Not Finishing

[Dre11]

No doubt he will catch hell until they win a ring, however I don't know many HC who catch hell after a win. Garrett is the HC, the OC, DC and Special Teams coach and all assistant coaches work under Garrett. His responsibility is to have his team ready and focused. If they fail it is his failure, if the coaches fail it is his failure. That is the role all HC take on, it falls to them. But as I mentioned it gets to the point of stupidity and peoples own personal hatred when you slam the HC after wins.

the average Joe Blow know nothing about football. Don't feed into it.

 

[TheHerd]

I'm happy that we won, of course.

We are on a message board, nothing wrong with pointing what can be improved. Everything doesn't have to be sunshine and rainbows. Ever seen Nick Saban after a win??

You would think he lost. Its about improvement.

A lot of great coaches are harder on their team after a win than a loss (unless the loss was largely due to mental mistakes). Keeps everyone sharp but not discouraged.

 

[erod]

In the Giants game, our beloved Cowboys scored one touchdown and four field goals. The obvious negative in that scenario is that our offense is not finishing drives with 6s instead we are getting 3s. This will kill us when we play Green Bay, Seattle and the rest of the NFC East. We need to be more efficient once we get in the red zone and stop being Redball cute. He has always had a penchant for throwing the ball when he gets in the ten yard and in zone. Earth to Redball, we have a message for you. We have the best power back in the NFL. Use him. The fade route in the corner to Dez is not working. Their defenses know they are coming. Try running the ball. Here is another bulletin, Red. We also have the best O Line in the league. What part of that equation do you not get? Red, you have been a glaring impediment in every game we play. You are the worst, in game, coach the Cowboys have had. You need to step back and let smarter play callers run the offense. Please do not ruin this season and our run to the SB with your predilections to being too cute.

Red knows what a paragraph is.

But he doesn't call the plays.

Brilliant.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

True pointing out what things could have been done but to rake him over the coals that is not about constructive criticism that is agenda driven hate. You are right about Saban but then the 1st thing Garrett talked about with the media at post game was there were a lot of areas they need to clean up. They will look at film and see several things that need to be improved. I don't think anyone would say different

Yeah we are on the same wavelength, if we had failed on 3 straight runs then, everyone would've questioned that too.

I do like to read some constructive criticism myself, but pure haters are different. I would rather talk about how we can get even better sometimes, although I'm really proud of how they played that game.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah we are on the same wavelength, if we had failed on 3 straight runs then, everyone would've questioned that too.

I do like to read some constructive criticism myself, but pure haters are different. I would rather talk about how we can get even better sometimes, although I'm really proud of how they played that game.

I don't disagree it is just some of the crap is what you expect to hear from divisional foes fans not your own.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

You are correct but the issue is not new. Red has been doing this for his entire tenure as our coach. He loves to throw the ball inside the ten. I am not saying don't ever throw. I am saying seeing three incompletes in a row several times a year is frustrating.

Can you name a game where Dallas lost a lead in 2016? I'll hang up and listen.

 

[Dre11]

I agree with you, just too many people point out JG doesn't call the plays when someone questions what was called. Thats not true, its on JG also. Its a cop out to say it was the OC's fault, its on JG too.

What play does Garrett call?, do you know what play is audibled by Dak? Do you know the game plan?
So to say JG makes calls and is at fault when they don't work is asinine. Especially when he's not the OC and haven't been for years.

 

[AdamJT13]

You are correct but the issue is not new. Red has been doing this for his entire tenure as our coach. He loves to throw the ball inside the ten.

We had the seventh-highest run percentage inside the 10 last season -- and the second-highest TD rate on plays inside the 10.

 

[ShiningStar]

What play does Garrett call?, do you know what play is audibled by Dak? Do you know the game plan?
So to say JG makes calls and is at fault when they don't work is asinine. Especially when he's not the OC and haven't been for years.

To be fair, JG hasnt been an jc for years either

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

true but as HC if he does not like what OC or DC is doing within a game Garrett has the authority to tell them to change things up. He is also very much involved in putting the game plan in place.

And if their is a radical departure from game plan or the game plan stinks then sure. That is not what happened Sunday night. If anything they only did what is being complained about once.

We hurried to the line and called a fade which is not a bad play and missed by about a foot. Then we called a run pass option where Dak made the right read when the LB came down but missed the throw. Dez was wide open. Then we threw on 3rd and 3 which is not the end of the world.

We ran 71 plays and people want to evaluate the playcalling based on 3 plays in the first quarter. That is less that 5%. It's stupid.

The team played hard and did not miss a beat when the rookie was called on the finish the game. Chido was money. We ran the ball 30 times. We used play action early and often. We ran the ball 8 times, got 4 first downs, and forced the Giants to use 2 timeouts plus the 2 min warning while milking 5:55 off the clock before scoring a FG on our last drive. They got the ball back on a pick to set that up. That is how you finish a game.

Where is the credit for that?

 

[Dre11]

true but as HC if he does not like what OC or DC is doing within a game Garrett has the authority to tell them to change things up. He is also very much involved in putting the game plan in place.

You don't do that in the middle of a drive. In that set of playing calling down on the goal line, it would be idiotic to interject and get in the ear of the OC while he's strategically trying to call plays within a play clock. Now the adjustments are made during halftime, quarter changes, and timeouts.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

What play does Garrett call?, do you know what play is audibled by Dak? Do you know the game plan?
So to say JG makes calls and is at fault when they don't work is asinine. Especially when he's not the OC and haven't been for years.

You might wanna read back, but the point was JG has the ability to override the play call if he wants, its his decision and his job cause he's the head coach. Can't always say its the OC or Dak's fault only, the head coach also has some responsibility. If JG wanted to run on one of those downs, they would've ran.

The end result in that game since we won, it doesn't matter. But if we lost the game over that decision, it would matter alot more.

 

[RS12]

Other teams don't have Snacks Harrison at DT. Fred and Martin struggle with Snacks in the run game more than any other player.

I'm with you Giants defense is one of the best they will face. No huddle finally wore them down.

 

[Doomsday101]

And if their is a radical departure from game plan or the game plan stinks then sure. That is not what happened Sunday night. If anything they only did what is being complained about once.

We hurried to the line and called a fade which is not a bad play and missed by about a foot. Then we called a run pass option where Dak made the right read when the LB came down but missed the throw. Dez was wide open. Then we threw on 3rd and 3 which is not the end of the world.

We ran 71 plays and people want to evaluate the playcalling based on 3 plays in the first quarter. That is less that 5%. It's stupid.

The team played hard and did not miss a beat when the rookie was called on the finish the game. Chido was money. We ran the ball 30 times. We used play action early and often. We ran the ball 8 times, got 4 first downs, and forced the Giants to use 2 timeouts plus the 2 min warning while milking 5:55 off the clock before scoring a FG on our last drive. They got the ball back on a pick to set that up. That is how you finish a game.

Where is the credit for that?

I agree with you. My only point was that as HC if he does not like how things are going he can tell them to change things up. He can tell Linehan let run the ball more or whatever he chooses. As for Sunday Nights game I agree with you and while most would be getting some praise as normal the same people are crying for blood. Dallas won vs a very tough divisional foe and controlled the game from start to finish.

 

[Doomsday101]

You don't do that in the middle of a drive. In that set of playing calling down on the goal line, it would be idiotic to interject and get in the ear of the OC while he's strategically trying to call plays within a play clock. Now the adjustments are made during halftime, quarter changes, and timeouts.

I did not say at what point he can would tell his coordinator to change all I said is as HC he can over ride what they are doing and what he expects.

 

[Tommy]

Don't blame Garrett for offense, he is not OC
Don't blame Garrett for defense, he is not D.C.
Don't blame Garrett for personnel choices, that is Mccray and Stephen
Don't blame Garrett for lack of discipline or accountability, Jerry over rules him

If you find he is not giving a good press conference, feel free to blame him because that is his only job apparently

The team went 13-3 last year with a rookie QB. Right now the prospect for the future of this club is as good or better than any team in the NFL.

Last night we beat our biggest division rival In dominating fashion. It was never close.

Stop crying for a few minutes. You might enjoy it.

 

[Pokes12]

This thread after a quality win against a division opponent that swept us last year is beyond lame. That is all.

You totally miss the point. The thread is not about winning this game. It is about winning other games. So, the question, Sherlock, is can we win against better opponents if we continue to settle for 3 points instead of knocking em in for six. Get it? Probably not. You are a simple person. So let's go over this again. Yes, we won against a division opponent. Rah, rah, rah for us. This opponent was without its best offensive player and sports a gawd awful offensive line. If we play the same way against better opponents who actually have good offensive lines and players who are not hurt and they actually score points will we be able to win with field goals. That is the purpose of the thread. You see, Mr. Simpleton, it is not lame to extrapolate this performance and the lack of touch downs based upon lousy play calling on future games and wonder if we don't need a bit of wake up call. But no, you want us all to bathe in the glow of a game we really played poorly on offense. We had great field position all game and managed one touchdown. That won't get it done, Skippy. Now you get it??

 

[Doomsday101]

You totally miss the point. The thread is not about winning this game. It is about winning other games. So, the question, Sherlock, is can we win against better opponents if we continue to settle for 3 points instead of knocking em in for six. Get it? Probably not. You are a simple person. So let's go over this again. Yes, we won against a division opponent. Rah, rah, rah for us. This opponent was without its best offensive player and sports a gawd awful offensive line. If we play the same way against better opponents who actually have good offensive lines and players who are not hurt and they actually score points will we be able to win with field goals. That is the purpose of the thread. You see, Mr. Simpleton, it is not lame to extrapolate this performance and the lack of touch downs based upon lousy play calling on future games and wonder if we don't need a bit of wake up call. But no, you want us all to bathe in the glow of a game we really played poorly on offense. We had great field position all game and managed one touchdown. That won't get it done, Skippy. Now you get it??

and yet Dallas was 5th last season in redzone scoring but based on this 1 game they will not be able to now? You are taking 1 game and acting as if this is the norm when they have shown different in recent times.

 

[visionary]

Garrett is responsible for all aspect he is the HC and guess what they won. His team was ready and they went out and won the game. He has to be the only HC in the NFL who can win games and catch hell from wanna be but never will be coaches.

Shouldn't Garrett then be held responsible for the team coming out unprepared and losing to GB and for taking the best offensive weapon (EE) off the field in key third downs ?

 

[Doomsday101]

Shouldn't Garrett then be held responsible for the team coming out unprepared and losing to GB and for taking the best offensive weapon (EE) off the field in key third downs ?

Yes he is HC they lose it is on him and they win it is on him. Game against GB Cowboys came out flat and made too many mistakes and forced to go to the air more than normal some would call it making adjustments give the situation you are in and in doing it were able to get things tied in the last min. I tip my hat to Rodgers on making a big play down field to put them into FG range to win it. But to simply answer your question yet it falls on Garrett.