had the kind of steam still left in his belly that Bledsoe has. Bledsoes just does not look or act like he's been in the league for 13 years. Yet because of that age and disrespect, he's also got experiance and like I said, a HUGE chip on his shoulder!

If anyone is going to defy the odds, I believe it will be Drew Bled.
 

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WV Cowboy said:
Hilarious !! :lmao2:

Say you like him or say you don't.

You probably are one of the people who think Peyton Manning is not a good QB because he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.
I do not think its that simple to say you like him or you don't. I look at him like a Danny White looked the part had some good stats but could not get over the hump and until I see him perform in the playoffs I reserve judgment. The next big game Peyton wins will be his first I'll take a winner over over a fantasy God anytime Brady>Peyton.
 

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Martice said:
Fact is, Drew can throw the ball. The Bottom line is, he suffers from having a history of throwing the wrong pass at the wrong time. I don't think anyone can deny Drew's ability to throw a nice pass although his short passes are not a thing of beauty.

Many say, "If given time to throw the ball Drew will make the pass" and I agree. However, until he shows that he can avoid the rookie type throw at the wrong time will I ask for a sip of the Drew Kool Aid. As I've said before, it is not how many yards you throw for but how many meaningful passes you make.

Drew had a good game this week but just like Eli Manning, he can easily come back next week and stink up the joint like he did last week. Pressure or no pressure, Drew had opportunities to make plays when the pocket did hold up and he either rushed, under or overthrew passes and at the same time, doing the handbone (slapping the ball and shuffling his feet) until the opposing defense dropped him for a sack.

We have yet to connect Drew to "the pass". You know, the pass on the biggest of stages that everyone will remember. He has a chance to have one now. When it matters. With all of the marbles at stake. The ones that make you legendary. If he is able to provide one of those, the media will immediately throw up all of his stats and act as if they knew he was great all along. That's all he needs. Drew has to make plays in order to be given the respect that many of you on this forum feels he deserves.

Despite Drew's fantastic game, I will reserve my judgement until the end of our season.
I agree with you on this just because you question Drew you do not have to hate him.
 

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The bottom line for a HOF QB is winning. I couldn't find Bledsoe's career W/L record at NFL.com, but his career passer rating is 77.5, and in a 13 year career, he's only thrown more TD's than INT's 7 times, and a couple of those seasons were pedestrian, like 17 TDs to 13 INTs.

He holds a lot of records, but no one is going to confuse him with Unitas, Marino, Elway, Montana, Aikman, etc.
 

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Nobody likes or respects Bledsoe...

Where the hell do you get this nonsense?

I have liked and respected Bledsoe his whole career.

"Nobody" is not a synonym for "Me." There are other people in this world than you.
 

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CooterBrown said:
Interesting stat CBS showed yesterday. Since 1993, only Brett Favre had more game winning 4th quarter drives than Bledsoe. And that was before Bledsoe led the team on the last drive. Now he is tied with Favre with 31 fourth quarter comebacks since 1993.
Who'd uh thunk it? No respect.

What QBs other than Drew and Brett have been playing since 1993? No dissrespect, but many of the QBs in the league haven't been around long enough to have the same number of 4th quarter comeback opportunities. I think only McNair has been around since then and is still a starter.
 

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What QBs other than Drew and Brett have been playing since 1993? No dissrespect, but many of the QBs in the league haven't been around long enough to have the same number of 4th quarter comeback opportunities. I think only McNair has been around since then and is still a starter.

Maybe because QB's who tend to not lead their teams back to wins in the 4th quarter don't start very long in the NFL. The fact that Favre and Bledsoe (and possibly McNair) are the only ones who that have survived that 10 year battle of attrition of NFL QB's does not underlie the point of the statistic, only reinforces it. As is the case for most accumulative stats.
 

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JIGGYFLY said:
I do not think its that simple to say you like him or you don't. I look at him like a Danny White looked the part had some good stats but could not get over the hump and until I see him perform in the playoffs I reserve judgment. The next big game Peyton wins will be his first I'll take a winner over over a fantasy God anytime Brady>Peyton.
Is he ?

Or is he just surrounded by better environment, ... coaching, defense, etc.

OK, let's say Brady > Peyton, I'll give you that one, who else can you put there ?

????? > Peyton

Waiting to see if Manning wins a SB before you consider him a good QB is so funny to me.

And if you haven't seen enough from Bledsoe yet to know whether you approve or not is funny too.

You either think he is good or you don't.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Maybe because QB's who tend to not lead their teams back to wins in the 4th quarter don't start this long in the NFL.

Sure. There are several reasons. One is that Drew is a good QB. I am not questioning if he is good or bad. He is a good QB that has played since 93 til the present. Some other good QBs had careers that crossed 93 and ended before now, like Aikman whose career ended in 2000. Other good QBs started after 93 and are still going such as Manning. That he has 31 4th quarter comebacks is a stat that is impressive to me. That he has the most since 1993 doesn't mean as much.
 
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